Focus Your PE and Gain! TGC Theory

I think Remek’s and Iguana’s hypothesis is interesting. We’ve gone from looking at ligaments and tunica as limiting factors, now we have an additional variable, smooth muscle, to play with. Since my BPSFL is about 0.52 inches longer than my BPEL I’m a candidate for girth work, which is what I’ll be working on now and see where that takes me. I do very little girth work because my penis is very sensible and gets overtrained very very quickly (get bad EQ very quicly) which is why I concentrate on light slow jelqs and streches.

I’ll see if I can put a girth routine together which does not negatively affect my PIs.

Maybe this doesnt have anythign to do with this but i thought i would post it anyways

It seems to me that everytime i smoke some marijuana, my EQ greatly increases, but this could also just be me being stoned and THINKING it is. I truly belive though that it does increase my EQ because my girlfriend has even mentioned it to me. Isnt marijuana a muscle relaxer? So relaxing the smooth muscle increases EQ?

I hope this isnt a useless post

This was my last measurement info from last year

Sunday, May 27, 2007
NBFL 6”
FG 5.125”
BPFSL 10.7”
BPFL 6.6”
FBG 5.75”
FHG 4.75”

NBPEL 9.2”
BPEL 10”
EG 6”
EBG 6.25
EHG 6

Erection quality was about an 8 but I attribute that to the tribulus and AAKG I was taking at the time. I stopped doing P.E. for a while after that because not gaining was making less consistent. I’ll continue with this theory though and try to stick it out for the long run.

Has anyone considered that the difference between BPSFL and BPEL has to do with the fact the when stretching the ligaments are being stretched and while erect they’re not, thats one reason for the difference.

Another reason for the difference is due to when overtraining the BPSFL is going to decrease but the BPEL generally doesn’t decrease.

For the record I don’t agree with the theory in this thread at all.

I can tell you guys put a lot of work into this theory. Thanks, I really appreciate the hard work. Anyways, you recommend to do girth work if your bpfsl is longer but the techniques you recommend, by your opinion, work both length and girth. If one were to do these exercises, wouldn’t the bpfsl grow out maintaining the same problems. Also, what exercises do you recommend purely to work the smooth muscle without lengthening the tunica?

I’ve give your theory a good read, and I just want to say Thank You to both you guys for the time and effort put into this. Now I’ve got a better understanding of the anatomy of the inner penis. Your description of the smooth muscle and its role is clear and concise.
Now everybody can adjust their routine according to their goad, it be length or girth or both.

On another note, it seems you disregarded the claims that focusing mainly on girth make it hard to achieve length gains in the future. I got a feeling you want people to always incorporate girth exercises in their routines.

My bpel is almost an inch longer then my bpfsl yet my erection quality is prolly only a 7 if that, any advice?

Yoyototo, sounds like you might be a good candidate to test. I would be interested in hearing of any progress. Keep us updated please!
BTW, that’s quite the monster your growing there! I hope it doesn’t turn on you. :)

The difference between BPFSL and BPEL has to do with the fact you are manually pulling your penis as far out as it will go, as opposed
to an erection in which the penis is pushed out from engorgement with blood. Granted the ligaments will play a role in resistance when
stretching. However, rather than contributing to the difference as you have suggested, they actually would do the contrary, and (if short or not relaxed) could limit the BPFSL stretch.

I have not found this to be true in my case. Over-training usually will affect both BPFSL and BPEL for me. I have read numerous threads where
others report shorter BPEL measurements from over-training.

Not a problem, we respect everyone’s right to their own opinion.

Thanks Frank! You are very welcome! We hope others find it as informative and useful as you.

Sounds like you have some really tight ligaments. How long have you been PEing and with what kind of exercises/routines?

Very interesting thread, good discussion. Unfortunately I came in late, so I had to print the entire thread and do some homework. In the middle of that I realized that I had a quite unclear picture of the penis’ microarchitechture. I checked some histology slides and papers on the subject and made a discovery (for me, may be not for others):

Unlike in blood vessels the smooth muscle is not surrounding the sinusoids; instead they are running between the sinusoids in bundles.

As a consequence, they probably cannot be equated with the smooth muscle in blood vessels, and truly I know of no other organ in which the smooth muscle is arranged in such a manner.

Hi TTT,

With the architecture of the smooth muscle being as you described, do you have a thought about the ability of the various growth factors to increase this muscle size?

Thanks tick, I was hoping you would join in. Very interesting find! Did you find anything related to similarities/differences in composition?
Is there any reason to believe that penile smooth muscle cells would not react similar to vascular smooth muscle cells autocrine or paracrine growth
mechanisms?

Is this information available on-line?

Thanks!

All I can say is that this describes me 100%. I started a special kind of stretch using a weighted fulcrum (Weighted-fulcrum stretch) and I felt a stretch like I’ve never felt before. This was over a month ago. I realised that me my EQ was weakening, so after about 3 weeks, I stopped doing it as much, and I took a short break from PE. It may have been from over training, and until reading this that’s what I felt it was. But I’d imagine that if you are over training, and you stop a few days everything should go back to normal. It didn’t. I started doing more kegels, but my EQ still wasn’t 100% (I’m 20). Even after taking 3 days off from masturbating, it wasn’t at 100%.

When I read this thread, I realised that it just about describes me. You can see on my link that my bpfsel increased slightly, but the rest of my penis didn’t. My penis never FELT over trained, but my EQ was still low. Maybe I’m just agreeing with this theory because it seems convenient, but from my experience in the last two months, it makes way too much sense.

I’m going to do girth training exercises for the next two months, and I’ll get you know if my penis get and bigger (I’ve been at a plateau for a while now). If it works, you can add me to the case study (I’ll keep you informed).

foomaaa, good to hear you’re going to give it a go. I’m sure you read my experience. I was in the exact same boat as you.
It really made a difference in my case. Thanks for keeping us updated as to any progress.

Personally I believe you are onto something here. It seems to pertain to my condition and the need to focus on the smooth muscle.

I recently received an article from a member here, which deals with a surgical procedure for correcting penile curvature. Although that sounds only tangential to the topics in this thread, there is much good anatomical information that I think many will enjoy. (I’ll tell you who sent it if he agrees to be identified).

Here’s the article: http://www.glhs … /curvature.html

Here’s a snippet: