My thesis on why PE can never work Prove me wrong

Hello all, To get this out of the way I’m deffentantly not trying to tell anyone that they are wrong or state that I’m right, I’m just going to make a factual argument based on the high amount of research both theoretical and practical on this topic, and put forward a mini rant on why PE may be considerd a very negitive thing, even if the risk of hurting yourself was non existent.

Firstly, PE is closest to religion in its teaching and practices, it mostly requires dedication and “faith” without providing any real proof beforehand and that’s fine but I will list a few things that argue strongly against PE working that I have come across, and debunking some of the reasons people may be thinking they have made some progress. This pill may be hard to swallow.

- The internal base ligament attached to the head of the penis.
This ligament attached your penor to the inside of your body, not to be confused with the ligaments that pull the penis upwards. It is tied to your urethra and determines how far your flacid penis can stretch, from what I have observed this part of the body can never be changed, and shouldn’t be changed. I believe ligaments can only be stretched around 7% before snapping and revert back to there original configuration. They are nothing like metal (malleable) and are more like A rock (brittle) meaning they will snap before they stretch.

There are many other problems with PE exercises but this one seems to me to be the most problematic.

Now onto people reporting results and lack of

Because its so painful to have a small penor I think any gains to penis length can be attributed to EQ, and mesmerising or even desperation.

I personally can measure my penis in one position (standing) and get around 9 results, 16cm (upright pelvis back) 16.5 (upright netural) 17 (Upright hips forward) and then the same pelvic positions but from the side of the penis and with the penis at a different angle (to the ground vs forward) and I can vary my measurement by around 2cm.
And this is only considering a NBP measurement, more room for error can come from accidentally pushing down on you’re ruler, not measuring from eye level and measuring at different body positions (in a chair) this can add or subtract around 4cm.
Another error can come from desperation or pure will power to see a result, and this ties in with my next point.

PE is not a science but it is 100% a religious cult, not that this is inherently a bad thing.
The steps to proving something real are quite simple, you must first perform a documented experiment, and then that experiment must be able to be replicated. Until this is done it is safe to state that PE does not work, as the massive amount of push back would cause people who did find a way to make it work document and display there information in a clear and concise way.

Most of the “profesonal PE Gods” have no pictures of before and after, and the ones that apparently know everything there is to know can’t accurately measure there penises and take very inaccurate photos, yet spew information on how to correctly measure and perform PE functions.

Anyway OPINION OPINION OPINION I still can’t say for sure it does not work, just as I can’t prove god does not exist, but the evidence is highly against it working. I would absolutely love it if someone could change my mind :)

Just a side note I will add that put the nail in the coffin for me, At once point I offered $1000 to anyone who could give me some information on how to increase my penis length by 0.5 inches and promised them payment the moment I hit that mark, the strangest thing was not a single person took me up on this offer yet I had no restrictions on a time limit or anything, the mods just tell you to buy something or give it to someone or call you a scammer.

Ill keep that offer open here also since I would love to show my appreciation to anyone who can give me some solid help, If anyone can disprove my theory and help me change my situation with real results that I can document and publish, Ill be happy to give you $1000, or even donate it to this site to pay my respects!

Thanks all and peace <3

EDIT: Just one last tidbit, the reason I made this thread instead of just droping it is because unlike religion, PE can be considerd very harmful to the mind.

Unlike religion where you may only find out god is/is not real after you are dead, PE operates under the guise of attracting sad people trying to correct a situation, and when they find out it does not work it only adds more suffering such as my self. Hope can be toxic.

While you’re entitled to your opinion, I suspect that you’re mainly trying to rattle the saber a bit to get people stirred up Only a couple of paragraphs into your piece, you say that there is no proof. What about the highly documented proof—pictures, detailed logs, etc.—that many diehard members have provided here over the years?

I 100% don’t want to stir up anything, the only reason I really said that is because I myself have tested it in a way and have found what others have shown me is unrepeatable.

And I did talk about that, all of the photos I have hunted down (Really had to hunt) are inaccurate and poorly shot, all of the photos I have been taking were easy and accurate and I’m not sure why experts take such bad photos when trying to provide proof.

Sorry if I sound rude, I do want to believe it works but I can’t find any reason to.

Perhaps you’re blind then. Certainly explains the obsession with religion and believe.

If you pretending not to find any proof on this or several other forums, you’re just trying to stir things up.

Far out lads I wish you guys would have told me years ago that PE doesn’t work. Oh well thats 5 years I will never get back.

I agree with you that some, (or maybe even most) of the photos demonstrating before and after measurement have some accuracy issues, and the ones that look accurate could well be Photoshop… I don’t know. So personally, I take before and after photos with a grain of salt.

I also don’t live in a fantasyland, and just because some strangers on an internet forum say that their penises have grown substantially doesn’t convince me either. As they say, “the proof is in the pudding”.

So, I’ve given it ago… and guess what: I’ve gained 0.3” in girth and 0.7” in length. But you say, “Is your measuring technique accurate”.

I’m very consistent and some what “anal” in the amount of time and effort I put into getting good measurements. Always 24 hours (that’s not 23 or 25 hours) after my last PE session, Standing position, Penis parallel to the ground, Same measuring device, Bone pressed, Ruler pressed 0.25” above the penis and 0.25” to the right of centre, looking straight down over the tip of the penis.

I always record the maximum measurement, to reduce doubt if I measure an increase the next time. Girth measurement is done with the same accuracy. I don’t bother with flaccid, as I can never get an accurate measurement.

As I stated when I began PEing, I will not be posting any photos of my penis on the internet, as: 1) I would prefer not to have my penis on the internet. 2) It wouldn’t prove anything, as I would not be able to duplicate the accuracy or maintain a maximum erection while holding a camera.

Now, I really couldn’t give a rats ass if you (or anyone for that fact) believes me or not… I do this for me and no one else, but if I can help people along the way on my journey, I’m more than happy.

It is not for me or anyone else to prove to you that PE works.

Welcome back Wizard…. long time no see. :)

We all have right to our personal opinion, It doesn’t mean it is right or wrong, but it is the way how someone thinks. This is what I think, I think you failed in your mission to achieve some goals in penis enlargment, You would like to increase your penis length for the 0.5 cm for example, you gave it a try, you couldn’t accomplish your mission and now you need somebody to tell you and confirm you that PE doesn’t work, you need to hear that so you could move on. Why do you need to hear it ? Because there is still hope in you and you truly want to believe it IS WORKING, but since you had your failed attempts it is hard for you to focus on achieving your goals, it is easier to go with the line of less resistance and just to say yourself this PE is bullshit, although you want to believe and want to make your dreams come true. You cannot move on if there are two crossed-thoughts fighting inside your mind and you cannot choose who to trust. Now you need confirmation if PE works or does not work.

If any of this makes sense ( this is just my opinion, I don’t want to offend you by any means, just speaking my mind ) than you should give yourself another try with PE, clear your mind of negative thoughts, make your mindset for a new, fresh approach to PE, do not worry to much about gains, try to trust the process and enjoy your workouts, do not think about yesterday, do not think about tomorrow, focus on your workouts in this moment, do every single stroke with love and without doubts. This is not an easy task, I have to work on this issue myself, but I am doing fine, every day better and better.

Our mind is such a powerful weapon, stronger than science and stronger than anything in the world, we need to learn how to adjust it right.

If I am wrong, I am sorry for expressing my thoughts this way, I truly wish you to find your piece.

Hey man…. I was on your side until I gave it an honest and well educated try. Go ahead and write this thesis if you like wasting your time on a paper that is false. Most people on this site know the truth because we are living it. Doesn’t mater what your paper says.

Look man, increasing your size through excercise works. It takes a very long time. Like 2-3 years to get dramatic and meatballs increases. It also takes skill (learning to effect change without injuring yourself). This gives your practice longevity. So…

Skill and patience.

Now back to sdp with you.

Go to my “qui ne tente rien” thread, there’s a gif for bpfsl in the first post. Taken at the end of my 3rd routine, to make sure I was at my full initial capacity. And at the end, my current bpfsl (picture). Before 15.2cm now 17.5cm. It’s hard to reproduce the exact same pic angle but you can see it’s the same posture, same ruler, same person, pressing hard at the same spot etc. Can’t cheat 2+cm that way.

Now if you really want to give me $1000 so bad, show me how you want the before/after pics/videos to be done with your own penis and I’ll gladly take that money as soon as I gain 0.5”.

PE is not as difficult as proving another person’s consciousness but it is next to that task. Unless you have another person in your life who could directly experience any growth of your member, I can’t see how else you could prove growth in an emperically scientific sort of way to another being.

So I think for most it comes down to proving it to yourself and whether or not you have the drive to actually carry out the sort of discipline, consistency, and patience it requires to produce a positive result. And at that point it becomes a question of your own self honesty and personal integrity as to whether you have given PE a fair shake before giving the thumbs up or thumbs down on it for YOU personally, never mind speaking for someone else. Personally I’ve been motivated by some of my own life experiences that have personally proven to myself that the scientific narrative doesn’t always pan out as being true.

Oh, and by the way religion for the most part has killed way, way, waaaaaay more people than PE ever will. : P

As a future biometrist - Challenge accepted.

The proof it works for at least one person I carry in my pants everyday. I was skeptical until I saw my first undeniable half inch of growth. There’s nothing that has been or ever will be written that can prove to me it doesn’t work. I can say for at least one man it worked beautifully.

Pattern recognition skills CAN be sharpened and will take you far.