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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by djrobins
Lig gains have nothing to do with the Septum or tunica. Lig gains come quickly and then they are exhausted. Do BTC or downward hanging or stretching to get your lig gains. The ligs are what holds the portion of the cock which are bound to the pubic bone.

The septum is what ends the tunica based length gains. The guys here are saying US heating allows the internals to stretch even further so we are now able to exceed septum limited gains.

So If I have this cord I still can gain some length?
Tbh I would be happy with 0.5 to 1 inch gain in length.
Probably can achieve that on Lig gains🤔

Originally Posted by djrobins
That being said US heated fulcrum hanging where the fulcrum has a small diameter like a drum stick will loosen the septum folded over the fulcrum. Move the fulcrum up and down the shaft in 1” increments. Follow by a long hang.


Small-diameter fulcrums like the drumstick-size described will lengthen your penis and help it hang longer flaccid.

They can also injure you, so watch out. It’s that folded-over effect that places more stress on the tissues in both a good and a bad way.

Like so many other PE exercises, it’s like shaking hands with the devil.

Has someone here with the steel cord ever tried prolonged sessions with a vac extender with a heating pad or its a waste of time?
I also have this damn cord and no gains for me. One thing that I see hard gainers that claim to have the cord
Probably have the cord a little softer than people with the cord who never gained. So people here that had been able to gain from the beginning (newbie gain) probably made their cord thicker, not only the cord but the entire dorsal part of the penis because of heavy hanging and some structural resistance from the penis. I’m sure that there are some differences between those who thickened their septum to those who had it as strong as steel, to begin with.

There is only one way to know if we all share the same issue (steel cord) if you tried everything possible and never gained anything and then tried the US machine or fulcrum hanging with IR lamp that’s definitely going to convince me and many others with the same issue.

Is there anybody here that made a progress with the steel cord who never gained newbie gains?
I’m trying to stay hopeful, let’s solve this fucking issue once and for all!

Originally Posted by Cipher8555
So If I have this cord I still can gain some length?
Tbh I would be happy with 0.5 to 1 inch gain in length.
Probably can achieve that on Lig gains🤔

Everybody has “the cord” It is called septum. Whats different here is that some people have toughened their septum and others were born with a tough septum.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by Benmush
Has someone here with the steel cord ever tried prolonged sessions with a vac extender with a heating pad or its a waste of time?
I also have this damn cord and no gains for me. One thing that I see hard gainers that claim to have the cord
Probably have the cord a little softer than people with the cord who never gained. So people here that had been able to gain from the beginning (newbie gain) probably made their cord thicker, not only the cord but the entire dorsal part of the penis because of heavy hanging and some structural resistance from the penis. I’m sure that there are some differences between those who thickened their septum to those who had it as strong as steel, to begin with.

There is only one way to know if we all share the same issue (steel cord) if you tried everything possible and never gained anything and then tried the US machine or fulcrum hanging with IR lamp that’s definitely going to convince me and many others with the same issue.

Is there anybody here that made a progress with the steel cord who never gained newbie gains?
I’m trying to stay hopeful, let’s solve this fucking issue once and for all!

I remember reading once that someone with a tough septum made good length gains. He also thought he wouldnt be able to (in the beginning).
So that got my hopes up. I’ve got an extreme strong cord.. which I believe is an artery, but Im not sure.
I havent ever really gotten into length training, but I just started picking it up again after a long break.


(06-2017):NBPEL: 6.3 MSEG: 4.8

Now: NBPEL: 6.7 MSEG: 5.9

My gains have stalled. I have the cord feeling. My stretch length is about 8.75. 9 if I’m really warmed up. But I max out at about 8.5 BP. I was aiming to go over 9 or achieve 6+ girth. Neither is happening.

Originally Posted by 1jelqatatime
My gains have stalled. I have the cord feeling. My stretch length is about 8.75. 9 if I’m really warmed up. But I max out at about 8.5 BP. I was aiming to go over 9 or achieve 6+ girth. Neither is happening.

Man, why would you want to? That’s more than any women needs. Even size queens would be more than satisfied with that. You honestly start to limit your options after a certain point.

Originally Posted by ObiWan77
Man, why would you want to? That’s more than any women needs. Even size queens would be more than satisfied with that. You honestly start to limit your options after a certain point.

After a while, you just want to be bigger than most men

Originally Posted by Egotesticle
I remember reading once that someone with a tough septum made good length gains. He also thought he wouldnt be able to (in the beginning).
So that got my hopes up. I’ve got an extreme strong cord.. which I believe is an artery, but Im not sure.
I havent ever really gotten into length training, but I just started picking it up again after a long break.

ANYBODY who makes septum gains through conventional methods, is simply because that septum was not toughen enough. Once it toughens it toughens and you cannot grow in length anymore. You can pump air into that tunica with a compressor, it will inflate in girth but it WILL NOT grow in length.

As a reference, look at those Asian guys who lift stones with their dicks or pull cars with their dicks. Do they have 1 meter long penises? No. Why? because all that stress and inflammation on the tissues creates septums as hard as a steel rope. Those penises are going nowhere in length.

Conventional methods of progressive force do not work for septum growth.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
ANYBODY who makes septum gains through conventional methods, is simply because that septum was not toughen enough. Once it toughens it toughens and you cannot grow in length anymore. You can pump air into that tunica with a compressor, it will inflate in girth but it WILL NOT grow in length.

As a reference, look at those Asian guys who lift stones with their dicks or pull cars with their dicks. Do they have 1 meter long penises? No. Why? because all that stress and inflammation on the tissues creates septums as hard as a steel rope. Those penises are going nowhere in length.

Conventional methods of progressive force do not work for septum growth.

I cant say I agree. Simply because a person without a tough cord (septum, artery, who knows) wont get length gains either by pulling cars with his dick.

Jelqing is about consistent, gradual elongation, not an immediate one.
And one of the most important factor to go with it, is HEAT.


(06-2017):NBPEL: 6.3 MSEG: 4.8

Now: NBPEL: 6.7 MSEG: 5.9

Originally Posted by igigi
ANYBODY who makes septum gains through conventional methods, is simply because that septum was not toughen enough. Once it toughens it toughens and you cannot grow in length anymore. You can pump air into that tunica with a compressor, it will inflate in girth but it WILL NOT grow in length.

As a reference, look at those Asian guys who lift stones with their dicks or pull cars with their dicks. Do they have 1 meter long penises? No. Why? because all that stress and inflammation on the tissues creates septums as hard as a steel rope. Those penises are going nowhere in length.

Conventional methods of progressive force do not work for septum growth.

That’s a poor reference igigi.

Also you have no idea how tough someone else’s septum is and if conventional methods works for them or not. Your getting a bit preachy.

Well, I spent YEARS researching ways to lengthen the septum. So far, no answers. Many claimed that this guy or that guy has been able to make septum gains, when asked which exercise or routine specifically, no answer. Others point to traditional existing exercises for length that DO NOT WORK on a tough septum. I tried them all, unsuccessfully. Therefore I stopped exercising length and focused on girth.

Until now, that Kyrpa came up with his own scientific research linking high temperature and proper tension to stretch ligaments. I gained length for the first time in so many years which proved to me beyond any doubt that the un-scientific conventional approach of using progressively higher loads do not work for tough septum.

In fact, higher and higher loads expecting more and more gains, tend to become closer to insanity. Because those gains never come, in fact they are reduced more and more as time goes by.

We can argue about different levels of toughened septum, but at the end of the day, if you keep and keep pushing it, it will get to a point in which simply you cannot use astronomic force to stretch it by sheer tension. Once it reaches the dead end is game over. Unless of course the new novel approach of UltraSound is used which IS NOT based on inflammation or micro tears or plastic deformation.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by 1jelqatatime

After a while, you just want to be bigger than most men

You are bigger than most men.


Started: BPEL 6.5", EG 4.5"

Current: BPEL 8.0", EG 5.3"

Goal: BPEL 8.5", EG 5.5"

Originally Posted by Olderguy
You are bigger than most men.

I feel the same as 1jelq, is not a matter of being bigger than most, is a matter of being the biggest in the world. Something that perhaps will never be, but to surrender is not an option. Me at least, will die from old age trying. I just wanna hear every woman say “you have the biggest dick I’ve ever had in my life”

And of course I encourage every brother to set his mindset in the same way. The psychological predisposition has a LOT of influence in the outcome of our quest.


Period 1: 06/08/2020 BPFSL: 22cm (8.66") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 09/07/2020 BPFSL: 23.9cm (9.40")

Period 2: 05/01/2021 BPFSL: 24cm (9.44") BPEL: 22cm (8.66") EG: 15.8cm (6.25") => 07/24/2021 BPFSL: 25.4cm (10.00") BPEL: 23.5cm (9.25")

Goal: 1 Foot x 7.5 Inches (30.48cm x 19.05cm) NBPEL

Originally Posted by igigi
I feel the same as 1jelq, is not a matter of being bigger than most, is a matter of being the biggest in the world. Something that perhaps will never be, but to surrender is not an option. Me at least, will die from old age trying. I just wanna hear every woman say “you have the biggest dick I’ve ever had in my life”

And of course I encourage every brother to set his mindset in the same way. The psychological predisposition has a LOT of influence in the outcome of our quest.

I agree completely with this. I know I’ll never be the biggest dicked, the most muscular, most shredded but I will do everything I can to achieve it, I also feel the same regarding health. I think it’s a good and healthy mind set to reach for the stars.

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