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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by igigi
Obiwan,

Since you already started trying this new approach, and will learn session after session, I would advise you to find a way to work on strain. Second, find a way to properly monitor tension for stress relaxation, and third, be extremely disciplined and accurate with measurements. Write them down before and after each session. As explained before, measure bone pressed, press the ruler against the bone as hard as you can, using always the same spot. Same spot is important, as the bone on the dorsal side protrudes more than towards the side of the penis. Pick a spot, use always the same one.

I measure several times to get the most accurate number, and I am logging it all. I also bought a better hangar setup, so that will now be more consistent. I just wanted to get started on something as soon as I got my US devices. That being said, I’m in the medical and science field, have done research, and published…so I do appreciate the consistency and control you guys are trying to maintain. I do have a digital scale, and made sure as I was hanging over the side of my leg, that I was taking the “pulley” effect out of my leg to really hanging with 6 lbs and that it wasn’t a lesser amount. Also, due to the precariousness of my homemade hangar, I couldn’t easily add weight and had to just stick with what I had. I’ve now got a new version of the vacuum cup setup you have, so I’ll be able to mimic the setup you have. That being said, for how “scientific” the effort is, it’s still too variable for there to be a standard application (other than routine), because as you said, it’s going to vary between penis size, septum toughness, etc. I wouldn’t count any of my early data as anything but anecdotal, since I’m sort of doing to half-hazardly, but I wanted to at least get something going while I figure out a more standard routine. I also have difficulties with being able to do this regularly, as I have a long commute too and from work, a wife, and 3 kids, so having an hour to myself is a little tough at times.

Originally Posted by ObiWan77
I measure several times to get the most accurate number, and I am logging it all. I also bought a better hangar setup, so that will now be more consistent. I just wanted to get started on something as soon as I got my US devices. That being said, I’m in the medical and science field, have done research, and published…so I do appreciate the consistency and control you guys are trying to maintain. I do have a digital scale, and made sure as I was hanging over the side of my leg, that I was taking the “pulley” effect out of my leg to really hanging with 6 lbs and that it wasn’t a lesser amount. Also, due to the precariousness of my homemade hangar, I couldn’t easily add weight and had to just stick with what I had. I’ve now got a new version of the vacuum cup setup you have, so I’ll be able to mimic the setup you have. That being said, for how “scientific” the effort is, it’s still too variable for there to be a standard application (other than routine), because as you said, it’s going to vary between penis size, septum toughness, etc. I wouldn’t count any of my early data as anything but anecdotal, since I’m sort of doing to half-hazardly, but I wanted to at least get something going while I figure out a more standard routine. I also have difficulties with being able to do this regularly, as I have a long commute too and from work, a wife, and 3 kids, so having an hour to myself is a little tough at times.

What you are doing is great!! I recognize your effort with the little time you have. For sure, you gotta start somewhere and tweak it from there. Eventually you will somehow standardize it for you and get the best out of it each session.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Can Someone Help Me Out With This?

I just read this thread and it’s perhaps the most interesting thing I’ve ever read on this forum.

I’m doing manual hanging at 10 kg followed by some aggressive manual exercises. I definitely feel a “thick ass cord” in the middle of my dick when I stretch and it’s hard as a rock. However, as my hand starts slipping towards the glans, my flaccid stretches out longer and thinner and the “thick ass cord” vanishes. Also, there is no “thick ass cord” when I do mandingo and straight out stretches.

Can someone please help me figure out what is going on?


Start (20-4-2021): 5.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Now: 7.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG | Second Goal (7.5" x 5") Achieved on 06-04-2022 My Gains & Progress

Next Goal: 8.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Originally Posted by thisistheway
I just read this thread and it’s perhaps the most interesting thing I’ve ever read on this forum.

I’m doing manual hanging at 10 kg followed by some aggressive manual exercises. I definitely feel a “thick ass cord” in the middle of my dick when I stretch and it’s hard as a rock. However, as my hand starts slipping towards the glans, my flaccid stretches out longer and thinner and the “thick ass cord” vanishes. Also, there is no “thick ass cord” when I do mandingo and straight out stretches.

Can someone please help me figure out what is going on?

You are probably confusing it. This “steel cord” we are talking about doesnt vanishes. Simply because is what ultimately prevents your penis to keep stretching indefinitely. The way to find it, just grab your penis behind the glans and pull out forwards. Slowly of course. Once you cant pull anymore, touch on top of your penis and you will feel a tendon-like structure that runs all the way from the base to the tip, narrowing towards the tip. Its a littler thicker at the bottom, a little thicker than a cellphone charger cable.

In order to do this make sure you are 100% flaccid, zero level of erection because under some degree of erection the tunica will possibly give you a different perception.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
You are probably confusing it. This “steel cord” we are talking about doesnt vanishes. Simply because is what ultimately prevents your penis to keep stretching indefinitely. The way to find it, just grab your penis behind the glans and pull out forwards. Slowly of course. Once you cant pull anymore, touch on top of your penis and you will feel a tendon-like structure that runs all the way from the base to the tip, narrowing towards the tip. Its a littler thicker at the bottom, a little thicker than a cellphone charger cable.

In order to do this make sure you are 100% flaccid, zero level of erection because under some degree of erection the tunica will possibly give you a different perception.

Ok yes, I was not clear. I definitely have this “steel cord” and this should make me a hard length gainer, correct? But I’m still getting rapid gains as you can see in my signature.

What’s going on? What should I do? What should my approach be? Is it possible to get even faster gains by doing something about this “steel cord”?

May the gains be with you!


Start (20-4-2021): 5.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Now: 7.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG | Second Goal (7.5" x 5") Achieved on 06-04-2022 My Gains & Progress

Next Goal: 8.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Originally Posted by igigi
I researched around the forums all these years hoping for a solution which I never found. Went a few years ago the chemical route trying to unlock some genetic expression. It worked for girth and skyrocket my girth beyond 6 inches, but length never changed.

I finally read the whole 52 pages, and this is what caught my eyes the most. Igigi, what do you mean with “chemical route”?

I want a 6+ inch girth too 🍄🌈


(06-2017):NBPEL: 6.3 MSEG: 4.8

Now: NBPEL: 6.7 MSEG: 5.9

Originally Posted by thisistheway
Ok yes, I was not clear. I definitely have this “steel cord” and this should make me a hard length gainer, correct? But I’m still getting rapid gains as you can see in my signature.

What’s going on? What should I do? What should my approach be? Is it possible to get even faster gains by doing something about this “steel cord”?

May the gains be with you!

No. Having a “steel cord” doesnt make you a hard gainer. Simply because the “steel cord” every body has it. Is not called a steel cord, is called the septum. Is some sort of tendon-like structure, connective tissue. Like a spinal cord of the penis. Its only becomes a problem when your BPEL is the same or more than your BPFSL. At that point, you basically cannot grow more erected length, only girth.

If your BPFSL is bigger than your BPEL, then you have that gap for potential BPEL development.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Egotesticle
I finally read the whole 52 pages, and this is what caught my eyes the most. Igigi, what do you mean with “chemical route”?

I want a 6+ inch girth too 🍄🌈

Assisted controlled priapism with PGE-1. But the result was girth only because I did not know at the time that the septum was my limiting factor.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
No. Having a “steel cord” doesnt make you a hard gainer. Simply because the “steel cord” every body has it. Is not called a steel cord, is called the septum. Is some sort of tendon-like structure, connective tissue. Like a spinal cord of the penis. Its only becomes a problem when your BPEL is the same or more than your BPFSL. At that point, you basically cannot grow more erected length, only girth.

If your BPFSL is bigger than your BPEL, then you have that gap for potential BPEL development.

My NBFSL is certainly longer than my NBPEL (never measured but visually I can tell) so I guess the BP measurement should be longer too.

Thanks for clearing that up.

May the gains be with you!


Start (20-4-2021): 5.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Now: 7.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG | Second Goal (7.5" x 5") Achieved on 06-04-2022 My Gains & Progress

Next Goal: 8.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Originally Posted by thisistheway
My NBFSL is certainly longer than my NBPEL (never measured but visually I can tell) so I guess the BP measurement should be longer too.

Thanks for clearing that up.

May the gains be with you!

Thanks man.

You have to measure BP, not NBP. NBP is inaccurate because its counting the fat pad in the equation.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
Thanks man.

You have to measure BP, not NBP. NBP is inaccurate because its counting the fat pad in the equation.

No lol. I have only measured my BPEL and MSEG. By NBP I meant visual size.

That last line is kinda like my punch line these days that I took from Star Wars haha. Just like some people add their initials at the end of their post.


Start (20-4-2021): 5.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG

Now: 7.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG | Second Goal (7.5" x 5") Achieved on 06-04-2022 My Gains & Progress

Next Goal: 8.5" BPEL x 5" MSEG

I wanted to check in on this thread and state what I have been doing and get feedback. I use an LG hanger and for the longest got a descent stretch. I judge this by my fatigue level at the end of my sessions. I would reach a point to where I just wanted to get the thing off my cock after an hour or more. No pain, just fatigue. I have the chord pretty strong and knew I needed more tho. Eventually the fatigue required more and more weight. Which I did not want to do. I invested into an IR lamp from massage website and it was good but hanging straight down it would only heat the front of my cock. Then, I started getting blue balls because my balls we’re getting heated too. Not good, so I quit that. Now, I bought the smallest heating pad I could find on amazon and wrapped it around my cock and clipped it at the top and bottom with the lg hanging out the bottom and then I clipped my weights onto it. I am very reluctant to move up in weight and am currently hanging with 6.5 pounds. After about an hour I will reach fatigue and have to take it off. This is working well. You can use too much heat though and your cock stretch too much. I have had a couple times where I pissed some blood because the vessels in the urethra were stretched too thin, maybe an injury at the time too. When I did this I turtled bad too being that I think I overtrained basically inured myself. Mild heat pad wrapped around your cock and light weight is what I am trying to do. Hour long sessions Maybe 1.25 hours. I did fulcrums some but went back to this. Has anyone else done this? Any feedback? Curt.

Hi everyone,

I finally found myself where I should ask a question to bring me forward.

I am not sure if I have this thick septum steel cord or if I have injured the septum steel cord, what I primarily wonder is if my banana peel feeling inside my penis is it? I do not dare to stretch out fully as I am injured but I do remember that there is some resistence, although not much, I mean, everyone has some resistance in the penis? It is not necessarily that hard but perhaps banana peel hard? Should I assume I have this cord or not? Could anyone give me a pointer please.

Moreover, what is the consequence of having injured this septum cord and how does one know that?

Best wishes

As I see newbies asking for more information about the use of heat, I am bumping these threads which contain the most valuable information related to PE in the last few years including the use if heat and ultrasound as a scientifically proven method.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Ive read about half this thread and I have felt the limiting cord feeling limiting my stretching. I too have a high angle erection.

I just simply change the angle Im stretching and it relaxes (typically about 20 degrees above straight out)

Just my observation


Goal 7.5 x 6.5

Start 4/22 6 x 5.25 BG

Current 11/22 6 x 5.5 BG 4-7/8" MG

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