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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Has anyone used the $235 eBay special? Id really like to give US a go but just blew all my $$ on my truck and not outta the woods yet.

Seems like once I hit 8” my length gains came to an abrupt halt even after taking almost a year off :(


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Originally Posted by bazookajoey
Has anyone used the $235 eBay special? Id really like to give US a go but just blew all my $$ on my truck and not outta the woods yet.

Seems like once I hit 8” my length gains came to an abrupt halt even after taking almost a year off :(

What was your starting length?

Around 6 inches in 2014. Took 3 yrs to get to where I am now. Havent made any length progress since starting back up in July. Well…aside from the fact that I can hang a lot more weight for a longer period of time.


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Have you considered possibility of length being maxed out?

Originally Posted by HenrikL
Have you considered possibility of length being maxed out?

Absolutely not.

3” gains are not even remotely out of the realm of possibility.

Besides Ive gained steadily with mostly only manual stretching and hanging. Giving up while there are still other potential ways to make progress dont make sense to me.


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I think 2 inches is still a great accomplishment. After 1,5 year im still not at the 1 inch mark, missing 76mm. And erect gains I have only gotten 0,5”.

Hi Guys,

I am new to PE. I have been doing newbie routine for a couple of weeks and noticed the same as others - a restriction of tissue stretch due to the sensation of a hard cord running through the middle of the shaft. A big thanks to everyone on this thread and there is great general charity on this forum for an issue that involves a lot of wounds but great potential rewards. Manko007 and Kypro I am highly appreciative of the sharing of ultrasound knowledge you have included and the tireless experiments and reporting back. It looks like I have sourced a decent secondhand 1 and 3 MHZ US unit where I live and I am due to pick it up Tuesday. I will incorporate it in my stretches.

Is there a risk of cooking ones unit or will the heat become very uncomfortable before such a thing happens? Does anybody know of how to do a newbie routine that also tackles this dorsal thickening? I have done a search and haven’t been able to find anything in this regard.

Thank-you.

Originally Posted by NicholasVan
Hi Guys,

I am new to PE. I have been doing newbie routine for a couple of weeks and noticed the same as others - a restriction of tissue stretch due to the sensation of a hard cord running through the middle of the shaft. A big thanks to everyone on this thread and there is great general charity on this forum for an issue that involves a lot of wounds but great potential rewards. Manko007 and Kypro I am highly appreciative of the sharing of ultrasound knowledge you have included and the tireless experiments and reporting back. It looks like I have sourced a decent secondhand 1 and 3 MHZ US unit where I live and I am due to pick it up Tuesday. I will incorporate it in my stretches.

Is there a risk of cooking ones unit or will the heat become very uncomfortable before such a thing happens? Does anybody know of how to do a newbie routine that also tackles this dorsal thickening? I have done a search and haven’t been able to find anything in this regard.

Thank-you.

Hi NicholasVan,

For a start I feel the need to mention that being a newbie still not aware of all of the physical indications your unit is giving as a feedback and not quite sure what these practices are actually causing I would give it some time before going to more advanced level of things.

Well as a concept in cooking you are applying energy to the cooked item regulated with two measurable variables temperature and time.
If the power output of your machine fits in the range or below of what its documented by manko or me you are on the safe zone.
These outputs mentioned are 1.6w/cm^2 1MHz and 2.0w /cm^2 3MHz. Latter being already quite powerful equipment for this line of use.
Downtune it a bit for a start if necessary and get to knowing it step by step.

Use it for a maximum of 20mins at time constantly moving the transducer. Do not stay still in one spot more than few seconds. Better not use it everyday. Use it only when your dick is already in stretched position. If you proceed like this the risk of accidentally cooking your dick is likely insignificant.

If it is to believe in writings and personal experiences then you just can´t hit the resisting dorsal thickening with the newbie routines.
That said I still recommend you to have a patience and learn more about your unit and PE practices in general. There is no need to rush things.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

This is great advice. Thanks Kypra, good gains (not that you need it) and good health to you man.

Originally Posted by NicholasVan
This is great advice. Thanks Kypra, good gains (not that you need it) and good health to you man.

Thanks man. Keep on learning is the most important ingredient and then you will gain and keep it safe.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Well guys I got my ultrasound unit it has a 30mm transducer head. I am excited but will take it slowly. I will hopefully report back to let you know if I get more stretch as at the moment it certainly isn’t pencil thin or near abouts.

Hey guys, I’ve used the ultrasound unit for a while now and have some thoughts to add.

So far I have done extending and hanging while ultrasound heating the shaft. And I have done manuals and pumping while ultrasound heating between sets. I haven’t measured, nor done much beyond casual testing, but the internal heat levels are excellent. The real trick to it is finding ways of applying PE forces while also being able to keep an ultrasound transducer constantly moving over a lubed penis. I may eventually pick up a PM Pro attachment since it looks like it covers less of the shaft than the VH3 cone I currently use.

I agree with Manko’s temperature numbers in that ultrasound heat causes a higher internal tissue temperature than an IR lamp. Doing PE in a hot tub is the only thing that could reach the same temperatures. I’ve never had my own hot tub or had a situation private enough to do PE in a hot tub (at least that I dared). But several big gainers did it.

Ultrasound heating comes with a mandatory safety warning. I studied a lot about ultrasound before using it the first time, and had to learn some things I didn’t know about the physics of sound. You should study it too. You can seriously injure yourself by pointing an ultrasound transducer at the wrong tissues. You should not point it at any organs. And definitely not the testicles, eyes, heart, or brain. It can be used on muscles, connective tissues, joints, bones, and blood vessels - which includes the penis shaft but NOT the testes.

The other absolute key things that anyone must know to use ultrasound heating is that it needs a contact medium. Ultrasound gel works. So does water based lube. So does vaseline.

You must keep the transducer head constantly moving around the penis surface while in contact with the medium. Keeping the transducer in motion makes sure the sound energy is distributed evenly throughout the tissues and not concentrated into one point (which can cause a burning sensation).

Like anything it can be overdone. Not only are sound waves being converted into heat energy, they are also micro-vibrating the tissues. I do it about 20 minute maximum. I think it could be done twice a day like that although I haven’t tried it.

Here is a guide to ultrasound therapy:

Some other resources that helped understanding and application:
Using Ultrasound as a Therapeutic Modality – Human Kinetics
Overview of Therapeutic Ultrasound Applications and Safety Considerations
https://www.res earchgate.net/p … n_physiotherapy
https://www.jos pt.org/doi/pdfp … t.1995.22.4.142
Three-MHz Ultrasound Heats Deeper Into the Tissues Than Originally Theorized - PMC

The unit I have has 1 Mhz and 3 Mhz settings each with adjustable power output from 0 to 2.0 w/cm2. I tested the full power range at each frequency setting.

My findings are consistent with this quote from the last study linked above, and quoted below. In other words, the 1 Mhz did not effectively heat the tissue, but the 3 Mhz does.

Quote
Using the ultrasound device studied here, continuous 1.5-W/cm2 ultrasound treatment for 10 minutes at a frequency of 1 MHz produced neither vigorous heating (increase of 4°C) nor an absolute tissue temperature of 40°C in tissues at a depth of 2.5 cm (Table, Figure). On the other hand, 3-MHz ultrasound produced both vigorous heating (increase of 4°C) and an absolute intramuscular tissue temperature in excess of 40°C at a depth of 2.5 cm. Vigorous heating (increase of 4°C) was achieved at an average of 3.35 ± 1.23 minutes, whereas absolute intramuscular tissue temperature of 40°C was accomplished at an average of 4.13 ± 1.69 minutes with 3-MHz ultrasound. Thus, the rate of heating with a frequency of 3 MHz was 1.19°C/min at a depth of 2.5 cm.

Additionally, I found 1.5 w/cm2 at 3 Mhz to be approximately the maximum comfortable setting. Above that, I begin to feel “micro burns” if I slow down the motion of the transducer head at all. It registers similar to a shock sensation, but I believe what’s happening is a localized point where overlapping wave patterns all hit the same point and temperature spikes causes an internal burn sensation. So to answer the question can you cook your unit with ultrasound, yes I think so, in the form of these micro burns. So 3 Mhz at 1.5 w/cm2 is the cutoff point for me, where I get the best heating rate possible without micro-burns (at least as I interpret them).

My unit also comes with two transducer heads, one with effective radiating area (ERA) of 1 cm2 and another with ERA of 5 cm2. Higher ERA is more total power output. I’m using the 5 and the 1 does not effectively heat for me. So doing the math, my favorite heating rate is 3 x 1.5 x 5 = 22.5 which I think is in watts.

I think the ideal transducer head size for my girth with be 3 or 4 cm2 which would then need a higher power output to get the same heating wattage.

I’d recommend anyone looking to try this heating method go with a unit that has similar total power output levels, i.e. roughly 20 watts total when you multiply out the ERA x Frequency x Power output, while also having a transducer head size that is not larger than your penis width.


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Last edited by BeardedDragon : 05-07-2019 at .

And one other thing. Do not do ultrasound heating while clamped. The sound vibration impacts seem to increase discoloration. However, using ultrasound to heat the unit and then clamp is effectively heated clamping as normal.


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Thanks for sharing all of this BD, interesting heating method.

Good to see you stop in, hope you are well.


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