Dr. Elist Wants to Censor Thunder’s Place

Searching Yandex for "dr. elist surgery enlargement failure" returns this thread on the first page; also similar threads on PhalloBoards, Reddit, and several mainstream media sites.

Searching Bing with the same string results in a lawsuit against Elist, many ads for phalloplasty clinics, articles encouraging phalloplasty, and a couple of generalized warnings about phalloplasty on the first page. No mention of Thunder’s.

Searching Google with the same string returns warnings about phalloplasty failures, but no mention of Thunder’s.

That’s the Big Three; most of the rest are just front ends that pass their searches on to them.

Dogpile is a front end that forwards to multiple search engines, then returns the aggregated results. They have a bunch of warnings about phalloplasty, and a link to an Elist horror thread on Phalloboards.

A handful run their own crawlers and indexes. Mojeek returns a bunch of generalized warnings about phalloplasty, and a link to the same Elist thread on Phalloboards.

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Google’s utility as a search engine has dropped steadily in the last decade; I have found Yandex to be more useful for many things nowadays.

I’ve been learning more about SEO and other related topics, and I’m appalled by how things (search algorithms) have changed, especially with Google.
The PhalloBoards has 1,000x (not be exaggerating here) more organic mentions of Elist, Penuma, its complications & removals (and so forth) then the next leading site, and occasionally is lucky to be on the first page (only if & when the query tickles Google just right). Well now they don’t do "first pages" so much anymore, but the first 20 results are effectively the same thing. And prior to this change, it was noted that less than 1% of searchers went to the 2nd page of a search result, and instead were more likely to re-phrase their search query. After 20 or so scrolls, I imagine the same still happens (even in absence of "Pages" since now Google is streamlined for more mobile user behavior). I would be curious to see updated stats on this.

I typed in "Dr. Elist implant surgery" and came up at #41st spot, and that was AFTER the section they suggest different search recommendation terms. Oof.

It isn’t even a matter of "competitive placement" on rankings — the idea is that Search Engines should be providing the richest and most relevant information on the topic, and a Platform (namely PhalloBoards, but Thunders too) that has been discussing Elist since 2010-ish, not denting modern search queries is troubling. What’s worse is that many unsuspecting men believe they’ve done sufficient research because of it, having to only find Thunders, PhalloBoards, or the Penuma Removal sub-reddit after the fact.

Sad. I’ll have to take a look at using Yandex more, curious to see how it all compares.

Things you don’t want to see in search results can be manipulated; sort of the opposite of SEO. Look up "reputation management" to see how SEO methods can be used to drown out results you don’t want search engines to show.

Google refactor their search on a regular basis. After 2016 they started making sure that results from “trusted sources” outrank everything else.

Personally, I rarely use google, I use it only for technical queries I can’t find from other sources. Google still has the best ability to understand what someone is actually searching for and the indexes to make that happen. They’ve broken their search engine to the point that it’s almost useless and their competitors do better even with sparser indexes. Even Bing and the companies that use Bing as their back end aren’t quite as bad as Google at this point.

My main problem with Google is that whenever I search for anything, it front-loads the first two pages of results with links to YouTube, which is a Google property and Reddit, which is mostly idiots and ads. Plus the usual random crap completely unrelated to what I’m looking for, so I assume it’s "sponsored placement." Google is also very fond of Stackxchange for technical questions, even though 99% of the replies are "someone asked a similar question in 2014, downvoted".

Adding "-youtube -reddit - stackxchange" doesn’t change the results much; the ‘-’ operator went mostly nonfunctional years ago.

I hate to say this, but I agree. And I used to hate Bing with a hot fury.

It’s such a pity. Google was the market leader because their product was great. Now, it’s just a matter of watching their market share erode very slowly. A lot of people just search on Tiktok these days.

I suspected this was already going on, but unfortunately deeper pockets prevail through these methods, irrespective of overall content quality.