My Elist Implant Experience

I see where your coming from, but what is worse?? Lying to your self, when the mirror tells the truth? Or sticking it in a “bucket”, who tells you the same lie? I personally feel that I hit the wall with my exercises, and am not at my goal. Being very realistic about my goals, one can only go so far. I am not committed to surgery., but I am still open-minded to the fact that its more for me, than my wife. Confidence is a point of view. If you can buy complements to help yourself, then why bother with PE? The truth is also a point of view.. We do this for ourselves.. Not our lovers.

We do it for ourselves and keep the risks to a minimum. Now we all know the success of plastic surgery; breast implants, liposucton etc; all well documented but with some horror stories.Why have we not heard as mainstream penis enlargement surgeries? Google breast enlargement and you’ll get 8 zillion hits. Google penis enlargement surgeries and you get but a handful with lots of horror stories. What it tells you is that it’s not ready for prime time just yet.

You are a 1000% right. Statistics show WAY more women have breast surgery, so the bugs have been worked out. But a woman will brag and even show off the work she had done. We men aren’t as likely to whip out our “new unit”. So, it begs the question.. How many men have had a successful surgery, but keep it to themselves. If I was a success story, I would brag about it. But I am not going to jail for indecent exposure by showing it off in public. If I could afford it, I would do it just to document here.

That’s called the Argument from silence .

The point Jimbob was making pretty effectively is that breast augmentation is mainstream. Even with that there are problems but they are mostly supply chain e.g. substandard implants that leech or cut price clinics. You can go to places you’ve heard of for breast enlargement. Penis enlargement is a different matter.

You could argue that length surgery (cutting the ligaments) is relatively safe and maybe close to the risk levels of breast augmentation but after length surgery, you have to use a hanger, why not just skip out the surgery and maybe put in a little more time with the hanger? Even then there is at least one case detailed here where length augmentation surgery resulted in a length decrease.

Girth surgery is different. It’s in flux. The area is far more complicated than the breast with closely packed nerves and the surgery itself is quite invasive. Various types of implant have been used, there’s no standardisation, no best practise. It’s maybe even questionable whether an implant over the CC rather than a method to expand the CCs is a good idea.

Being a guinea pig has the advantage that you are at the head of the queue if things work out but it also has a large downside.

I totally agree with you. The down side is horrific. I would prefer to wait until the long term stats come in. I also prefer that someone else be the hero. However, “noth’n ventured, ‘noth’n gained” also has a bit to do with the decision making process. Who knows? There could be something new tomorrow that could be better. “Every thing worth having is worth working for, as long as your not working for peanuts”.

I am not making the silent argument. I was just curious about the so-called thousands of “successes”. I would not make such a decision based on a “silent majority”. I was just hoping more success stories come forward. I also would not assume that there are any “real” successes. This forum is awesome! I guess I’m ahead of myself with my questions, but this isn’t the sort of thing you talk to your buddies about.

Thanks for posting, it awakened me for not doing this.

Welcome to the site, masonm101.

renandstumpy,

I’m glad you’re enjoying the forum. You seem intelligent and I like your username :)

>“noth’n ventured, ‘noth’n gained”<

There are a lot less extreme ways to venture, though probably no zero risk options. This forum covers a lot of them. They have the advantage of being free or low cost often and the disadvantages of not being instantaneous or 100% reliable.

>I was just hoping more success stories come forward.<

Unfortunately that could be seen as a call to arms by the salespeople. In this area it’s best to be sceptical of everything, including this place. Try to consider possible motivations for reports.

If this guy’s report is accurate, then there are at least short term successes

Sudden trouble with Dr. Elist’s silicone implant

Sorry Memento. My bad. I didn’t think of attracting shills. Although I am in my 40’s, I am not very savvy at blogging and forums.

:) No problem. We are all here to learn, in theory. I know I’m still learning. This board isn’t particularly used to surgery shills. I can’t even think of an example of one, right now.

I would bet that the action a penis has to do is far more complicated than a breast, therefore the surgery is far more complicated and would have far more perils.

Why would anyone trust a study done by Dr Elist and his friends? The guy has been lying about this procedure for years. I’d be amazed if more than 1% of his patients still have the implant 5 years post op. Why would anyone “research” this procedure once they’ve seen the massive disparity between actual reviews on forums and the “statistics” offered by Elist, especially when the members of this forum have been shown how Dr Elist chooses to go about his business.

It’s much easier than to do PE for a few years isn’t it? Far more dangerous but easier. It’s the age we live in today; don’t do the hard work but get what you want anyway way you can.

But that isn’t a reason to trust a Dr with a terrible reputation. That is a reason to have penis enlargement surgery. They are two different things. Just because I want to sky dive, doesn’t meant I’d do it with via sky diving company that is known for providing faulty parachutes. It’s normal to want a bigger penis via the easiest possible route, but it’s mental to go to Dr Elist.

It is mental to undergo a procedure that just hasn’t become successful enough for anyone to do it, not just this guy. Surgery can be an faster or even easier answer but not always the correct one.