Can a hanger grasp the internal shaft structures?

Hi, hangers!

I am really curious if there is a way for a hanger, let say Bib-starter, to grasp the internal structures. I use the Bib for more than 3 months and can say that it doesn’t matter how crazy I tighten the hanger it never grasps on the internal structures.

If somebody has the experience of grabbing the internal structures with a Bib, pleas could you share how did you do this miracle?

No and yes.

No, in that I don’t think anything short of a strong vice cranked down damagingly hard can actually grip the internals if they are devoid of blood.

Yes, a hanger can get a good hold if you leave some blood in the CC’s in front of it and the hanger is adequately tightened. When weight is applied the hanger slides forward slightly, compressing the tissue and blood in front of it and rides on this “shoulder.”

Andrew69 mentioned this here. Also see my post two posts down from his.

Hobby that’s a great explanation dude!

I concur.

Thanks. It’s something that hasn’t been made clear enough. I’m sure most of us have struggled with this.

I’ll have to try leaving some blood in the CC’s above the wrap with no blood in the glans when I go back to hanging, may make a big difference if I am aware of that when I attach the hanger and tighten. :) Thanks hobby.

… which raises the question,

Why bother having a hanger that contacts the shaft over a length greater than about 1 inch? It appears that all the “action” is at the leading edge of the hanger, where the “shoulder” of the hanger makes contact with the compressed plug of tissue ahead of it.

It seems the rest of the hanger need only be concerned with making sure that the shoulder is well supported and maintained, that there is enough space for a tightening mechanism, and that there’s enough space and strength for anchors to suspend a weight.

One inch seems like plenty. Maybe even less would work. Hence my love of the Wenchette (It also rocks for fulcrums).

I also agree, I find that the glans is really where the stress ends up, with the loose skin cushioning it to prevent nerve damage.

I’m far from an expert hanger at this point, but I would be weary of shortening my hanger too much. My concern is that if you shorten it then you’d put a lot of pressure on a small amount of skin and maybe damage that skin. Although the alternative that we have now could also be said to be undesirable because it grips so much skin and makes it stretch out.

That’s just how I understand it right now.

Thanks a lot hobby!

Great explanation!

Thank you very much for the link - very enlightening!

I’ll give a try to the trick.

Good point. Longer hangers may have some benefits. Though they can’t grip the shaft behind the “shoulder” enough to prevent slippage, some grabbing force is applied over the hanger’s length. It’s possible that little extra grab makes a difference with heavier weights. If the hanger has internal ridges, maybe a series of “mini-shoulders” are formed under the hanger. I don’t know. A longer hanger might not have to be tightened quite as much to hold the blood in front of it.

I haven’t had very good luck with hangers that were too short. I haven’t tried toothbrushes, but Tom’s toothbrush version of the AFB (picture here) is an example of what I mean by way too short.

Too long is also counterproductive. If the hanger covers much of the shaft it’s hard to have enough skin slack behind the hanger so the load can go on the internals. Too long also interferes with fulcrum hanging.

1” as a minimum sounds good to me. I’m used to the length of a Bib Starter. Its gripping length measured down the center is about 1 5/8”.

I thought about making a hanger design that would create several “shoulder points.” To see what I mean, weave your penis through your fingers on one hand. Over the first, under the next, over the third. Something like this:

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That seems to give a pretty good grip.

If you get the “shoulder” to form at the right place on the shaft, it can take most of the load while the sides of the head add some auxiliary support.

You don’t want all the weight suspended from the head.

There are 3 things that can take the load: skin, head, and the internals (via this “shoulder” we’re talking about).

Stretching skin is sometimes necessary at first or even later to build adequate slack, but a hanger dangling from skin won’t make your penis longer. Some of the guys reporting using heavy weights early in their hanging careers undoubtedly have skin taking a portion of the load. It doesn’t take much skin involvement to make a given weight feel a lot lighter.

You don’t want the head to support much of the load. It can’t take much anyway without being painful.

Ideally, you want enough skin slack for skin to be out of the way entirely. With lighter weights the internals can take all the load. With heavier weights the head can share a little of it.

Sorry, I didn’t describe it very well. Suffice it to say that I agree with you. The skin bunches up near the glans, but now that I’m hanging I don’t really feel the head taking a lot of pressure.

Ok. I wasn’t sure what you meant. Your post gave me an excuse to babble. :)

That’s true.. but when you get up to higher weights you really need to clamp down hard to avoid too much stress on the head.. and with a short hanger thats alot of pressure on not alot of area

I’m not sure about that. I believe a certain amount of pressure is required to maintain the “shoulder,” regardless of the size of the hanger. A shorter hanger allows you to reach that pressure without having to compress a longer length of shaft. In other words, the leading edge has the same pressure regardless of hanger size, but less of the penis needs to be subjected to that pressure with the shorter hanger.

A couple of benefits flow from this. First, the shaft is less tramatized because less of it has to be compressed to achieve an adequate shoulder. Second, the hand gets a break because it requires less force to compress a smaller length of shaft than a larger one. This means the screw or clamp doesn’t have to be tightened as much with the shorter hanger. It also saves the screw from stripping or the shoulder from wearing (both of which happened with my full-sized Bib Hanger).