When is it too big for sex and BJ

All this talk about average size and how big we want to get got me thinking. Realistically what is a good size to shot for? For that matter, practically how big a unit do I want to carry?

Of course I’ve dreamed of having a 12x8 unit where I get all the girls screaming and running on campus spreading stories about this 8th wonder of the world. But fantasies are bad. If you know it is a fantasy, you store it in that part of your heart where you know it will never come true. Hope and beliefs are good because you will actually take actions to achieve it because in that part of your heart, you know it’s possible.

Onward to my own experiences..

I have never been insecure about my penis size. After discovering this forum I carefully measured my penis to BPEL of 6.5” if I pushed really hard. It’s probably more like 6.2”. My girth when I am maximally excited is 5.25”, but during most part of intercourse it is probably just 5”. I have had intercourse with 10 girls in my life. One girl was 19 years old and had been with one other guy before. She said my was 3x as big as his ex. I doubt that is the case, but she did say when he does her doggie style it keeps slipping out. One other girl was genuinely pleasantly surprised when she saw my penis and said I should be proud of my unit. Another girlfriend called it big, but I think she just knows the right thing to say to get her boyfriend excited. The other 7 girls did not comment on my size. Recently, despite having fantastic sex with this one girl, somehow she mentioned she had been with a guy that was too big and caused a lot of abrasion on the skin outside her vagina. She said my was perfect. I didn’t like that. I told her that I don’t want to be perfect. I want to be big. It’s probably that conversation that got me back to this forum.

Other experiences worth mentioning. Of the 10 girls I’ve been with, only one I feel like the tip of my penis was touching the cervix when I pushed in really deep. One other girl who was only 20 years old did feel a lot of pain when I pushed it in. The pain is mostly due to me hitting the bottom, but after she was sufficiently excited, it was not a problem at all.

Not all the girls gave me blow-jobs. About 8 of them did. Of the ones that did, only with one girl did I consistently feel her teeth presumably because her mouth is not big enough.

Personal observations from working in the operating room..

I have worked in the operating room for the last 5 years. I have seen many male patients having nurses insert foley catheter in their penis after they are asleep. When patient’s are under anesthesia, their veins are maximally dilated - more dilated than they can ever be under awake state. This rules out anxiety/cold that causes shrinkage. So I concluded these penis size are the maximum flaccid size. So of all the penis I have seen, I have to say that most of them are about my max flaccid size. A few of them are significantly smaller. Some are bigger, but not noticeably. I would say about 1 out of 15 is considerably bigger where I felt a pang of penis envy. Just an extrapolation compare to my own flaccid size, I would estimate these guys (the 1 out 15) have units that are more than 7.5” by 5.5” erect! Also I have observed the nurses’ reaction to penis size. Some nurses are professional and do not make any comments while other would comment on the size. Their reactions have been consistent with my feelings. The flaccid penises that are around my size do not receive any negative or positive comment. The significantly large and small units would occasional get commented on. It seem like anything that could be > 7 inches erect gets postive reactions. As much as I wish my size is bigger than average, based on my observation I am very average. Maybe my girth is a bit bigger which is important since it provides more feeling for girls. I truly don’t believe that the average length is in the low 5”s. I think it’s either in the high 5”s or right at 6 inches.

Observations from watching porn..

Couple of black porn stars out there have really long ones where they bottom out with almost 2 inches of their penis still outside the girl. When the girl is on top this guy has to brace the part of his penis that is outside of the girl so she will not break it. Most of the sex look awkward where the guy could not bang hard and fast into the girl.

In term of BJ, I am surprised that these pron girls can take down penis of that size. Either these guys are not that thick and the camera makes them look thick or the girls have really big mouth.

I have this hair gel bottle that is 5 inches around. I can barely get it in my mouth without scraping it with my teeth. Granted, the penis is not perfectly cylindrical. It is a bit flatter so maybe a 5.5” girth is more like a 5.25”. Given that I am physically bigger than a girl, it’s hard for me to imagine that most girls can fit a 6” girth into their mouth. Even a 5.5” would get a bit of teeth or cause jaw fatigue very quickly.

So this is my experience and I would like to get feedback from the big guys out there.

My preliminary conclusion is that -

For practical purpose length greater than 7.5”would bottom out frequently. These super long guys on the internet cannot be more than 10 inches. They are more like 9 inches, and they are still bottoming out with 1-2 inches to go. It is exciting to hurt the girl with your tool once in a while, but I certainly don’t want to make it a routinely awkward ordeal. I really like to pushed it all the way in and be in physical contact with my girl, not with 1 or 2 inches of space between us. I think at 7.5” you would hurt most girls if you really ram it hard, but if you angle it right you can still have very good normal intercourse.

In term of girth, I think the vagina can take a lot of girth. However, if I want to get consistently decent BJ where the girl bobs her head up and down it seems like anything over 5.75” would be too big.

Regarding personal ego, I want to be the biggest that a girl has ever had. Of course this is not entirely up to my control. I would say that any girl who has slept with more than 10 guys of diverse race would encounter one that is bigger than 7.5 x 5.5 (based on my operating room observations in combination with some of the surveys). This also assumes that bigger guys are slightly more promiscuous. That being said, I think if you are at 7.5 x 5.5 any girl would catagorize you as one of the biggest guys she has ever been with. Also based on my observation of the nurses’ reaction to large penis, they were very excited about anything close to that size.

All this being said, I think 7.5 x 5.75 is a good size to shoot for. Maybe the magical 8 x 6 give that you may not always maintain the max erection. At around this size one should be psychologically proud of himself knowing that he is in the very selected big boys league, and he can still have great sex with most women.

- SimplytheBest

No, not necessarily. I am over 8.5” long and can go balls deep most times.

That is a fine goal.

I am not at 6 inches on girth… yet, but I have no problems with hard erections. And, yes, I am very proud to have such a big boy.

Sounds like they need lessons on how to give a BJ. Buy them a book on the intricacies of a proper BJ.

One of the more sensible posts I have read. What you says rings true with me a lot. I am getting towards the 5.75” girth mark and I think you are spot on with some girls having difficulty with BJs. Especially if they are not expert at giving them. Mind you I would not miss the feeling of tightness you get with some girls for the world. I would like to go to the 6” to get it with more… BJs be damned!

As for length discussions. I have no more to add than what has already been posted many times on this forum. 7” will get more of a response than 6”. 8” more than 7” and so on. But any more than 8” and the desire to make it bigger… I just don’t know if I have it. Ask me again when I get there.

As for being in the big boy league and having great sex. I think you can have it at any size, and it’s a lot more than just sticking your penis in her. Then again, take a world class lover with 8” penis and one with a 5” penis; I think we all know who the woman would pick if all other things were equal.

Interesting post, StB. Just a comment and a couple of questions:

First of all, I think the estimation of erect size from flaccid size is risky bussiness. If someone saw me flaccid, at least when it’s not at its very ‘fluffiest\heaviest’, I doubt they would think my erect size is actually 6.9 nbp x 5.3 eg. And some guys don’t grow much at all. If most guys grow as much as me, what is considered average is way off since most I take a quick sneak peek at in the locker room are bigger flaccid than me. Quite a few are almost as big flaccid as I am semi-hard.. And neither my erect length or girth can be considered ‘bad’ compared to studies. According to the studies with the more ‘modest’ results, I’m ‘high average’, possibly even not that far from being ‘big’. (Which is hard to believe, by the way, at least the length.) So how did you estimate the erect size of those patients? Did you think, ‘If he grows as much as I do, he’ll probably be..’?

Secondly, I think I’ve read somewhere that “On thunder’s, BP is the norm”, but I still always wonder what people mean when they don’t state bp or nbp. So, do you use bp or nbp measurements throughout your post?

Thirdly, you mentioned that some nurses will comment on the size (if there’s anything a little out the ordinary). Do you remember anything more or less precisely, that they have said? What women say about size is always interesting, some of it can be good for motivation for PE, at least. :)

I agree with you simplythebest on the size issue me and the wife used to be swingers we were soft swap couple.that’s touching and oral only but have done full swap switching partners but the wife only want women now I am not complaining ab out it. When we did do the couple thing we would go to the clubs and some parties when every one is naked and have noticed the same thing as you have at that time I was slightly under 7 BPEL so didn’t feel like one of the big guy and still don’t.here’s a site that is kind of cool and it says the same thing about size.https://www.mra … e.com/sizer.php

There is another site that actually shows you what you penis looks like next to others the web site is on here some where it’s kind of cool it also say women preferred 7.5 inchers as there perfect size I will try to find it for you even though we all want 8.

Just found this check it out watch the video

Great research

Luckily I am married and am using PE to make myself the perfect size for her. And maybe just a little more. :-)

Interesting post. You have obviously been thinking this through. Your goal sounds like a good one!

You are aware of the concept of Show-er vs Grow-er, right?

Basically, Grow-ers (like me) may have smaller flaccids but they double or triple in size when erect.

Show-ers have flaccids that don’t get that much bigger when erect.

So it is difficult to do this extrapolation, I think. You don’t know whether your unconscious and drugged subjects are showers or growers.

On edit, I see Norsey covered this while I was typing!

Very good read. Thanks for taking the time to write this. Explain more about the dilated penis veins or whatever when people get the tube in their penises because I think people are being thrown off.

I am about 7 inches and my flaccid ranges from 1 inch to 6 inches.

Kind of off topic, Simplythebest, but your post reminds me of something.

When I was in my late teens I had surgery. In post op I distinctly remember waking up a little bit as someone was lifting the covers while standing at the bottom of my bed.

Then he said “Come look at this.” Someone joined him. The two of them were standing at my feet and lifted the covers from the bottom where they were standing. I always assumed they were looking at my flaccid, and I have always assumed it was because my flaccid was shrunken, as it often was pre-PE.

It really bothered me and made me feel bad for a really long time.

Because I was a teenager, I never said anything to the doctor later. But just a heads up… .

I think this is one of the most honest, straightforward and realistic post I’ve read on this forum so far.
I agree on everything, and yet I think it doesn’t say it all.

I’m lucky, not about my penis size (which is pretty normal, 6” NBPEL), but just about my girlfriend.
Just one year ago she was with an endowed man, 8/8.5” NBPEL, and yet she keeps on telling me that she never had so many orgasms as now; she never came so much, and she never had so much pleasure having sex. Sometimes we have sex even 8 times a day, and she goes through something like 30 orgasms a day.
Look, I’m not trying to show off. I really feel like it’s not my credit, it’s just she’s quickly excited, and she can reach an orgasm in a few minutes. I don’t know why, I’ve never experienced anything like this, it’s just we’re perfect one to the other.

And yet, I want to be bigger. Why?
I’m usually rational, and if I look at the situation I think I should just thank god. But it seems I can’t be rational about this.
What makes me feel worst is my awareness that, PEing, I could injure myself. There’s the sensible risk I could lose everything, and in the end I just think of myself as a stupid. Nevertheless, I can’t stop, I continue PEing.

Why? No idea.
Ok, my girlfriend admitted that she felt more ‘filled’, that she enjoyed the sense of the penis pushing the cervix. But, she also told me once “you feel massive”, and many times that I’m definitively better. Nevertheless, I can’t stop.
I even know that, being successful, reaching 8” or so, I’d meet many more problems, the ones you mentioned. More difficult to receive a BJ, unable to penetrate her deeply every time. But someway I want to be able to ‘hurt’.

It’s addictive, it’s my drug, it’s even ‘perverted’, this subtle will to cause pain.
I feel like PE-aholic, and I feel stupid, because it’s all irrational. But I push on.

It’s interesting when guys try to nail down their reasons for doing this.. I know mine is a desire to overwhelm a woman in every sense… When she looks at me to gape and stare, when it’s in her for her to clutch at me and cry out with a mixture of ecstacy and pain, when she talks about it to be the object of desire and envy.. I could go on, the list is huge! I don’t think I am much different to any other man in this sense - ultimately, we want to be *the* one that will always be the yardstick to which all others are measured against in every sense and have them found wanting.

I know I’m not small, or even average - but it’s never going to be enough - that’s why the men on here with large units still continue to work on them.

Thanks for the response and feedback guys! I am glad a lot of guys can see where I am coming from.

Regarding vein dilation under anesthesia - let’s say you have a hard time finding a vein on your arm (the case with some fat people), under general anesthesia your veins will dilate, and you will start to see a few vein. It is a know physiological response that the blood distribute peripherally (to arms, legs, and like penis) under general anesthesa.

Does this flaccid size correlate with erect size? Probably not consistently. I full accept the potential error in extrapolating flaccid size to erect size. However it is still some information to see that my personal average to large flaccid size without sexual excitement seem to be similar to most of the patients that I have seen. Other observations - one of the black man had flaccid size that was clearly larger than 6.5”x5.5” so it is fair to say that his erect size is bigger than that. On the same topic, just based on observation of flaccid penis, there are defintely more black guys with noticebly large units. I would say about 1 out of 5 versus 1 out of 20 for other races. I don’t think that occurance would pull the average of black penis size to be that much larger than rest of the population, but it certainly would explain the general notion that blacks are bigger. Let us then assume that black guys with large units are more confident and promiscuous, then the chance of girls running into a black guy with a large penis is probably pretty high.

Some of you guys want to know the nurses reponse. Fortunately most nurses are very professional and do not utter too many comments. But for little units less than 3” flaccid, I have heard, “Ooohhh, that’s a tiny, weenie.”

One of the middle aged nurse is very open with talking about sex and penis. It also sounded like she’s been with plenty of guys and experienced different male units. This was her response to one of the guy when he was asleep. This guys is ruggedly handsome, and well built. He hung maybe an inch above average. She was basically licking her chops and calling him well hung. She said he is very fine, but could use a little more girth. My point it that he was not that big, but the total package of being built and good looking plus an above average size he became a very attractive specimen. There were a few unkept patients who are definitely in the significantly large catagory, but non of the nurses paid any attention to them.

I am like many of you guys out there. It must be exciting to have the girl drop her jaws when she pulls down your pants and see how massive you are. To be honest, I also would like to hurt and stretch her a little bit, but not so much that it makes the whole intercourse impossible. I guess this is the newbie forum so I haven’t gotten many really big guys answering at what point they were bottoming out with inches to spare or just getting the head licked for BJs.

That’s all my thoughts for now. Goals? - 7.5”x5.75” to 8”x6”

I suppose if a girl cannot fit you cock in her mouth, she cannot say you have a small dick. Or is it the other way around - she cannot talk coz you got your dick in her mouth.hahah

Sorry, just thought of that and had to write it.

- SimplytheBest