8" x 6" and not happy??

To all of you guys and especially TenInchGoal-here is my TRUE STORY!(really!)

I am 26 and till last year my unit was 12 cm EL(which is 4,8” EL). Till that time I had many girls and what is funny, through all that time I was sure that my dick was ‘average’! Really! I was not aware that so many people have much bigger dicks than me. I was thinking to myself that I have “average” dick while dicks that can be seen on porno movies are huge but rare among “normal people”. I have never had any problems with girls! I have never been told by any girl that my unit was small.I can not tell that I was “sex master” but many girls had orgasm with me and many of them liked me a lot. They never told me anything about my dick!

Now when I look at this I believe that due to my lack of knowledge about average penis size I was confident enough to be successful with woman. I can not tell what would happen in my life if I knew all the time about how small my dick was.Anyway-my point if that it is not the penis that shows how masculine we are. “It’s all in your mind” as they say. I do not want to say that size of penis does not matter. Of course it does! But it is only one of many factors. If you can not feel as ‘real man’ it means that there is something wrong with your mind-not the dick. If you think this way dear “PE’r” it means that your masculinity level depends on opinion of others-which is not true. Masculinity comes from the inside.I do not care if guys under the shower have longer flaccid than me or not.

Thanks to PE I am hitting now 6” EL. I want to have around 7”.maybe 8”- but only because I have wonderful girl now and that stupid awareness that “there are bigger dicks”. In my opinion if you think that ‘9” is any more better than 8” ’ you have serious problem. Because it is “never-ending story”.later you will want 10”.then 11”.”.”.”. I want bigger penis for me and my girl-not for other males. My masculinity does not come from “putting down” other men with size of my big dick. I do not need acceptance of any other man to feel “real man”. If any of you needs acceptance of others it means that you will never be “real man” because all the time you will have to prove to yourself that ‘you are real man’.

One more thing to all “the bigger the better”-do you think guys that if Pamela Anderson had bigger breast she would be ‘better’ than she is now? Do you think that if she just had breast like Dolly Parton she would be better than she is now? Do you think Dolly Parton would be ‘better’ if she had breast of Lola Ferrari? So why do you think we can be better with 9” than with 8” or 7”? :) I tell you-if it was all ONLY about our dicks our girls would buy huge dildos and make sex to it allowing our men species to become extinct ! To some reason they prefer men with all their ‘small dicks’ than 9” fat dildos ! ;)

Cheers

How much of this do you want to spend conversing on the topic of dickpulling?

Ha ha ha! :) You do not know women apparently-they can tell us everything to ‘beat us’ if they want. Sorry for asking you about this but is it possible that you really lack confidence Titleist? It is well known psychology pattern that when woman see you are ‘weak’ she will cheat on you and ‘bust your balls’ all the time. I had a friend who had really weak psychology and had really ‘strong’ girl. When she noticed that he was weak she started to ‘beat him’ as she was stronger and proffered ‘tough guys’. She was also cheating. He was my friend so it was hard for me to tell him where the problem was.

So, who did the measuring…?

True. There`s more to having a big dick than having a big dick.

Nope, she had ample reason to lie, in order to justify to herself that she was getting something that you couldn’t offer (to motivate her behaviour, while in reality she was just a person with a weak sense of self-worth that needed to have reinforcement from others as well) and likely to justify to you that she had to go get something outside of your relationship. Possibly to humble you, to transform your righteous disappointment in her to disappointment in yourself. In short, something to turn the focus on you, not her.

Sorry-of course: she was stronger and preferred ‘tough guys’ (not ‘proffered’)

Sure she would, if the reason for the affairs was based on your lack of self-esteem.

From the woman’s perspective, it’s easier for her to say “I fucked him because he has a bigger dick”, rather than “I fucked him because I think he's much more of a man than you, you whining pussy”.

I’m not trying to making light of your situation, T, but the phrase “another affair”, and the fact that you went into a tailspin after all of this speaks volumes. If she knows that you are insecure in this area, she’s going to go after it, because to her, the fact that you worry about your large sized cock being too small is just another prime example of your ridiculous (to her) insecurity.

GM

GM, disi, MGUS

The insecurity in my size and performance came after the revelation and not prior. There was no whinning or lack of self esteem either. The stated reason she cheated is because I never spent any time with her; which is an very accurate.

Certainly I can choose to take her statement at face value or not. There were no measurements taken, so there’s no tangible proof. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve thought about the fact that she was simply pouring the salt on an open wound. I can see that being more likely than anything else.

That chapter of my life is gone. I’m finding that the self improvement part of PE is great. I’ve come to realize that I’m not small. I first came here to seek a cure for premature ejaculation. While here I found out that PE is a reality. I thought, heck it’s not going to hurt to improve every area.

The knowlege that I’m above average isn’t something that I feel can be easily translated into self-esteem. I have acquired a greater self esteem from the brotherhood here and my current relationship. If I never gain another .25” that would be okay. I’ve learned greater staying power and that’s really enough at the end of the day.

T.

Happy and I are great friends and sure we disagree on things but the definition of friendship does not mandate that you must agree on everything to be great friends (in fact a little friction/controversy thrown in tends to keep things interesting) Let me start off by telling you guys that Happy is a man of great wit, talent, character and class and a man that will tell it to you straight (something I have always appreciated) I think Happy and I are in more agreement than he even knows. ;)

The way I figure it there isn’t one size that will please all women because the size issue among woman will vary according to what size they personally find accommodating and as we already know this can vary according to the physical build and depth of her vagina. I do think there is a size that will sit at the top of the mathematical Gaussian bell curve.

Women can not separate the man from the penis because the penis is an integral part of the whole person and other human qualities along with sexual technique is a large part of the equation; however if we could somehow isolate the penis component then I know that I would want a size that is not only more than sufficient for performance but one that inspires sexual excitement and awe just from the visual alone. Agreed? A size that is not too big and yet serves as an insurance policy among the size queens and commands respect from them i.e. I don’t think 7 will do the trick for size queens.

My calculations are based on my own intuition, experiences with women and understanding.
8x6 is the Gold standard for me and as a result of that I project that it should be the Gold standard for others based on women’s reactions and how much confidence and happiness this size has given me in my life. I think that this is the size that will accommodate all of the above mentioned issues and some.

In reality everyone decides what the Gold standard is for their personal situation. I’m convinced that any man with an 8x6 would be happy because I’m happy with it but this does not mean that one can not be happy with less or more but only that I think that this size will accommodate the most men in terms of male pride and the most women in terms of pleasure and maximum performance.

Even when thousands of women on a stripper site were surveyed (maybe someone can find the link Im talking about) they seem to come up with 7” as the perfect size but remember that they are strictly talking NBP here which translates to about 7.5 to 8 inches based on a 1/2 to 1 inch fat pad. With the exception of women that are very educated (like the women on this forum)… women don’t know anything about BP measurements; Also bear in mind that women don’t decide penis size in fractions and will tend to select whole numbers therefore the reality of it is that the ideal size could actually be 7.25 NBP or even 7.5 NBP so we might really be talking anywhere from 7.75 to 8.5 BP. Average this out and we get 8.125 and rounding this out to the nearest whole number, we get 8BP.
Although there is not much number choosing on girth size from women… we do know that just about ALL WOMAN like a THICK cock and 6 girth will insure that you get her attention when you enter her and will insure that you are making a dramatic entry. I know that anyone in show business understands the importance of making a dramatic entry! :mwink:

Does anyone agree with me?

Titleist, I agree with everyone else who is telling you your girlfriend lied to you about all her affairs that were bigger than you. Besides all the reasons given for her motivations, just think of the mathematics of it. You said she has had numerous affairs and most of them were bigger than your 8x6.5. There have been debates on this forum about how rare that size is, but let’s just say that it is 1 out of 100 guys. How in the world is she going to have numerous affairs where most of the guys are BIGGER than 8x6.5? Theoretically, it is almost impossible unless she advertizes for big dicks in a magazine, or goes to places where she can see a mans erection before choosing to be with him. Think about it.

I knew one of you smartasses would try to knock me off balance with this.:)

If this site were strictly about dickpulling or talking about dickpulling, I’d have left long ago, Mgus. That’s the least of my interest in coming here. Although it does provide a humurous backdrop to other discussions - it’s the ultimate “icebreaker” really.

But as my posting pattern reveals, PE or PE discussion per say has little appeal for me anymore. I’m fine with being average in dick size. I want to impress people in other ways.

This is a great thread. It’s cool that all of you are willing to look at your motivations and desires.

My PE is working well — although my wife is not happy when my crotch gets stared at, and she’s afraid I will take it out for a “test drive.” She also doesn’t want me to get any longer, although a bit more girth would work for her. My two cents has to do with perception of size vs the reality of size.

I was tall and very skinny as a kid. I hated it, because I equated muscle with masculinity. I’ve been lifting weights since I was 14, and I KNOW I am in good shape, but sometimes I FEEL skinny. I’ve been feeling that way recently. Then my wife and I checked into a good hotel in NYC for the weekend, and there were full-length mirrors everywhere. I checked myself while getting dressed for dinner, and the shirt I was wearing was tight across my shoulders, and my waist was pretty small; my legs were muscular and thick. So, my feelings don’t come close to the actuality.

It’s the same with dick size. 8” is pretty far out on the bell curve, as is 6” in girth. That’s the actuality, but it might not be ones’ reality.

I have always been confident, and usually successful with women. I’ve never had any complaints, perhaps because I put all my attention on her when we’re making love, and women like that. Four years ago my life was in the can, big time. I’ve rebuilt it from the ground up, and in I am very happy with things. My PE is working very well too, and that makes me happy because I wanted it to work, and it is. For me, there’s less intrinsic value in a big dick than there is in seeing aspects of my life I want to change and changing them successfully.

That and the way my wife says “WOW” when she sees my dick.

SurfDog - I agree, this is a great thread.

ahund - can you quantify the number of unhappy guys or reference their posts? I am up near that range and I ask questions, share my stories, etc., but I don’t consider myself unhappy with my size. I think there is a distinction between “unhappy” and “happy to be bigger”, and I think that distinction is often inferred by readers rather than the owners. I almost always see people respond to sincere questions from larger guys with animosity and incredulity. I don’t mean to sound negative, but I’d like to get a better feel for the implied vs. stated unhappiness.

I’ve shared my reasons in a long-winded thread, but to summarize, they are at least partially related to my wife’s preference for the far end of the bell curve. If she had always told me that I had a huge dick that was almost too much for her, there’s little chance I’d be here at all. However, I have observed a very positive response from my wife that confirms her desire for something bigger. That doesn’t mean I’m unhappy with what I have, but I can see how someone that is envious or resentful could infer that unless I said so.

Since then, I’ve found other reasons to continue. It is a challenge that I actually enjoy. It has improved my performance. I get to make crazy contraptions. I get a kick out of crotch watchers. I’ve gone from an extreme grower to a little more of a shower. I get to read all the crazy shit in this forum. I’ve also become more aware of my own body. I have a thick fat pad (1.5”) and it explains why I feel like I have a short dick (I’m disproportionally thick). I’m more aware of my own perception - Like seeing my dick almost pack a 9x2”ID pumping cylinder. Holding it up to my face it seems huge, and it never seemed to be nearly that big.

Whether it is logical, realistic, fair or anything else, the penis is a symbol of masculinity and sexuality. It’s been that way throughout history and is something that I think is just embedded in our larger than average brains. I love the idea of a third leg swinging between my thighs and many women I’ve known love that idea. Until my wife says it is a bad thing, it will be my hobby - not in order to find happiness, but as part of my happiness. If I make it into the 99th percentile in pursuit of any or all of my desires, is that a bad thing?

SurfDog,

You raise an interesting point that I was hoping somebody would bring up and I think it was Pud that also mention something along those lines before. What I’m talking about is PE as a catalyst for change i.e. PE as a springboard for advancing in other areas of life. With improved confidence comes the carry-over effect into other areas of ones life.

To say that growing a bigger dick will make you more money might seem a bit of a stretch but suppose you are a salesman and you are in the business of selling widgets or whatever. Now every good sales man knows that is what is projected in your sales pitch is to a more or a lesser extent a reflection about who you are and how you feel about yourself.

People can pick up subtle but solid signals like that i.e. they may not be actively thinking about those things but their sub-conscience mind is saying “Hey I like this guy, he seems so confident and sure of himself” and they will tend to associate the product with you and so you must do a good job of selling yourself in order to sell the product to them…

Well it almost goes without saying that the task of selling your self becomes a lot easier if you already feel great and confident about your self and whether you realize it or not some of that will show in the way you carry yourself. This whole thing carries over into the way you interact with other relationships such as your children and your wife and your friends.

I think when someone said that PE can change your life, it does not just mean you have a bigger dick and you are now actively rocking women all over the place with their eyes rolling back into their heads but that there is a whole chain reaction of events that ripple out like the ripples that form when you throw a stone into the still waters of lake. You may have not been bargaining for these other changes in your life but when they come you then realize that they are welcome changes and an extra bonus for growing a larger dick.