No gains, looking for advice

After not gaining for a very long time, I decided to start this thread to get some advice.

PE History: For my first year of PE I did the newbie routine on and off and maybe gained .25”. I was very inconsistent most of the time, but in that year I did have a good 3 months of dedication with the newbie routine and didn’t gain anything so I took a 2 month break.

I started back up at the beginning of December of 08’ with the newbie routine again. After about a month and a week of doing the newbie routine at 2/1 or 3/1 consistency, I started incorporating some V and A stretches. For the past few weeks I’ve upped my routine to 7 mins warm up, 15-20 mins stretching (9 way stretches with a few A and V stretches, and 150-200 jelqs, then 5 mins warm down.

I didn’t gain anything from those routines so I changed the stretching part of my routine to SD, SD to the left/right, Left/Right, and JAI stretches for SU, and Straight Up to the Left/Right (for JAI 3x15 sets). Been doing that for about a week and haven’t seen any difference in measurement.

If anyone has some advice on what I could do to spark some length gain please let me know. BTW length is my focus for now.

Thanks

Increase your warm up to 15-20 minutes. Keep your erection around 30-50% and no more than that. Use a lite grip, none of that tight shit works all that well but to cause an injury. Slow the jelq speed down to around 5 seconds per stroke. Are you kegeling? Are you having regular masturbation to keep up EQ?

Thank you KP,

Ill up my warm ups to 20 mins - Do you think an IR lamp would be better than the warm wash cloth method? I have an IR lamp, but it just does not feel it’s warming my penis up good enough.

I’ve been jelqing around 30-50% already, but ill try them slower now.

I only kegel sometimes post workout, maybe once a week, not much. I’m young so EQ is not an issue for me at the moment.

Any other input would be appreciated.

Hey, I have gained about 1.25 BPEL I have this list posted in my Progress log but here it is.

Things that I believe contributed to my length gains:

1. My first stretching routine was straight out up down left right 30 seconds each 2 sets.

2.The next addition which I think helps a lot is doing a “joystick stretch” where I go straight out then cover the other eight directions in an order that will allow the ligs of the previous stretch to rest while continuing to stretch the next set. An example of how to do this is 1. straight out 2. up 3. down left 4. right 5. up left 6. down 7. up right 8. left 9. down right. If you know chess you basically move the stretch like a knight. During this stretch you always keep your penis fully stretched out, never release. I can elaborate more if necessary. I started with 8 second holds then after a few weeks went to 10. Again two sets following the 30 second holds.

3. I added JAI stretches. For the first couple months I only did straight out for 2 on 2 off for a minute. I would do these following my 30 second hold stretches.

4. At the same time I added V-stretches. For a month After doing 2 sets through of the other 3 I would do 1 set of V stretches at middle bottom top, I started with 20 second holds and worked up over the month to 30. Then I would do middle top bottom of A-stretches. After a month I stopped doing top and bottom of the A stretches.

5. After about two months of doing that routine I started looking around for new stuff. That is when I found the Bennett8 12-point V stretches. If I am right you can find the exact time somewhere around page 3 or 4 when I started doing these. When I first started I stopped the normal V/A stretches until about a month ago. Sometimes I would change it up and do the V/A stretches instead, maybe once every 2 weeks.

6. The past few months I did not get much stretching in but when I did I added up left and up right for 30 second holds. I also added more JAI stretches doing up as well as straight out. Same 1 minute formula right after straight out. Then I would do either the V/A stretches or the 12-points. After that I would do the joystick stretch and start over. I would do the same thing over again but doing the other v-stretch style I had not done before.

7. Recently I started doing the second set of both V-stretches as I had mentioned, but I also have begun changing it up. The first set (of all exercises) I do in a particular order: 30 second holds, JAI, V/A, 12-point, Joystick. Then I wash my hair and let the shower keep going. I forgot to mention I do all stretching in a hot shower. After resting a bit I then do the first 4 types of stretch in any order other than the first set’s order. But I always leave joystick for last.

8. When I jelqed the first few months I exclusively jelqed downwards, at varying erection levels, but always down. Now(for the past month) I jelq down for a while then out for a while then up for a while and keep changing it up every so often because as I understand down=length up=girth. I have pretty much always jelqed at high erection levels. The 2 months I made my biggest gain almost .625 I jelqed downwards at high levels about 80-90%. Previous to this I jelqed standing in the shower downwards at lower erection levels.

9. Currently I hope stretching 5 days a week is going to get me to my length goals, also having increased my total stretch time I believe will help. My weekly stretching time is probably around 3 times what it used to be.

10. I believe the Sadsak Head girth mod (as mentioned in Memento’s momentous gain routine thread) is good for not just the girth but overall size of the glans. I view the head like a balloon so the more blood in it the wider/longer it gets. This may get you a little bit extra length after some time due to overall glans size increase.

11. I also lost a lot of fat since march when I started down about 25 or so from 205. I also have dropped about 5 or so waist sizes which made my NBPEL gains near 1.5 while my BPEL gains are just over an inch or so.

If you are interested that is page 7 of my progress log, there are some explanations there, and on the next page is the same sort of list with a girth focus. Best of luck!

Thanks Clemski, I’m going to incorporate some of the things you mentioned into my routine and hopefully that will get me growing.