Why majority of people consider PE to be fake

Maybe, because size really doesn’t matter at all, most 99% will satisfy women. What really does matter is penile health and sex quality, intensity and stamina, size comes along just as a bonus.

Maybe just a wrong starting to a conversation, maybe if we don’t talk about getting bigger would be easier to spread the word.

I believe that penis size wasn`t a real concern before internet. Pornography has been changing mankind life style in all aspects. We are becoming so used to body exposition that what was considered porn for our fathers is just sexy for the newer generations.

Said that, I think that companies willing to put a good money on research for PE are not yet engaged to invest in this area because there are not much buyers. As porn gets into our minds, we all want that slice of heaven and fantasy sold by porn… more men looking for PE solutions, more buyers and more the companies will be willing to invest.

When it comes to science, we must not think that science walks alone by itself. All the researches to cure cancer, viruses, plastic surgery, everything else from health to aesthetics comes from the human necessity. If porn keeps increasing, this “necessity” will become more and more explicit, given the industry a real big market to sell. But this is something that may never happen, because women don`t crave for big cocks like we do (ok, bigger is better, but try to see in the other direction. We feel pleasure with a girl that is not THAT hot. Super hot girlfriend is better, but we don`t break up with the not so hot because of that… It doesn’t affect the feelings and we still feel pleasure and fun). Also, the effort to PE and the risks may be too high to create a product that will convince hundred millions of men to buy. Specially if the research costs millions of dollars but result is a bunch of exercises that you can do alone at home without spend a single dollar.

On the urologists and medics side, they learn what was already researched. If the research doesn`t exist, they just say that there are no scientific proof.

I think the majority of people believes in “official’ information. In this case, words from medics.

In my opinion majority of people aren’t ready to do something. Just it. Any person who is going to google about sizes can see verified by scientist method - extender. Despite it’s verified, majority of people won’t do anything, but complain.

There are many motives but they all boil down to one thing : lack of intellectual health. The fear of failure and humiliation, a short-sighted understanding of what should be an experimental protocol in this case, short sighted analysis of the wrong practice, the dishonesty to admit it works for being involved in a job that wouldn’t benefit from it, in the end it’s all the same. Birds of a feather flock together. People follow their own kin. An urologist is too dumb to investigate properly and the public is too dumb to question this expert? Same people, they belong to the same boat. Live your life, enjoy your own cruise.

I’m sure many that peruse these threads know about Epigenetics and how what happens to us can affect the genes we pass down.

I just had a thought about this and any gains with PE and if they could actually affect a change in how your male progeny’s genes get expressed?

Any thoughts?

Pioneers by definition are a squint amount of the general populace. Most people that have made it this far are the ones that tend the most to think outside of societies confines.

Beautiful.

The majority of people consider PE to be fake because the successful dick gainers are a small persentage.
For example… only the 3% of men are doing PE and from them only the 1% is gaining.

The reasons for so little successful gainers persentage are:
1) Lack of dinsipline to stay in the program long enough and be consistent
2) They never found what worked for them…. they just tried 1 or 2 methods(probably with wrong technique) and because they didn t work , they stopped… instead of trying different things.

So the true gainers are so little on the planet that PE can not be spread out as a proven thing.

It depends on how deep it runs in our blood…. Epigenetics doesn’t stop at expressing different alleles. Changing one’s behavior favors accidental gene duplication as well, leading to whole new genetic sequences fiting better this behavior. Given enough time, it takes over in a feedback loop. Humans do too little efforts to improve individually, as a result they take the other route, die quickly so the opportunity for a durable and positive change is collective, through sexual reproduction. It also skews scientific research, people aren’t ready to take responsibility for their senescence, so their investigations reflect the lack of energy they can put into improving themselves. A few decades ago the consensus was still that adult brains wouldn’t grow new cells.. that’s how terrified we are to take responsibility for our own failures.

This has gone on an interesting tangent that probably doesn’t belong on this thread, but let’s take it back to simply: if you get a bigger unit do PE before having male children, could that lead to a bigger “natural” unit for them?

Always wish for the best for our kids.

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Because they just don’t know, It’s all about knowledge. :)

It could, but we lack understanding to know when it will.

There is not a man alive who has no interest in his dick, how he uses it and how big it is and whether the size is enough.

So there has been a big industry grown up, particularly since the internet. You can now access the information, do the exercises, buy the equipment, privately.

The ancient Chinese (Qi gong) and Indians (Karma sutra) knew all about the importance of sex and how to do it well.

It’s not ineffective and it’s not shameful or futile to want a bigger dick (and/or balls) any more than wanting a good looking physique. In fact I think the motivation is th same in each case.

And forget all the bullshit about PE not working. This site and many other are clear evidence that the practice of PE, correctly and patiently done, will get you a bigger and better dick.

Well, I’ve had all my kids. So whatever I had then will have to suffice. Although I am told both sides of my family tend to be big, so that’s a plus.

I have been edging in plus size condoms last few months: trying to fill successive sizes. Last night I managed to fill up a Durex XXL, they are in the 9 inch range. I guess that makes around 9 my current upper limit.

I’m happy where pumping, edging, and static extending has gotten me so far.

My next addition will be IR heating.

I’m very excited!

:)

I’m starting to agree with others that PE is fake.

I’ve read a lot of the PE is fake threads and everyone seems to attack the initial person who thinks its fake.

I’ve looked at a lot of the pictures of so called gainers tracking thread and what I noticed is a lot of the pictures are taken after pumping or clamping.

I have done PE for 17/18 years. The only thing I noticed is better EQ which accounts fir a quarter length. So its safe to say that the quarter difference is really arousal level. I have tried several methods pumping, clamping, extending, jelquing, pills, patches, etc etc for months at a time.

When I pm people they can never give you any real advice just broad responses but yet when reading their post they come off as a so called expert with great gains.

When I first started reading forums they were small and didnt have any advertisements for pumps, or other devices. But as they grew I have noticed there are devices and other items for promotion. Also, I noticed there are males on here who are attracted to males which may explain why they are on here. The owner of the sites that have ADS get paid for advertising.

I havent had any gains, I’ve spoke to males who are in the exotic industry that use pumps and c-rings for years and they never gained.

I am average size at 7, have been told that I am average size by women and know that myself. So no its not exaggerated. I started PE out of curiousity and am fine with my size, I just figure that being bigger mainly girth would make my job easier pleasing women.

Side story In fact when in college my friend told us he tried it pills out of curiousity and his girlfriend has already confirmed he is well endowed, I say that to say no matter a guys size some have would like to gain more or curious.

I’m not here for to try to have someone convince me that it works and blah blah blah because I’ve tried it for years and many people have. For the people that is hasnt work for they probably don’t come on the forums which may explain why there usually isnt a rebuttal (waste of time arguing online). There may be the anomaly where some people gained but the majority of people don’t gain!

If they did money hungry businesses would be selling the exercises and other stuff (which by the way they did in the past because I paid for the info, then I found the free sites). Not only that people men would be gaining. An example of a tried and true method is breast implants, they work and the proof is the amount of women getting it done.

Also, for the guys in here always speaking about pornstars are not big sorry to tell you they are. Yes, camera angles are used to make some if them appear even bigger but they are naturally big. Hence why they arent that many. Also, read porn women they tell you some of the tricks that are done, and some of the men had surgery.