Does Sex/Masturbation Hinder Gains

I don’t even remember if I’ve given my take on this, oh well here it is.

I don’t believe there is a hard and fast rule on this. Masturbation and sex can be stressful to the penis. The variables are how stressful is the masturbation and sex is and how much stress can you absorb with no decrease in EQ.

I think the deciding factors are the effect it has on your EQ, and what type of PE you are doing.

If you are doing smooth muscle INDEPENDENT PE such as hanging, then I think it has very little effect, but of course the bottom line will always be if you find your rate of gains slow. In general, I think it will be less consequential with this type of PE.

If your PE is smooth muscle DEPENDENT, such as jelquing, clamping, pumping, etc., then it will have a GREATER ability to effect it.

You will have to see whether after you apply stress (masturbation or sex) you have decreased EQ ( shrinkage, decreased nite and morning wood, harder to achieve erections, less hardness to your erections) and how long it lasts.

So, if after sex, you find flaccid is fine, nite wood is fine, no real change of EQ, then I think it is fair to say it will have little to no detrimental effect on your PE. Go for it!

However, if after you apply stress, you have contraction that lasts for more than 30 minutes and see a noticeable decrease in EQ that lasts for hours or more, then it is very likely that it will impact your PE gains negatively.

Personally, I find edging can have all the stress of PE, with none of the gain potential. Of course, a short course of a few minutes is far different than hours…you have to judge the impact it has on your EQ.

The reason this has been controversial is that some guys report they can slam their dicks in a door, fuck for days and days and still get gains. Others have reported that gains come to a halt if they jerk off afterward. Both reports are correct, because there is a huge variation in both the stress and ability to handle that stress among guys.

So the short answer is (for those still awake after trying to follow this) is you must assess your individual response to the applied stress.

Ah, finally my answer. :D

Actually, this gave me a very deep insight into the whole Sex after P.E debate.

Thanks man.

P.S: About the edging part I am a bit confused. It seems to me that whenever I edge, my penis becomes fuller and stays so for the whole day. The E.Q are better and morning erection excellent. Masturbation does bring me some negative E.Q though.

If I cum during the day, I can hang longer and more sessions in the evening without feeling fatigued. My chances of getting donut effect or numb also decreases greatly.

Thats why I say you have to assess the effects on YOU!

For me, it causes decreased EQ, for you it improves it. That is why no hard and fast rule works, other than SEE HOW IT EFFECTS YOU! See what works, and do it…a lot!

Some guys get great results from ballooning, others not. You really have to try what ever it is you want to try and see what effects it has on you.

Probably because it reduces any erection you might tend toward when hanging. The less inflated the penis, the less stress to the smooth muscle…at least thats my theory.

Thanks man.

For me also, edging and/or ballooning causes my penis to stay fuller. Strangely sex doesn’t negatively affect my EQ as much as masturbating does. I’m guessing this is due to my hand’s grip being tighter than a vagina’s grip.

Therefore I try not to ejaculate by masturbation. But if I do give in, I mitigate it by edging, 10-15 minutes later, to regain the fullness in my penis. In this case my EQ is still negatively affected, but at least I regain most of the fullness in my penis which should speed up the healing process.

By the way sparkyx, you are awesome. Your PI and EQ threads helped me realize what was holding me back. And as usual, you again provide some simple but brilliant observations. Thanks!

Thats a nice compliment, thanks.

Hi

I felt I’ve overdone it slightly today with PE and wanted to see if and how good an erection I can get - so I started to masturbate, not for the purpose of cumming, but for some feedback from little joe.

It felt strange to me that I could now jack off without feeling the need to cum (I came close to it a few times but managed to restrain myself).

So, the question would be how does this masturbation without a happy end afect the PE program. Does it do good, bad, or absolutly nothing?

Thanks!

Short answer: It depends!

Well it is dependent on the individual, if your P.I and E.Q stays positive after you have masturbated, well go ahead.

If not do it on off days.

There are 504 posts in this thread so far. I’d suggest that you read at least some of them, formulate an approach, and they see what works for you.

By George, I think he’s got it! :)

If you don’t ejaculate then its like not even having sex or masterbating at all, therefore it won’t negatively affect your PE’ing, IMO…I masterbate and have sex without ejaculating all of the time, which comes in handy when you’re having sex 2 or 3 times a day sometimes like on weekends, then since you haven’t ejaculated you can still get it up since there is no refractory perioid or loss of semen.

I don’t think masturbation affects gains. What I do notice is without masturbation my clamping routines are far more productive than say me having an orgasm every two days or so. Without masturbation it is way easier for me to stay concentrated and engorged in the clamp even watching porn that isn’t that interesting. I also feel quite a bit more expansion throughout the whole penis while clamping and I have not masturbated for about 4 days. It was so good on the last set I had to back it off a tooth and it still felt like it was a little to tight. Needless to say I am gonna hold out from masturbating until an off day or my GF comes back home and I bless her with a nice sticky surprise.

I know there been thread like this but not this..

How many of you cum right after your PE workout constantly and have gained?