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Knowing whether you are limited by Dorsal Thickening/Septum

Originally Posted by rush9mota
I did a research on penile reconstruction surgery and I think I have an idea of where the limit is.

Along with dorsal veins there is the dorsal nerve, which is responsible for the sensitiveness of the glans and blood valve control.

In this kind of surgery, the doctor replaces the tunica, or does some kind of little cuts there so he can stretch the penis till its limits which is the dorsal nerve max length. The average gains in this kind of surgery is a little bit more than an inch (3.2cm). Of course, this surgery requires an implant for penis to work..

If you are forcing your dorsal nerve, you may have some results, but it’s far more dangerous than stretching the tunica. Risking bad EQ or even an ED.

I believe that some guys just have more room to grow than others. When I stretch my flaccid penis till the limit, it stops because of dorsal nerve, this “cord”. My tunica remains very flaccid. I truly believe that, in cases like mine, length gains are far more difficult.

That may explains why the gains become harder over time.

What do you think?

I agree.

Theory

Also, I have a theory:

Guys that are limited by the dorsal nerve, has a tendency to be more showers than growers. Why? Because they have enough tunica for a big dick, but not enough nerve length to allow the tunica to stretch much.

It would be a good pole. Guys that feel that can’t gain anything else in length because of this nerve “cord”, are you showers or growers?

I started jelqing and stopped I just do stretches now, as I have alot of foreskin and jelquling was making my forskin longer and giving me a ball of skin at the top of my balls. And turkeyneck. Can any one who also has a lot of loos foreskin advise if there is a way for it to be done without gaining more loose skin ?? HELLPPPPPP

Originally Posted by rush9mota
Also, I have a theory:

Guys that are limited by the dorsal nerve, has a tendency to be more showers than growers. Why? Because they have enough tunica for a big dick, but not enough nerve length to allow the tunica to stretch much.

It would be a good pole. Guys that feel that can’t gain anything else in length because of this nerve “cord”, are you showers or growers?

I am not sure if this is what I have, but before I started PE I couldn’t stretch my penis more than like 1 cm past its usual flaccid length, let alone erect length. It felt like no matter how hard I pulled, it stayed the same. Took me 7 months of using an extender every day for several hours, at a high tension to get it slowly stretch up to my erect length. I hope that I can start to gain some erect length now that I got to this point :D

But on the other hand I’ve always got comments from guys and girls about my flaccid size being impressive. Perhaps there is something to this idea of yours? :)

So, any ideas how to lengthen this dorsal nerve?

I have tried many things but the only thing I get is ligs stretch which unfortunately for me is not real size increase because of the low exiting point.

Originally Posted by poqw
So, any ideas how to lengthen this dorsal nerve?
I have tried many things but the only thing I get is ligs stretch which unfortunately for me is not real size increase because of the low exiting point.

Hi poqw,

I read about A stretch, V stretch, fulcrum.. Back in this thread there are some posts..

Anyway, I will not try anything. Damage the nerve and the erections are gone for good. Does it worth the risk? Not for me. I will stick to my newbie routine and after a while I’ll try some extender. If it works, I’ll be pleased to say my theory is wrong. If doesn’t, I will focus on girth.

I’m a 6.9 x 6.2 (BPEL x mseg). My goal is 8 x 6.5. If it’s not possible, why not work to be 6.9 x 7??

Anyway I hope to see successful cases here, but I’m not willing to take much risks.

Hi rush,

Well I have tried A and V stretches but I don’t feel that thing give any further or expand even a little bit.

Any idea if that thing is surrounded by fascia or else?

Can it be tougher if you overwork your penis and vice versa?

The should be a way.

I hope that’s not dead end.

I can stretch it and it will remain thin and long but at times I do feel that steel xord feeling.

My bpfsl was smaller than my bpel before PE, what does this mean to you guys?

I haven’t gained half a centimeter in maybe 6 months or more in bpfsl, but I did see bpel improvement, slightly…

Hi guys,

I don’t know if there is any kind of tissue surrounding the nerve.

Take a look at this:

https://en.m.wi kipedia.org/wik … ve_of_the_penis

Nerve may be just like the marrow. Could it be stretched? I don’t have a clue.

But I’m sure that damaging this nerve is a real problem. It’s how diabetes causes permanent ED, by damaging this nerve.

Maybe, the only way to have minor gains in cases like this is getting the glands bigger. As I said, I hope I’m wrong. But I won’t stress my body till the limit to discover. It could be a sorry story.

Originally Posted by rush9mota
Hi guys,

I don’t know if there is any kind of tissue surrounding the nerve.

Take a look at this:

https://en.m.wi kipedia.org/wik … ve_of_the_penis

Nerve may be just like the marrow. Could it be stretched? I don’t have a clue.

But I’m sure that damaging this nerve is a real problem. It’s how diabetes causes permanent ED, by damaging this nerve.

Maybe, the only way to have minor gains in cases like this is getting the glands bigger. As I said, I hope I’m wrong. But I won’t stress my body till the limit to discover. It could be a sorry story.

Hi rush9mota,

I am quite optimistic that most of the cases can be helped with high enough core temperatures heating with ultrasound.

What comes to nerve being a problem , it would be problem after you elongate your penis in the operating room for 32 mm in an hour or two.
Stretching your penis past 32mm over few months or years will never be any problem.

They stretch nerves and all surrounding tissues 1mm / day when extending leg bones. These strains can cause some negative effects on nerves but are reversible in such a sort time after.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

I’m not sure if this thread has completely gone off topic.. but in my experience I think the easiest part of the penis to thicken is the Corpus Spongiosum, which is the chamber for your urethra, basically the underside of your penis.

I noticed extreme gains in that one area of my penis from my horse squeezing and string clamps.


Current

8.5 BPEL

7.25 EG

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Hi rush9mota,

I am quite optimistic that most of the cases can be helped with high enough core temperatures heating with ultrasound.

What comes to nerve being a problem , it would be problem after you elongate your penis in the operating room for 32 mm in an hour or two.
Stretching your penis past 32mm over few months or years will never be any problem.

They stretch nerves and all surrounding tissues 1mm / day when extending leg bones. These strains can cause some negative effects on nerves but are reversible in such a sort time after.

Hi Kyrpa, thanks for the insight, but operation procedure is the base for my theory.

I suffered ED from porn addiction and, after pills didn’t work anymore I went to see other options. In Brazil we have a doctor called Paulo Egydio who is the most expert in this area down here. He developed a surgery technique called Egydio Technique. There is a lot of content (lots of international stuff in English as well) in the internet about this surgery and I had the chance to have some (expensive) consults with him.

How the surgery works; the surgeon do some little horizontal and vertical cuts on the tunic and stretch it till the limits on girth and length. What are the limits? In length, the nerve max natural size (without stretching it). In girth, the veins structure.

This kind of surgery was develop to max out penis size for guys that needs implants. Without this procedure, the penis becomes shorter after the implant (depends on the surgeon skill)

So, most guys have the penis size limited by the tunic. The average gains in this surgery is 32mm. But some guys have 0 gain. This happens because they already have a big tunic, but the length is limited by the nerve. Some guys have so restrictive tunic compered to the nerve that can reach gains over 50mm.

By that time I discover a book called “You Brain on Porn: the new science of addiction”. It’s when I discovered I was addicted and how to fight it.

I overcome the addiction and the erections are slowly getting back. I still need pills, but pills make me a super man like. Hard as a rock an able to have long sex nights.. One year before I was having suicide thoughts because even pills were not enough to make me hard.

I know what a severe ED can do to a man. Lack of motivation, no self esteem, feeling shame by getting near to a woman, just because you don’t feel you are a man anymore. I still miss the man I was before ED, although I am much much better now.

No one wants to feel like that, believe me! Does ED worth the risk? Not for me.

It seems that stretch the tunic is the safest and easiest method for PE. Some guys have awesome results with cheap extenders, or only with the newbie routine. Stretch the dorsal nerve seems to be hard and quite dangerous. Negative effects on nerves but reversible? Ahh.. I pass.

Originally Posted by rush9mota
Hi Kyrpa, thanks for the insight, but operation procedure is the base for my theory.

I suffered ED from porn addiction and, after pills didn’t work anymore I went to see other options. In Brazil we have a doctor called Paulo Egydio who is the most expert in this area down here. He developed a surgery technique called Egydio Technique. There is a lot of content (lots of international stuff in English as well) in the internet about this surgery and I had the chance to have some (expensive) consults with him.

How the surgery works; the surgeon do some little horizontal and vertical cuts on the tunic and stretch it till the limits on girth and length. What are the limits? In length, the nerve max natural size (without stretching it). In girth, the veins structure.

This kind of surgery was develop to max out penis size for guys that needs implants. Without this procedure, the penis becomes shorter after the implant (depends on the surgeon skill)

So, most guys have the penis size limited by the tunic. The average gains in this surgery is 32mm. But some guys have 0 gain. This happens because they already have a big tunic, but the length is limited by the nerve. Some guys have so restrictive tunic compered to the nerve that can reach gains over 50mm.

By that time I discover a book called “You Brain on Porn: the new science of addiction”. It’s when I discovered I was addicted and how to fight it.

I overcome the addiction and the erections are slowly getting back. I still need pills, but pills make me a super man like. Hard as a rock an able to have long sex nights.. One year before I was having suicide thoughts because even pills were not enough to make me hard.

I know what a severe ED can do to a man. Lack of motivation, no self esteem, feeling shame by getting near to a woman, just because you don’t feel you are a man anymore. I still miss the man I was before ED, although I am much much better now.

No one wants to feel like that, believe me! Does ED worth the risk? Not for me.

It seems that stretch the tunic is the safest and easiest method for PE. Some guys have awesome results with cheap extenders, or only with the newbie routine. Stretch the dorsal nerve seems to be hard and quite dangerous. Negative effects on nerves but reversible? Ahh.. I pass.

I am just saying there are some high gainers who have elongated their penises that much, that they have surely elongated their dorsal nerves as well during process. Surely we don´t really know how they penises really function but it is doable.

In fact I read a study concerning the nerve elongation during leg lengthening and they were trying to figure out what is the maximal daily elongation for the procedure not to interfere normal neural functions. I am afraid I don´t remember more of it by now.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
I am just saying there are some high gainers who have elongated their penises that much, that they have surely elongated their dorsal nerves as well during process. Surely we don´t really know how they penises really function but it is doable.

In fact I read a study concerning the nerve elongation during leg lengthening and they were trying to figure out what is the maximal daily elongation for the procedure not to interfere normal neural functions. I am afraid I don´t remember more of it by now.

It’s interesting. If you find more information about that, publish it here along with your thoughts and experience. After all, we all have the same goal. No better place for discussion, opinions and thoughts.

Birds!

Yes, I too wish to read on leg lengthening and any other tissue lengthening related stuff, make my ncbi library even longer, I swear that website made my jaw drop with a lot of things these 2 years I’ve been reading.

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