The Big Why?

For me it started because a small indentation developed and so I started to look at what options were available. I looked at the clinical research and decided on using the extender really thinking in terms of prevention. Once I experienced some rather significant results, I also looked at the situation and realized I had experienced some age related loss in length. So as the indentation issue was resolving my thinking evolved towards restoration and function.

Somewhere during that time I found Thunder’s and really enjoyed the community on many different levels and started gaining further perspective. I think the improved performance and the feedback fuels it too. My mindset has evolved towards optimizing function with the size gains/restoration being part of it. I really like the idea of doing something for myself that way.

And for me it makes complete sense to take it to the point of diminishing returns with the caveat that along the way it doesn’t cause too much discomfort or take certain things out of play. Which I really don’t anticipate.

This is the most interesting and surprising Why I have seen on this thread. Hood luck with your path.

Hey Hundreds, Reading your post made me think of a thread that I just Bumped. Read through the first page of this thread.

“Johan is a believer now! JAI”

He is the originator of the JAI stretch. This stretch was born from a guy that sounded a lot like you. Apparently from the research that I’ve been doing.. It’s worked for many guys.

Good luck!

I can’t find it do you know the guys username?

As privacy is eroded further every day via media, we hear more and more about big dicks and how women love them.

This narrative warps the minds of men and boys toward desperation and futility until they (we) find the beginning of an answer.

Once you discover that you’ve grown a measurable amount you feel that you’ve re-gained some of the control you lost when a comment was made in a film or a tv show or by an insensitive female within earshot.. And your world begins to make sense again.

This is why I came here, and in retrospect I have to thank the mother of my children for all her derisiveness. .if it wasn’t for her I may never have made the gains I have.

Thank you you crazy bitch.

This is it. Used as an attack on a quality that cant be changed, changing it is a big f*ck you to those who try to use it.

I do PE for myself and no one else primary. I want to improve my self esteem and bring confidence to the table. I want to feel better in my skin and go to sleep knowing that I have done everything I could to become better in anyway shape or form.

I am packing muscle at the gym, I am growing the full beard genetics denied me of through minoxidil. And now I am pursuing growth through PE. I want to learn how to love myself before I can learn to love others.

If there is something I can do to become better why not? Ambition and perseverance is the name of the game.

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I do PE for myself and no one else primary. I want to improve my self esteem and bring confidence to the table. I want to feel better in my skin and go to sleep knowing that I have done everything I could to become better in anyway shape or form.

I am packing muscle at the gym, I am growing the full beard genetics denied me of through minoxidil. And now I am pursuing growth through PE. I want to learn how to love myself before I can learn to love others.

If there is something I can do to become better why not? Ambition and perseverance is the name of the game.

It’s not even about satisfying woman anymore, because 9 times out of then if she brings the 9inch dick dude in the conversation she’s only trying to make you feel less of what you are worth to cover her insecurities. Ever since I realized that woman orgasm through clitoral and g spot stimulation I knew that the size queens were full of shit. Ever wonder why they rub their clit when having sex even if you have a Coke can dick?? 80% of woman struggle to orgasm vaginally with NO clitoral stimulation.

In my opinion you should never let a woman dictate your mentality or PE goals because of what they have to say. If she’s already talking about size like it’s a big deal (assuming you are within the average range) shes mostly not worth a shit. Sometimes they are pure mind games.

I kind of went off topic.. sorry guys.
I just do PE for myself. As men we need to learn to value ourself more and care less about the false bullshit woman say. Given that some are master manipulators by nature.

This thread made me realize how I truly feel about PE.
Good luck everyone.

I was always fuzzy when people would say they do something for themselves. Like women say they put makeup and dress all sexy ‘for themselves’ and insist it’s not to draw attention…well where do you go when your all dolled up do you sit in your room by yourself? No, they go to SOCIAL events where they can reflect their beauty off of everyone they pass by and absorb the self confidence that people ‘give’ her. She does it for ‘herself’ but she needs the reactions and feedback from the world to make it worth a shit. And in a way the world kind of gets something…the club gets to be filled with beautiful women. Her boyfriend gets a hot gf that makes him feel like a million bucks. So is she doing it for herself? Maybe.

What I’m trying to say is doing something for oneself is like splurging on a day at the spa.increasing beauty or penis size or leanness has that selfish me me me component to it but really demands a community or another person to fully realize your selfish desires(getting to be the stud at the gym shamelessly walking around with the huge flaccid or banging your girl with a huge dick and allowing no women ammunition in the argument department)

Well I’ll give you analogy that works with PE too, I’m in recovery clean and sober 3.5years, I do it for myself but everyone else reaps the benefits. Does that make sense?

See the thing is the me me me component of it all never really existed half of the because all people really cared about is what other people fucking think. That girl in the club like you mentioned goes all dolled up because she knows it’s what guys want. She cares too much about how men see her that extra makeup will maker her look “prettier to them’.

Most people say “she’s wants a bigger dick” half of the time the dude is 6x5 and yet in his mind he is the problem. It’s all about girls girls girls so you chase PE with the motive to please woman who A. Will never be satisfied because many times guys are in the picture as a fucking rebound and B. She’s worthless and the most demanding ones of them all have little to offer but a B sized push up bra and a size queen bitchy mentality. In which we buy and resort it all to as falling short of being satisfactory and we do PE out of pure shame and insecurity.

I guess everyone see things different but I don’t work out to show off and PE to show my dick to woman. Maybe others do and that’s why we all see things differently.

Just my opinion of it all. Never really been the bragging type so yeah, I genuinely do it for myself. If she accepts me for who I am then good. Why are we only the assholes when we don’t accept her for who she is because her ass isn’t what we expected. Yet she can clearly deny because of your dick size. Eye for an eye. Double standards man. Seriously.

My “big why” comes from the fact that I’ve been hooked on bodybuilding for a couple of years now and, after discovering PE, it felt like a dumb thing to leave that bit of my body with no training.

Social engineers over the past several decades have been busy behind the scenes working toward the empowerment of women under the guise of the “Women’s Liberation” movement. On the whole, this has caused 2 very profound changes over the course of the last century:

1) The expansion of the tax base

You cannot sustain the type of global economy we have today without having exponentially more women in the workforce then you did a century prior.

2) The erosion of the nuclear family

A weaker family based society becomes more dependent upon the government.

The social engineers don’t care about “women’s liberation”. It is and has been a ruse all along in order to fuel division among the sexes.

In our Western society, we pedestalize LOGIC. Our whole education system is based upon it. Yet, logical thought processes only represent one hemisphere of our brain. Logic is thought of as a masculine trait. It’s counterpart is INTUITION, which is thought of as feminine trait. Yet both men AND women have these thought processes occurring simultaneously everyday when percieving their local sector of the universe whether or not they are aware of it. And so when only one type of thought process becomes pedestalized, the other falls and an imbalance of awareness in society at large occurs. That’s where the social engineers come in to take advantage of the situation.

What we have today is not the liberation of the feminine, but it is actually quite the opposite. It is the masculization of the females, due to the society ignorance over how important intuitive thought processes are. This is the source of the double standard that many females today employ and many men today complain about.

I’ve had an eating disorder since I was 15. The underlying obsessive tendencies that fueled that were part of who I am since childhood, and PE is just another manifestation of that.

A few years ago an ex cheated on me several times and rubbed in my face how much larger the other guys were than me (allegedly, anyway, I’ve since become intimately familiar with the statistical improbability of what she was claiming, and also aware that she was a vindictive compulsive liar). She had no idea what she was unleashing, and as we ended up staying together for another 1.5 years, she came to sorely regret what she did to me as she saw me lose all happiness and passion in life, socially withdraw and reject all my friends, and drag her down with me into the pits of depressive hell.

Got frustrated with PE as a zero gainer of over a year and gave up. Got out of that hellhole of a relationship a while after.

And now, years later, I recently got dumped by the love of my life, who doesn’t care about my dick size and never said anything but nice things about it, but has also now unintentionally unleashed a monster inside of me.

I know exactly what a therapist would say about this, that I’m trying to gain control over my body to compensate for the feeling of helplessness that I can’t be with her. And that assessment would be 100% accurate, having a sense of control over myself would be extremely validating right now.

It’s a healthier pastime than cutting my wrists, so “concerned health professionals” can chew on that before they sneer mockingly at PE again and use stupid terms like “small penis syndrome” and “dysmorphophobia”.

As a psychotherapist I assure you that I hold functionality as the most important asset a person can have in their life.

If P.E. Allows a person functionality in an otherwise out of control environment, then so be it.

The idea of balance is really nonesense in this life. Things that are in balance stop.

Life is about movement.

It is the very act of movement toward solving the problem that makes us feel ok, and that’s what we need.