Hard gainers or bad routine

Hi there..How come some people do PE for a long time with little or no gains, maybe a few years,and then “all of a sudden” start gaining more? There seem to a be a consensus in this community that there is a timespan, sometimes very long, that some hard gaining individuals have to go through before start gaining. As if their ligaments will withstand the stress for a certain time and then start to give after.

I just do not understand how the tissue or ligs can “remember ” the stress for a long time, lets say more than one or two months. Or is there an scientifical explanation.

I mean if you have been doing a routine for 1 year with no gains and then gain 1 inch length and half inch girth in the next year, is in not more likely that you started doing your routine in a correct way after year one ? ( Rather then it took a year to “break down the resistance”..)

I am self a hard gainer and I have kind of been waiting for some good gains, maybe I should change my routines instead. How long do you think one should wait before changing the routine or approach if there is absolutely no gain. Six months or so ?

I dont know if I make any sense or you understand what I mean here and I am sure it has been discussed but I could not find any good threads.

The Ligs in one individual may be much stronger than another, so it may take that extra time to “break down” the tissues. Think of it that way. Its possible that someone may have been PEing incorrectly for a year I guess, but not really likely.

Hello,
I sure like to know how to get past being a hard gainer. I have bought many pieces of equipment, tried different techniques and so on. My ligs seem only to get stronger. I am currently using the bib with my PM w/autoextender end in different combinations. I use hot water prior to the workout for the warm up and sometimes use a infared lamp. I have thought maybe I need to lighten up while I have also considered I am not going hard enough. I have been at it longer than this forum has been up and I just can’t help think either I am not going to make any increases in length or I am needing to modify my approach.

BTW, the wrap that came with the autoextender is by far the most comfortable material I have found. My circulation never seems to get cut off and with the expandabilty I can remove the head harness and push blood back into the head for a good anchor point. This wrap does not sting after prolonged use either. Works great with the bib also.

Idea I have wondered about as to a stretcher, remember the old days when a shoe was a bit small? There was a device that you put into the shoe and stretched it out by leverage. If an approach of stretch release, stretch release is a way to deal with adaptive ligs, maybe such a device mod for a stretcher would be helpful. Let me know what you think of this one.

Anyone else also having “Hard Gainer” problems and got past them I sure like to get a fresh idea.

Thanks,
Manzwa

I hear your frustration.

I am also a hard gainer and believe it is simply a matter of physiology not technique. I have changed my routine MANY times. The only advice I can offer is to keep changing until you find something that works for you. Try more sets more time then less etc. It is frustrating I admit, especially when you read about someone who has just started and they have already gained a 1/2 inch or more.

Best of luck to all the fellow hard gainers.

Hey Manzwa,

Have you tried the deconditioning idea?

Hey there Thunder,
Never heard of the deconditioning idea. I will take a look to see what that is.

Thanks Thunder!

There are a several deconditioning threads in my favorites. See below.