Why they keep lying to me?

This is an example of laying the bar very very low. You have to compete with local men. For example the average length here is 8 inch BP and I have a 7 inch BP and the world average is 4 inch. Do you think girls wouldnt call me small or smaller then other men? Thats why the average length in your country where you live is important not the world average why would I compete with black men in congo or asian men in japan. I only meet dutch girls who had dutch dicks before or people who live in the Netherland 75% is 100% dutch 25% is foreign blood.

Youre 100% right about psychologists they just say what you want to hear and listen to you nothing more. I need someone who can tell me the truth. Yes youre dick is fine 99% of the women will enjoy having sex with you,

Yes youre smaller in height then average and most girls only care about you being taller then her nothing more.

I can tell you 1 thing living in the Netherland isnt a fairy tale the average height is 180cm the largest in the world being 172cm is not a prize and luckily 25% is foreign blood and most of them are almost as tall or shorter then me.
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Now, you’re the one lying. I see a lot of lies in this one. Are dutch really 8 inches average?? Are they aliens?? Only accurated is height, but guess what, there are hundreds of short men with taller women even Daniel Radcliff.

This is true, hot women who rate dicks rather a fat boy with small penis but big wallet.

Now, you’re the one lying. I see a lot of lies in this one. Are dutch really 8 inches average?? Are they aliens?? Only accurated is height, but guess what, there are hundreds of short men with taller women even Daniel Radcliff.
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You have to read or youre probably misunderstand me so apologize if you dont understand me again: I said for example 8 inches. I gave an example so its not like im saying the real average is 8 inches here in the Netherlands.

What I mean is that you have to compete with your country. If the worlds average is 15cm BP but the average in the Netherlands is 16cm BP I have to make sure to be above 16cm BP to be called ‘above average’. If my future girlfriend here only had average dutch dicks and I say Im above average shes expecting a dick bigger then 16cm not bigger then the worlds average. She didnt fuck with Brazilian, Chinese and German boys unless she is a whore.

Thats what I meant with compete with local people and friends. Average here is much bigger then the worlds average Im 100% sure of that. Luckily 25% here is foreign blood so that will lower the average for sure.

What youre saying about height is complete bullshit. You just disproved your own replies.

Youre saying their are many men who have a taller girlfriend and women who rate dick size want rich men. I know that type of women and their are many of them in this world. Money and status is everything and you give an example of Harry fucking Potter one of the most successful actors and rich/famous men in the world of course he can get almost every girl in the universe. For me its almost impossible to get a girl who is taller then me, because they think that is very important, luckily im taller then 90% of the girls here so I dont mind.

I know that the most important thing is to not be very small (im not my brother is) and that youre taller then your girlfriend. But you give examples of people who are rich and famous thats not what the world is like for normal people like us.

But your first reply is probably right and accurate and I have to understand that more.

Why dont you look at papers online of recorded averages instead of just assuming things.

Also if you really want to get your head in spin, consider this. Most likely ANY girl you meet that has slept with other men will have a selection bias ANYWAYS. Think for a moment how upset you are about your size, and think about ALL the dudes who are average or below average. How many of them do you think are out at the club picking up women and dicking them down? Now think about ALL the dudes who are above average, how many of those guys are out there picking up chicks? Its a hell of a lot more ill tell you that. So if you really want to be scared just consider that any chick you meet thats slept with atleast a few other men, will most likely already have a skewed perception of what average is. Regardless of what gets published online.

Now the real question is, are you going to keep having panick attacks about women banging other dudes, and how you stack up? Because if youre so worried about it, you will never actually have that future girlfriend or future wife. All because you will be to concerened with the dicks she had in her mouth before she met you. No better way to turn a girl away then to be obsessed with every cock shes seen before she met your sorry ass. You need to learn to get over it, and learn how to dick down properly. Chicks cant even count inches or cm properly, they sure as hell can count orgasms though.

Youre right for sure, but what makes you think I dont have a good reason im not dating girls right now? Trust me I have good reasons, and my dick size isnt one of them. I only share my insecurities and PE problems not the ones that dont relate to PE.

And is a bit hypocrite to say im addicted with other dicks because we are all here to make our cocks bigger and call ourselves above average or large.

Will it matter? What you want to hear or the reality? What if both are the same? Congruent? What if they are not? What if you are molding the way you see the world by other people’s eyes? What if you are taking other people’s opinions on this matter so serious that you did not even had the time yet of empiric knowledge to have an opinion on this? What if you have not experienced everything yet? What if you are so focused in the women’s experience on your penis that you forgot that sex is not only penetration?

You are blessed to be a man with a natural 6.8 inches and even blessed to be born in a time that we men gather in this virtual forum to share experience and knowledge in a way that you discovered and proved that you are capable of extending the limits of your penis size and you are, still, feeling “down”, unbeliever in so many ways. The problem is your mind, because it will make you feel the way you do, your emotions and your behavior. Real professional help is a proccess, is not in a month you will resolve everything in your life, actually going to a therapy is more about knowing thyself than receiving answers.

I think that you should go out and live.

C3ifador, thanks for replying but this comment is very false:

—You are blessed to be a man with a natural 6.8 inches and even blessed to be born in a time that we men gather in this virtual forum to share experience and knowledge in a way that you discovered and proved that you are capable of extending the limits of your penis size and you are, still, feeling “down”, unbeliever in so many ways.—

I dont blame you for sure but youre expecting im just a normal kid.
First of all I gained almost 2cm BP in 1 year of hard work and no skip days. I was not born with a above average penis.
Second, the reason im feeling down is for 1% my penis length. Yes Im still concerned about my size even I gained so much but like I said 1%. Im a bit more concerned about every PE method not working right now maybe 19%.

For the other 80% its all different things. I never talked about this on the forum but I was diagnosed with a pretty serious condition which makes my life miserable and very hard to stay awake and alive. My life before I got symptoms was more fun and I didnt have these insecurities they just came. Its hard to say but I think my insecurities are based on this condition.

So its not like Im a normal man of 21 years old with insecurities about his dick who had a below average penis and now a above average penis. Its more then that for sure.

De nada meu parceiro. What exactly is false?

Ok, you are not worried about your dick size, hmm ok, so you opened this thread here Why they keep lying to me? you talked about your dick, dick sizes, the man you want to be in the future, “proffesionals”, discourse. You have not said a word about this condition you have.
You said this in this post Berghuis374 - Why they keep lying to me? “Youre missing the point in my thread I mean why they keep lying to me the thread isnt: help my dick cant grow. I grew almost 1 inch to my goal but now I cant PE due issues in my head so thats the frustrating part. But I hope and think 7 inch BP (maybe even more) is called a bonus point and a above average dick”. I completely understood what you meant that’s why my post c3ifador - Why they keep lying to me? was about experience, I brought you a vision, a discourse to open your eyes, for you to reflect your thoughts, maybe you are just focusing your thought into the wrong direction, I used a positive view, bro you are blessed to be alive, you can always, always change the direction of your life, for that in my opinion creativity is needed, only you have this power, nobody is gonna do it for you. I had depression for 16 to 24, almost 8 years, I can say that I don’t have depression anymore, I am 24 today, but the years of depression left me with some problems, some behaviors I had when I had cycles of depressive state continues till this day, everyday I am trying to stop these little things that makes my routine look alike those I had before, I still have emotional problems, apathetic, of getting in the mood of the situation, to get euphoric, to get sad, to get happy, to get satisfied. For me to access those emotional states are not easy nor genuine, I am for years faking it, and it is true that by faking it, I am able to feel it inside, though slowly, but after some time I can be in that emotional state.
There is a book by Tony Robbins called “Unlimited Power”, it was the best thing for me in the last year, it opened my mind, that I already thought I was open minded. Find this book in your mother language and give it a chance.
Abraço,
c3ifador.

Are you comfortable with sharing your condition with us? Perhaps we can help you out with that as well.

Im not saying you do or dont have good reason to date women right now. I was mearly suggesting that you can make dating, and the idea of “sizing up” to your future partner(s) expectations or previous encounters a bigger issue mentally (in your own head) than it really is. That mentality in any relationship whether it be a one night stand, or a long term thing will affect things negitilvly in every way. There are men, with out a shadow of a doubt who are by all standards “above average” and focus so deeply on how they “compare” to their partners other experiences that it rots the relationship away.

If there are other reasons you dont date fine. If your size is not one of them fine. However, this thread has all the signs of someone who does let size impact dating, or if you keep heading down this path.. it will.

As for being hypocritical, theres a difference between being obsessed with how you “compare”, and being concerned with what your partner thinks to the point it shatters any confidence. And, using this site as a refrence for PE as a method of self fulfilment. For me, its no different then how I use fitness/body building forums. To find things i can incorperate into my own routines. Your same post on a body building forum would be “Guys i can bench 185lbs, how would a girl ever love me when there are guys who can easily bench 315lbs. I will never compare to the stregth and size women truly want”. Do you see the difference?

You got a good point I agree. But I know myself better then anyone Im very stubborn (If I translated this correctly). The positive side is Inknow im stubborn but the negative side this effects my way of listening to people. I know youre right but deep down inside me Im still concerned and not feeling OK. That is my problem I always have to know 100% sure I dont have to worry about something before I can go on with my life. Sadly those things became so much I cant handle it anymore.

Its okay to not be okay. Its fine to be concerned, or worried, have fears and anxieties. About anything, not just this topic. You just need to learn to seperate yourself from them. Understand that if you let those things overwhelm you internally they will negetivly impact you they will manifest themselves and effect you externally as well.

The only point I was trying to get accross is that you can shift your perception of “average” and what that means, whether its the “average” across the globe, within your country, within your friend group, or the “average” your future partners may precieve. You can make it feel bleak and hopeless. Or you can understand that ultimately has no bearing on anything asides from yourself and what you offer.

You can seperate PE from the need to constantly compare yourself to others, and be some arbitarry size that you feel is “enough” in the eyes of others. With using it as a tool that allows you to be your “best” self. Much like someone who eats properly and goes to the gym, doesnt need to do it to be an olympic athlete. They simply do it because it bring them personal satisfaction to be fit and healthy.

Yeah I probably need professional help for this and my other mental problems which started with being diagnosed with a disease that caused my whole life to change within a second. Comparing to others is what I did since I was a kid. Its also healthy and can give you energy and motivation. Now that I know and Im gonna reach at least 2cm above the average length here in the Netherlands is giving me a good feeling and motivation to continue. But its not healthy that I still think im not big enough or that I could be bigger are the things that keep me awake.

For example if I reach my ultimate goal of 7 inch im 100% above average in the Netherlands. But I know I have the tools and knowledge to grow even further. I know im very lucky I came across this site because literally no person here in my hometown (living 1 million people) knew about PE being legit. Not even 1 urologist in the whole Netherlands (is what my doctor said). So being blessed with that knowledge I feel like I NEED to grow further in length because the bigger you are the more alpha male I could be. Its wrong Im thinking like this but it keeps spinning in my head I have to grow my penis more so I can compensate with the attributes I dont have: being extremely handsome, tall or very popular.

Funny, I don’t have any of those attributes either…

“Handsome” is a slippery concept. It varies by time, country, and culture, and males and females can have vastly different opinions of the same face. And the ratings may change a lot depending if they’re looking at a still photograph or a video clip.

In most cases, what they are reacting to seems to be self-confidence, focus, and assertiveness. You can’t do much about your physical face without the help of a plastic surgeon… but what you *do* with your face is more important than its actual shape.

There are many “self help” books (at least in English) that can help you with that. Most of what they have is cheerleader bullshit, but you can adopt bits that sound useful to you.

“Tall”… you’re hosed there, beyond shoe lifts and posture. But posture is related to assertiveness; if you stand straight, people will perceive you as “tall”, even if you’re shorter than they are. Once people make a first impression, it usually stays unless there’s some specific reason for them to reconsider it.

“Popular” can be very complex. What *kind* of popular do you want? Share money and drugs lavishly and you’ll be one kind of popular; being welcome at social gatherings is a different kind of popular. Those self-help books can help you with that, but most of them come down to paying attention to other people even when you’re not interested in them. Most people crave attention. You just have to learn the differences between “this person is interesting because he’s listenting to me”, “I think he wants to go to bed with me”, and “whoa, creepy stalker dude!”

That “first impressions” thing is the downside there. People you know *already* see you in a certain way, and again, they’re unlikely to change. And a big part of that is how they think *other* people see you; most people obey a complex (and usually unrecognized) social pecking order, and being too friendly with someone the group has rated low on the pecking order will reduce their own status. It’s stupid and it sucks, but in the end, the only way to break out of that trap is to get new friends and acquaintances who can form their opinions of you without being influenced by your current group. You don’t have to leave town or abandon all the people you already know, but you’ll have to keep “old” and “new” separate.

And in the end, a lot of it comes down to: “Who are you?” and “Who do you want to be?”

Simple, work hard for your goals, study, get informed, do the right thing! Try not to focus on your negative thoughts (yes I know how difficult that is), but try, if you fill your days with chores and routines it helps to fill your mind too. Yes, invest in PE, go to the gym and try to provide yourself with pleasant moments, again, do not emphasize negative moments and thoughts!