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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by rush9mota
Hi Zyro,

Sincerely I don`t know. There are some posts in this thread about that.

I’m trying to find out what is the best strategy for me, but I`m very afraid of having an injury. When I first saw this thread I immediately recognized that is my case.

Doesn’t matter how hard I stretch my penis, my albuginea tunic, and all the structures I can feel with my fingers keep flaccid, very flaccid. The only thing restricting the stretch is this “cord”. My BPFL is equal to my BPEL and definitively I`m a shower not a grower.

Trying to understand what it is I found out that it should be the dorsal nerve. You can see my previous posts to understand how I concluded that.

Really I don`t know if it`s safe to put too much force on a nerve. I know for sure that a malfunction in this nerve can cause ED and lost of sensitiveness on the penis. I would never try something that can put my penis in danger.

I rather try something like an ADS. Maybe it`s the way, or maybe I should focus on girth prior to length once length may be not possible.

Here are my measurements (both bone pressed). Maybe we can find a pattern through thunders:
Flaccid: 5.7 x 5.5
Erect: 6.9 x 6.2

It feels like I was born to have a bigger penis, but no.

Hi mota,

Thanks for the reply. My biggest problem is that I want to gain Lenght. I started with Erect: 5.8, and after I losed all my newbie gains I’m still 5.8.
But I have this chord, so I really don’t know what to do to gain lenght. In my opinion I didn’t had this chord before I started PE, but after 1 month of PE I felt this chord in my penis.

Could you explain me what ADS is?

Originally Posted by zyroh
Hi mota,

Thanks for the reply. My biggest problem is that I want to gain Lenght. I started with Erect: 5.8, and after I losed all my newbie gains I’m still 5.8.
But I have this chord, so I really don’t know what to do to gain lenght. In my opinion I didn’t had this chord before I started PE, but after 1 month of PE I felt this chord in my penis.

Could you explain me what ADS is?

ADS is all day stretcher. Mainly it is a kind of device to be used for long periods, more than 6 hours. Some guys use for 12 hours.

There are different types, but mostly they are extenders. Low traction and hours of use.

Wish you success in your goals!

Originally Posted by rush9mota
ADS is all day stretcher. Mainly it is a kind of device to be used for long periods, more than 6 hours. Some guys use for 12 hours.

There are different types, but mostly they are extenders. Low traction and hours of use.

Wish you success in your goals!

One more question, I feel the cord on the underside of my penis. But I see some people feeling it in the top side? Where do I need to feel it

Thanks!

These last 3 post make me think that some might mistake what that “cord” thing should be with the tug feeling, as in LOT tugg.

I also had some sort of cord feeling, still have it I guess but it kind of goes away with stretching, especially JAI/shock stretches. My bpfsl was also almost equal but actually shorter than my bpel before pe, right after I started gaining bpfsl over my bpel I immediately began to measure bpel gains and the “cord” feeling was beginning to feel very light or not at all.

And about damaging nerves? I never worried about that, never hurt my nerves or veins, never f’d up my EQ, etc…I’ve also struck my penis in jail with a DIY chisel made out of a spoon, and also cut it open via shaft skin/retractable glans skin with a small sharp razor(in order to insert beads), penises are definitely sensitive but they can also take a lot of stress if done “correctly?”, I guess? If we’re careful with what we’re doing and consistent there are no worries.

Originally Posted by train spot
These last 3 post make me think that some might mistake what that “cord” thing should be with the tug feeling, as in LOT tugg.
I also had some sort of cord feeling, still have it I guess but it kind of goes away with stretching, especially JAI/shock stretches. My bpfsl was also almost equal but actually shorter than my bpel before pe, right after I started gaining bpfsl over my bpel I immediately began to measure bpel gains and the “cord” feeling was beginning to feel very light or not at all.
And about damaging nerves? I never worried about that, never hurt my nerves or veins, never f’d up my EQ, etc…I’ve also struck my penis in jail with a DIY chisel made out of a spoon, and also cut it open via shaft skin/retractable glans skin with a small sharp razor(in order to insert beads), penises are definitely sensitive but they can also take a lot of stress if done “correctly?”, I guess? If we’re careful with what we’re doing and consistent there are no worries.

Hi Spot,

Thanks for your insight. We are trying to figure this out.

The theory we discussed few posts ago is that this cord is a nerve that is responsible for penis functionality and sensitiveness. I posted a nerve scheme and the base for the theory few weeks ago. Obviously, we don’t know for sure.

We are trying to find a strategy that works for the hard gainers which feels this cord restricting the length.

Originally Posted by rush9mota
Hi Spot,

Thanks for your insight. We are trying to figure this out.

The theory we discussed few posts ago is that this cord is a nerve that is responsible for penis functionality and sensitiveness. I posted a nerve scheme and the base for the theory few weeks ago. Obviously, we don’t know for sure.

We are trying to find a strategy that works for the hard gainers which feels this cord restricting the length.

But where do I need to feel this cord? People say it’s in the Dorsal area. So in the upside, but I feel a chord in the underside?

Originally Posted by zyroh

But where do I need to feel this cord? People say it’s in the Dorsal area. So in the upside, but I feel a chord in the underside?

We all have dorsal thickening and two portions of ventral thickening. They are seen in anatomical pictures. Wether or not we feel some of these portions as restricting “cords” is completely different thing.

Some may feel even septum, which is part of the inner layer of the tunica, being the thing not allowing to elongate penis by stretching.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by zyroh
But where do I need to feel this cord? People say it’s in the Dorsal area. So in the upside, but I feel a chord in the underside?

This is the restriction I feel. My tunic and septum feels flaccid when I max out the stretch. But my “cord” seems to be exactly the nerve.

Originally Posted by rush9mota

This is the restriction I feel. My tunic and septum feels flaccid when I max out the stretch. But my “cord” seems to be exactly the nerve.

Can’t open the wikipedia page, could you send another example?
And did someone found a way to gain length with a limited cord

Originally Posted by zyroh
Can’t open the wikipedia page, could you send another example?
And did someone found a way to gain length with a limited cord



Here is the picture.

I don’t know if I’m right. Actually I hope not. But this “cord” feels like this neve.

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Originally Posted by pooper11
Everyone has this “cord.”

Everyone who feels this cord on the top has an upward curving penis.
Everyone who feels this cord on the right has a rightward curving penis.
Everyone who feels this cord on the left has a leftward curving penis.
Everyone who “doesn’t feel it” or feels it “evenly” has a straight-pointing penis.

This “cord” isn’t limiting any gains, and everyone has to deal with it.

The length of the “cord” is what limits how far you can currently stretch your penis, for everyone, and it’s length is increased with PE.

The only reason some people say that they don’t feel the cord is because they have a straight-pointing penis, but they aren’t any better off than anyone else, and everyone can gain the same amount.

I like this observation, I think it is probably true. As someone with a left curve and strong cord, I find this somewhat reassuring.

Originally Posted by LongVehicle
I have been palpating my penis for a bit to study this “chord” more, and as well, I read this thread through. I have some comments.

I don’t think all of the people who noted the chord’s existence on this thread have the same issue that we are discussing. IA, MM, etc. have described the same situation I have. I think the clear components of this are:

When stretched, the CC and CS remain malleable and not fully taut. The penis, as a whole, is unusually girthy, but there is something stopping the CC and CS structures from being stretched enough to become taut. While stretched, palpate the tunica to see if any structure is properly taut. Here you will feel a thick (0.5 inch width on the top, in my case) chord that is completely taut - cannot be stretched further, while the rest of the tunica is not fully stretched. This chord (in my case, and I think all others) lies at the center of the top of the penis.

After palpating quite a bit, I’ve come to no certain conclusions. This steel chord seems anchored deeply at the top of the penis to the absolute base (past the fat pad). It seems to be 0.5 inches in width, if I palpate enough the chord becomes visible as the CC’s are posed downwards (I can literally pull the penis by the chord to see this).

I think marinera is on to something about the development of this through PE. Prior to PE, I never noticed this chord. When I just began PE, in my days of wearing an ADS, I remember that my stretched flaccid penis was long and THIN, with no clear individual limiting structure. Obviously there are two ways this could happen. Namely, either PE caused this chord to thicken and get stronger, or the chord did not change but the CC/CS did gain length while this chord did not, or did at a much less rapid pace and so now we suddenly notice it.

During my last year of clamping, I slowly noticed that my stretched length was unusually girthy. Now, I realize why, as I am no longer performing PE or using Cialis…the girthiness is purely due to this chord.

I presume if I cut this cord my BPSFL would rise by at least 0.25 of an inch.

I agree with the bit in bold, but my cord is mainly on the left, only going to the top at the base. I feel the left hand side of my penis taught, whilst the right hand side is non stretched and malleable. It is most frustrating that I cannot stretch my dick equally on both sides.

I am currently on page 30, btw.


Current Stats NBPEL 6.5" (maximum erection) BPEL 7" (maximum erection) MSEG 5.2" BSEG 5.3" NBPFSL 7" BPFSL 7.2"

Goals NBPEL 7" BPEL 7.5" MSEG 5.5" BSEG 6"

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Current Stats NBPEL 6.5" (maximum erection) BPEL 7" (maximum erection) MSEG 5.2" BSEG 5.3" NBPFSL 7" BPFSL 7.2"

Goals NBPEL 7" BPEL 7.5" MSEG 5.5" BSEG 6"

Originally Posted by bent_cock
I like this observation, I think it is probably true. As someone with a left curve and strong cord, I find this somewhat reassuring.

I agree with the bit in bold, but my cord is mainly on the left, only going to the top at the base. I feel the left hand side of my penis taught, whilst the right hand side is non stretched and malleable. It is most frustrating that I cannot stretch my dick equally on both sides.

I am currently on page 30, btw.

The highlighted is wrong. My cord is still on the left hand side even at the base. I paid more attention during this session jelqing and stretching. It’s still on the left hand side.


Current Stats NBPEL 6.5" (maximum erection) BPEL 7" (maximum erection) MSEG 5.2" BSEG 5.3" NBPFSL 7" BPFSL 7.2"

Goals NBPEL 7" BPEL 7.5" MSEG 5.5" BSEG 6"

So I have known I had the steel cord for a long time but still thought length exercises through normal methods as in straight down, BTC and such would work but last night I was messing about with settings on my bib and thought I would do it on the mirror to see better and noticed (tried this with my LG too after) that the sides of my penis are taking no stretch at all, I’m not sure how to explain it but the shaft is spongy when touched and visually it obvious too. The feeling of the cord is majorly tight though.

So I experimented with the LG over a rolling pin as a fulcrum just using 2.75kg/6lbs and I felt the stretch in a completely different way, also my flaccid after was the biggest I have seen it. When stretched over the fulcrum it’s like the Center dips inwards and the sides are raised and taking the stretch if that makes any sense, sorry hard to explain.

So I think I’m going to set out a new plan using the LG to hang over a fulcrum and possibly manual fulcrum stretches and side fulcrum stretches using infra red heat then when I can afford it ultrasound. Maybe follow more of a Kypra and longer stretch type of routine.

Just to add my erection angle is upwards and rock solid yet the middle of my girth is still spongy, the cord is bang on Center.

Originally Posted by pudd1ng
So I have known I had the steel cord for a long time but still thought length exercises through normal methods as in straight down, BTC and such would work but last night I was messing about with settings on my bib and thought I would do it on the mirror to see better and noticed (tried this with my LG too after) that the sides of my penis are taking no stretch at all, I’m not sure how to explain it but the shaft is spongy when touched and visually it obvious too. The feeling of the cord is majorly tight though.

So I experimented with the LG over a rolling pin as a fulcrum just using 2.75kg/6lbs and I felt the stretch in a completely different way, also my flaccid after was the biggest I have seen it. When stretched over the fulcrum it’s like the Center dips inwards and the sides are raised and taking the stretch if that makes any sense, sorry hard to explain.

So I think I’m going to set out a new plan using the LG to hang over a fulcrum and possibly manual fulcrum stretches and side fulcrum stretches using infra red heat then when I can afford it ultrasound. Maybe follow more of a Kypra and longer stretch type of routine.

Just to add my erection angle is upwards and rock solid yet the middle of my girth is still spongy, the cord is bang on Center.

Your description of your cord fits perfectly to my case. All of the tension is concentrated on small section, all of the tissues elsewhere staying spongy, taking almost nothing from the load. Sides and CC ´s and therefor most of the tunica are completely soft not having any tension at all anywhere but dorsal side. No matter the direction of the stretch , the exercise or even equipment.

I can palpate it very accurately being the dense triangular collagen formation on the septum at the dorsal (upper) junction seen in the linked picture.Septum is part of the inner, circularly organized layer of the tunica.
It is surprisingly a part of the inner layer of the tunica which is restricting my longitudinal elongation. Not the lengthwise organized outer layer.

I have had all my results by heating the restricting portion with the ultrasound. I have pretty much targeted all my heating efforts on this triangular cord only. Of course heating the whole unit put applying the US beam the way which is most intense at the section.

The picture shows the most common restricting sections described in here and on the logs of some PEers.
Dorsal and ventral triangular formations of the septum and the ventral thickening at the ventral side of each CC.

And to the poster saying everyone has these, he is right on the main issue. Everyone has the same anatomy but not all of us can feel these formations taking take load when stretching the unit. Luckiest guys feel uniform tension throughout their penile bodies and can never understand what we are talking about.

Longerstretch and Manko007 (whom has his restriction in only other of his ventral thickenings) ,have used fulcrums with great results for length. I have been able to elongate mine with heated stretches OTL and with manual stretches when the unit is cooling down from the heated stretch.

It is the septum most likely turning parallel to the fulcrum you are feeling when doing it. And I suspect you are on the right track with the fulcrum and the infrared when reaching better gains.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

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