Benefits of Heat in PE

I don’t know if you can control the heat of the disposable pads as I’ve never seen one. I think I’m going to try using a damp face cloth as a buffer tonight. The pad I use has a soft cloth cover that is supposed to attract moisture out of the atmosphere in order to help thermal transfer, but you’d have to let it heat for far far longer than I can tolerate for it to become a significant amount of moisture.

My current feeling is that this heat thing really does work, but suspect that it would need to be cycled (eg. 4 days on, 3 days off) in order to distinguish between stretching and rebuilding. I just got over excited at immediate impressive gains, then nothing at all, and lost perspective since I was seeing daily gains, and came to expect instant gratification (a recurring human fault :o ). If I switched to measuring monthly, the data might show a very different picture…

I poured 12 oz. of rice into a long tube sock and tied it off at the end. That allows me to wrap it around Mr. Happy in a barber pole fashion along the length and gives me access to the areas I need to do a heated V-Stretch. Should work for any stretch manual or not. Took a couple of wraps to get the positioning right so it would stay on.

But it feels great and I get a good heated stretch for the duration. But I see now that I’m gonna have to fix me up another rice sock just to wrap up all the extra exposed inches I’m gonna gain from this! :) :)

Time to buy some winter leggings then :)

The rice sock also provides a lot of skin friction to get a good pull without having to grip too tight, so you can keep the heat on while you pull if you like.

I bought an electric heating pad yesterday and did my two hanging sets with it today. I kept the heat applied during the entire hanging sessions, with a few minutes off between sets. After that, and a few minutes of manual stretches, I checked my BPFSL. It was a solid 8.75”, which is up a little from recent measurments.

I would have to agree with you guys for a number of reasons. I think this theory may fly. You guys be my lab rats and let me know how it does for ya.

Ok, I remembered I had some of these disposable heat pads, so a quick trip to storage to rummage through my hunting stuff had me all set :)

For those wondering what these are, type in “disposable heating packs” in any search engine, should pull up lot’s of info. Basically, they are little packs that contain charcoal, vermiculite, salt and some other shit that when shaken and exposed to oxygen produce up to 130* of heat for up to 6-12 hours (depending on size of pack).

So I get to my office, open one, shake it, and stick it down the front of my pants then take a seat :) I put it on the outside of my boxers so as not to burn my skin. Within 20 seconds or so, It is noticeably warm down below :)

I left it in place for 15 minutes, then stood up, and to my delight figured out that a quick shake of my leg sent it sliding down and out my pantleg. I put it in a zip lock baggie, squished all the air out and sealed it. Made my way to the restroom, and proceeded with one of my 5 minute sessions.

Penis was visually red and veiny, and noticeably much warmer than usual. Seem more susceptable to stretching as well, but this was my 6th session of the day, so who knows. The real test will be tomorrow morning, as my shaft always seems very stretch resistant during my first session.

Anyway, the pack worked great, got adequately hot, and shut down soon after placing it in the baggie. I’ll monitor how many uses I get, but the one I’m using only lasts up to 6 hours, so I won’t get as many as some should provide. All in all, should be a perfect solution for a stealth warm up. Time will tell.

So, is anyone incoporating all the ideas here? From the research on collagen extensibility it would seem that a long-term stretch under low force would be best (score one for the hangers).

"When stretched, the connective tissues appears to be viscoelastic in nature. When a force is applied against the tissue and then removed, the tissue behaves as if it has both plastic and elastic properties. The elastic response is shown by recovery of the tissue to its original shortened position, while the plastic response is characterized by permanent elongation. Optimal plastic deformation of the tissue results with applications of long periods of low force stretch. The tissue slowly remodels because a biochemical, triggered by constant force, results in a loosening and shifting of the fibers’ connecting point within the tissue." (link )

If you look at the research on Ultrasound treatment they also have some points on how much to heat structures for the best results:

"The thermal effects […] on human tissues are well documented, and are utilized to […] increase the extensibility of collagen allowing tissues to be stretched more effectively. […] Tissue temperature need to be raised 3-8° C to obtain the increases in tissue extensibility associated with heating."

And about duration:

"Sapega et al. describe a program designed to lengthen functional connective tissue structures in an atraumatic fashion. They advocate a moderate but tolerable force to stretch contractures for 20-60 minutes, depending on tolerance. The joint is placed at end range. Several 30- second breaks can be used."

So maybe we should all get rice socks and have them on constantly while stretching for 20-60 min…

If this info has been posted before I apologize. Just found a bunch of stuff when searching the net after I became intrigued by this thread.

Eb, great stuff. I wish they would define low in “low force stretch”. I have a feeling there is a threshold beyond which the fibers just get tougher and more stretch resistant, but have never seen force quantified…

So 3-8 degrees C translates to roughly 40-48C? I’m thinking that using the Jes with a heat pack now might be a good way forward…

Shiver

Body temperature is 37 C. So 3 C translates to 40 C. That should not be skin temperature, but the temperature of the connective tissue (ligs, tunica).

Part of the tunica is within your penis, covering the CC, so you have to heat up the whole thing, not only the surface.

How long does it take to heat up your penis to 40 C? I guess up to 15 Minutes, depending on the thickness of your penis and the thickness of your tunica. Problem is, the heat quickly falls below the productive level. So you have to heat up again. Or you use a constant heating source.

Geez, would you believe that maths was actually my best grade? and I can’t even do ‘add ups’ :)

15 mins is much longer than I’ve been doing. I’ll bear that in mind though and try to increase it. If it’s true then I need a much more mellow heat source, these things are so hot it’s difficult to keep comfortable.

Some hints about heat and penetration from various studies I found in the net:

“Far-infrared light can penetrate up to 1 to 1.5 inches where heating pads mostly heat at the skins surface.”
About heat packs: “Greatest degree of heating is at 0.5 cm depth from the surface and takes 6-8 minutes to reach maximum.”
“Muscle temperature at 1-2 cm depth increases at lesser degree and takes 15-30 minutes to reach maximum.”
“Stretching window is 3 minutes. After that the tissue temperature drops past tissue extensibility.”

Best heating source, btw, would be infrared, followed by moist heat. Thermotex sells and produces infrared pads, but they are very expensive and don’t have the right size for PE.

I´m thinking the same thing, I have one of those too and it seems like a bit too expensive gadget to just use for cool downs or just have lying in a drawer. Let me know how it works out.

To me it´s an absolute mystery how anyone could use that device for 12 hours a day, or while sleeping.

Actually one study (damn the mess on my harddrive!!) had this to say regarding that issue:

[COLOR=dark red]”In order to deform, and then reform a ligament into a more desireable length and form, the applied “constant” load must reach over 40% of that particular ligament’s “ultimate load”. A ligament’s ultimate load is defined as “the final load reached by a structure before failure”.” [/COLOR]

This is supposedly ideal force so that the fibers don’t revert to their original state but rather remain elongated. (No word on whether heat changes this threshold though.) Now, we don’t know the ultimate load of the tunica and/or ligaments but considering lig pops and other phenomena I’d say that manual stretching, if fairly intense, should at least approach that 40% cut-off.

Because of the high specific heat of water (blood is mostly water), one may heat the tunica faster by heating in a flacid condition. Flacid means less blood which means less water in the penis. Thus it takes fewer heat calories to raise the temperature of the penile tissues if one heats flacid. So heat and stretch flacid. MXL