Are there any proofs that rest days are good for PEing?

I have no rest days in my current routine(in the progress section).
Its only a month and a half now, so far no gains. But thats not the point.

My question is:

Where are the proofs that rest days are necessary to gain?
Ok, in PE a real PROOF is nearly impossible to give (only the proof that it works but it is different for each individual very much) but what are the facts?

Isnt 8 hours of sleep enough to recover and to grow for the tissue?
I read that Bib had no rest days also…..He had huge gains….

If someone has gained a lot with many rest days what does that proof? Nothing.He could maybe have gained much more without them.

Another point: Wouldnt rest days allow the stretched tissue to become stronger again (in the NON-STRETCHED state) so that gaining will be harder because of stronger resistance?

Who has gained without rest days?

Sure, it would be no problem for me to put in a rest day each week but i believe in “the more, the better” in PEing……

Another point:

There are guys out ther with 2 days on/1 day off; 6 days on/1 off;3on/1 off.
But what sense does this make?
There must be a certain time what the cells would need to grow.
Lets say 24 hours.
So the way to go would be 1 on/1 off.
Or lets say 48 hours.
So the schedule would be 1 on/2 off.

The system of 6on/1 off doesnt follow any possible cell recovering theory (i dont know the facts about bell dividing). If you PE for 6 days and then have 1 rest day that makes simply no sense.

Apart from this, who (as I mentioned above) says that 8 hours arent enough for recovering and growth?

And the last question:
WHY SHOULDNT THE TISSUE BE ABLE TO GROW ON A PE DAY? WHY SHOULD AN OFF DAY BE NECESSARY?

Anyone here with a big medicine or biological knowledge?

I have read that human tissue takes 48 hours (that would be one day on, one day off) to 100% rebuild damaged cells, but this may not apply to all types of human tissue. I also point out the “100%” as it isn´t necessary for you to have recovered 100% when you do PE again to notice gains. It is possible that after one day, and 8 hours rest, that you have recovered a fair amount, enough for you to be able to see gains if that schedule is kept up. let me put it to you this way: If you give your finger a paper cut, how long does it take until it completely 100% heals? It can take days, but after 1 day alone, it is usually almost completely healed. So in my opinion I would say no, not necessary for you to ever take rest days. But, I think it helps prevent injury to take rest days. Right now Im on a 3 days on-1 day off schedule because I can tell that after 3 days my ligs are sore to the point that I think a rest day would do me good. If after 3 days my ligs can take more damage then Ill skip the rest day until it feels like I need one to avoid injury

Here is an interesting exceprt regarding tissue healing that I found while trying to find tissue healing times

Biological Facts of Soft Tissue Healing

All mesodermal tissues are in a constant state of equilibrium. “The milieu interieur” —Claude Bernard
All tissues of the musculoskeletal system have a threshold above which they fail. ACL - 2000 Newtons, Achilles tendon - 4000 Newtons, Hyaline Cartilage - 25 mPa/m2. (Ref: Noyes FR. Functional Properties of Knee Ligaments and Alterations Induced by Immobilizations. Clinical Orthopaedics; 123:210, 1977. Komi PV. In Vivo Registration of Achilles Tendon Forces in Man. International Journal of Sports Medicine, 8:3-8, 1987.)
After injury, musculoskeletal tissues never return to normal, either mechanically or architecturally. (Ref: Ng YF, et al. Long Term Study of the Biochemistry and Biomechanics of ACL - Patellar Tendon Autografts in Goats. J. of Orthopaedic Reseach, 1996; 14:851-856.)
All techniques of rehabilitation have limitation. Such strategies can only “normalize” injured tissues. (Ref. Stanish WD, Curwin S. Special Techniques and Rehabilitation; Crucial Ligaments 2nd Edition, Eds. John A. Feagin, pgs. 773-785, 1993.)
Factors Which Impede Healing (Systemic)

Age
Mal-nourishment
Corticosteroids/NSAIDs
Diabetes
Anti-coagulants
Factors Which Maximize Healing (Systemic)

Adequate nutrition
Calcitonin
Vitamin A
Glucosamine
Anabolic Steroids
Factors Which Impede Healing (Local)

Prolonged immobilization
Rigid fixation
Excessive soft tissue gap
Excessive motion or stress/repeat injury
Factors Which Maximize Healing (Local)

Electrical stimulation
Injectable growth factors
Surgical gap closure/surgical
Controlled motion
(Ref: Stanish WD, Rubinovich M, Kozey J, MacGillvary G. The Use of Electricity in Ligament and Tendon Repair. The Physician and Sports Medicine; Vol. 13:8, August 1985. Buckwalter JA, Cruess RL. Healing of Musculoskeletal Tissues. Fractures In Adults. Eds. Charles Rockwood, David Green, Robert Bucholz; 3rd Ed. pgs. 181-222, 1991.)

Injuries To Tendon/Ligaments

Introduction
When injured, tendon ligaments go through virtually identical phases of healing.

Phase I - Inflammatory
Phase II - Proliferative
Phase III - Remodelling

(Ref: Woo SLY, Buckwalter JA. Injury and Repair of Musculoskeletal Soft Tissues. Am. Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons Symposium, Illinois 1988.)

Example No. 1: Forty-year-old squash player/rupture of the Achilles tendon.

Clinical Experience
A complete rupture of the Achilles tendon requires surgical repair of reconstruction. This offers the most favorable result and thwarts the very high re-rupture rate seen with a non surgical approach.

The rehabilitation for partial tears of the Achilles tendon requires:

short-term immobilization to control the inflammatory phase.
progressive stretching and strengthening.
eventually task-specific rehabilitation which must include eccentric training to optimize tendon repair.
(Ref: Stanish WD, Rubinovich M, Curwin S. Eccentric Exercise in Chronic Tendinitis. Clinical Orthopaedics and Related Research, pgs. 65-68, 1985. Stanish WD, Lamb H, Curwin S. The Biomechanical Analysis of Chronic Patellar Tendinitis and Treatment with Eccentric Loading. Surgical and Arthroscopy of the Knee, 2nd Congress of the European Soceity; Eds. Muller/Hackenburch; Springer-Verlag Berlin Heidelberg 1988. Curwin S, Stanish WD. Tendinitis: Its Etiology and Treatment. The Collamore Press, D.C. health and Company, Lexington, MA.)

The Histochemistry of Tendon Repair
The healing Achilles tendon demonstrates both intrinsic and extrinsic mechanisms of repair with initially disorganized immature collagen. The “healed” Achilles tendon demonstrates realignment of collagen fibres which are similar in caliber, but do realign according to the lines of stress.

The Biomechanical Response of Tendon Repair
With a tendon injury - complete or partial - early control of inflammation followed by progressive stress to the tendon, is in order. Task specific challenges, emphasizing eccentric training, must follow

Rather than rest, why not hook up a car bettery to your peter!

Not that it’s exactly the same thing, but I know from friends who are professional body piercers that the genitals and mouth tend to heal much more quickly than any other parts of the body. For what it’s worth.

The last time I measured, I gained 1.75 inches in length. I have always thought a rest day was ridiculous, but that is just my opinion. I may have took a total of 5 days off in over 6 months.

Jones

What works best for me and I emphasize works for me is little or no rest when going for length with long insane workouts,but while going for girth I take 2 days a week off and really only do 30 to 45 minutes a workout. I also split my girth and length workouts doing one for several months and than switching to the other.

I work length everyday and girth every other day. I think every person is different though and you need to listen to your body. The article above was a great read, btw!

Even going for length I need rest days. When I come at a routine “cold” it takes me about five days to really soften things up and get fatigue going. But, my unit tends to stay quite sore for a few days (naturally slow healer). No matter how many times I’ve tried training through the soreness, I still wear my unit out and have overtraining scares. A few of these times, my ligs have been so fatigued and so stretched that I have definitely pulled directly on the dorsal nerve/vein bundle since it was the only tissue left to fatigue. Trust me, you really don’t want to do that. Oddly enough, the length I gained from these sessions cemented itself immediately…but I was way to scared to train further and wind up with a permanently limp penis.

The moral? Just use common sense. If things are *very* sore and unresponsive down there, just take it easy for a while. If you can gain without rest days, then power to ya.

-antistar

antistar, i think what you say makes sense.

I would go for 7 days a week on and if i feel a strong soreness then i would do restdays until i feel its ok again.

But what does soreness mean?
Is it a “tissue damage” that occured during PE? Is it really this?
Or isnt PEing simply an impulse to the penis to grow because some outer force forces it to be longer? The penis acommodates to the stress.
Even the mocrotrears are anly a theory.

And if all is about stress (to show the body that growth os needed to acommodate to the situation) restdays would be silly (in theory, if you feel very sore the rest day is necessary, i know that from my own experience).
Because there is nothing to “repair” but only to grow.

Then it would be best to put the penis under constant stress (hanging session, wearing an ADS etc.) but using very much weight wouldnt be necessary, only so much weight as the “impulse to growth” is given…..

And maybe numbness means that the nerves are stretched too much. But is that good or bad (the nerves also need to grow)? If the tissue grows the nerves should be elongated naturally…

Dino.

How does your length routine look like?

Rising

Hang and than hang some more, I also mix some manual stretches in just because I’m anal and can’t stop pulling my dick. I try to hang for at least 10 hours a week. During the time I’m going for length I only jelq once or twice a week for 15 minutes just for health. All my length gains of late have come from the bib and hanging.

I think a lot of it depends on your individual body and experimenting and seeing what works for you. Probably another important reason to keep a log and monitoring your results. Sometimes my busy schedule forces me to take a couple of days off even when I don’t want to and I am still see some slow gains in length and girth!

I work best with no days off as well. Oddly enough I gained a wack of girth quickly by doing a hard jelq session in the morning and then some dry jelqs every 2 or 3 hours after that and another hard jelq session at night. (repeat the next day). I too believed that sleep was enough time to recover. I do think though that a plateau requires decon breaks to overcome.