1/2 inch gain - mixed routine

Hi folks,

I’ve been a member here for a while, but only started posting here a few weeks ago despite having attempted to get gains from various routines. Jelqing and stretching did nothing, and an extender did nothing for me (I must of course emphasise me). I never posted because all the info I need is here. I used the excellent tutorials, and read the many posts, but never gained. Did however get excellent EQ, but I don’t need such an intensive routine for EQ.

Anyhow, the old "that looks easy gene" kicked in when I saw the bathmate (yes I know this is the hangers forum, but I’ll come to that). I bought one, and used it pretty much once a day for 2 weeks with 2 days on 1 day off at the lowest level where the tube held to me when stood up , and then for the next 4 weeks twice a day with 5 days on 2 days off whilst increasing the vacuum steadily (sparkyx did some very comprehensive posts on the bathmate). Nothing really happened, my flacid hung lower, but my BPEL remained at 5.9 inches, as it has been for as long as I can remember. This takes us to the end of March.

During the last 2 weeks of March I had found Tom Hubbard’s archived site, and I thought to myself "those are good gains". So I read loads on hanging. At the end of March I made a wench (thank you CaptnHook). Did a few test runs and found that 2kg/4.4lbs was a good place to start.

Here is my routine.

In the shower

1) Warm up
2) 50 crank stretches each way
3) 50 light jelqs to get tissue manipulated and stretched
4) 10-15 minutes hot water pump with bathmate (I look for edema and cut the session when the first signs appear as I do not want fluid build up for hanging).
5) 50 crank stretches each way
6) 2 sets of 50 jelqs

Out of the shower, dry myself etc

7) Apply cocoa butter
8) Make sure I have a 10 minute period before hanging (ensuring that I don’t loose heat)
9) 2 sets of hanging for 15-20 minutes with a 10 minute gap in between with post hanging massage
10) occasionally I do a 2 minute cold water pump in the bathmate
11) Apply cocoa butter

I have done this pretty much twice a day, everyday since the start of April. I have missed about 3 days in total. Sometimes I have hung up to 4 sets in the evening depending on how I’m feeling. I’m now hanging 4kg/8.8lbs, and get a nice fatigue. An extra 0.5kg makes things uncomfortable at the moment. I started doing SO in the morning, and OTS in the evening, but after reading a bit more I settled with OTS (saiyan22 to thank for this one). I have a 6-7 o’clock LOT.

I first noticed gains of just under 0.25 inches by late mid april, and I’m now just over 6.5 inches BPEL (3 days in a row). I find this growth very sureal, I almost have to pinch myself.

I cant say how much is attributable to hanging or the bathmate, but my thoughts on doing both were this; if you pull a piece of material in multiple directions, one after the other, then the fibres separate out more evenly and easily than if you just keep pulling on it in the same direction. However I’ve posted in hanging because I don’t think the bathmate would have done it on its own.

A few bits on fascial tissue:

1)Ida Rolf’s Structural Integration | The Story of Fritz Perls

2)The Permanent Pain Cure by Ming Chew - A book about fascial stretching to cure pain. Ming Chew recommends 3 things for fascial work preparation; Water, Fish Oil, and systemic enzymes. Systemic enzymes are very expensive, he recommends it for fascial scar tissue breakdown. I drink the water and take 3000mg of cod liver oil a day.

Thank you to everyone here, next stop 7.0 bpel.

Stuzilla

Very nice gains, what kind of wrap do you use with the wench?

Didn’t people always post saying the bath mate did absolutely nothing? I think you can attribute all your gains to hanging but the bath mate may of been a decent warmup. Good job! I’m happy you finally got some gains, you deserve them. Keep it up!

Thank you.

I use a cotton bandage underneath, I’m uncut and find the best way to start wrapping is to place a finger under my penis (about where the scrotum joins the shaft) and draw this back into the pubic bone pinning the skin with the finger, I then start wrapping from the base (only way I’ve managed to start the wrap with only 2 hands). I wrap the cotton bandage slightly loose. I then over wrap with an ACE type bandage.

I pretty much agree, however it does make a great, but expensive, warmup tool. Also to prove it requires stopping one or the other, and that isn’t going to happen. :)

Thank you.

Good gains dude. Hanging and Pumping has been the magic formula for me as well. The only difference is I do my pumping sets in the evening after all my hanging sets and ADS work is done for the day. Keep it up man and don’t change anything in your current workout since you are making gains off of it.

Thanks. There is no way that I’m changing anything at the moment, not until I’m ready for that next 0.5 kg.

Well, what happened later?

Grrr, hate cliff hangers…

;)

ps Audacia: Is that really true? Why would it be a difference between the Bath mate and other kinds of pumps (water or air)?

Stu, I believe that gains are almost always possible until someone has truly gained around 2 inches. It just often requires hanging, and getting to a decent weight. Keep in mind you need to build SLOWLY (1 lb a week) but I never got gains until I was at at least 15 lbs. At 20 again now after a hanging break and I will probably have to go up to 30.

Stuzilla, well done. I experienced that same surreal feeling when I measured and found I had gained a full inch. The memory of that feeling is what spurs me on to this day after almost a year of stagnation.

I’ll never give up though.