Effectiveness of an ADS as a supplement to hanging

I just dont understand why youre not experienced any erect gains big girtha.

I don’t know either. Unless it is due to all the clamping, pumping and heavy girth work I do. This is why I recommend you guys get all your length work done first before starting heavy girth work. I gained a quick newbie inch in the first 4 months of PE, and then I started concentrating on girth. (MISTAKE) I should have listen to Bib and a lot of the other vets at the time. Because from that point on all erect length seemed to come to a grinding halt. Then after about a year of hanging I gained a little more erect length, then it stalled out again. My BPEL varies between just a hair under to a hair over seven inches, 7-1/4 if I push the ruler till it bleeds, but my girth and flaccid gains keep on coming. On a good day I have about a 6-1/2” girth pre-workout. After an abusive clamp and pump session I can get another quarter inch of false girth. I know the false extra ¼ in just fluid, but for some reason with me it doesn’t doughnut just under the glands like with some guys, or like it did with me in the beginning. But now the lymphatic fluid actually spreads pretty evenly over the shaft giving me this huge post workout dick. I like that fluid, it helps me keep the big lead weights on without wrap or the rubber coating.(Not Recommended) That false 6-3/4” girth will stay with me for about a day before coming back down to 6-1/2. But let me tell you that fluid girth is a lot of fun with the ladies at these nudist camps. No one knows it’s not all my real girth except Mizz. Girtha and of course you guys at T’s Place. All our friends and the couples we get with believe I’m like that all the time. Now I know how guys like RWG and Fatcockala must feel. It is amazing how much difference a quarter inch of girth makes. The best part is that my flaccid has gotten so fat and heavy it doesn’t turtle anymore, and that is all I really care about.

My plan is to keep working girth until I’m a solid seven cemented, and then I’ll stop all girth work and work only length. But, as I’ve said before, I’m not too concerned about erect length. I have a nice fat flaccid hang that looks good at the nudist camps and the dick stays hard and works well without drugs. I’m pretty happy with that, although another inch of erect length wouldn’t hurt.

BG

It could be that you went for the girth prematurely, but I suspect that your resistance to further length gains is from other causes—for example, having got your “newbie” inch or so, now you are somewhat of a “hard-gainer” in the length department. This is quite common. I know that girth has been easy and length difficult for me as well. Some men have the reverse problem. When you get to the girth you want to stop with, then, like you said, focus entirely on length.

My own opinion is that if girth makes length gains more difficult, this would only be for length gains from the tunica, not the ligs. After all, the ligs are not realy affected by girth gains; however, it is somewhat intuitive to believe that length gains from stretching the tunica would be more difficult with greater girth.

The nudist camps sound like a lot of fun! On average, how to the women, including your wife, find 6.75 girth? Is this too much for some, or getting close to being too much?

You make a good point. I believe that girth only hinders tunica length gains, or at least that is what I’m banking on. I don’t think a bulldozer could stretch my tunica, now, but hopefully I still have a little bit of lig gains to be made. That is why I’ve given up on the OTS hanging, and now only hang BTC.

Yeah, the camps are a trip, especially after hours in the dance pavilion. (No kids allowed in there) Nothing like dancing belly to belly and butt to butt with a couple a hundred bare-assed women. I have an interesting hot-tub story, but it would be off topic here. Perhaps in another thread in DW’s forum.

Its my belief that increasing girth shortens length.

Therefore if you are increasing girth and have no loss of length…length IS actually increasing!

Sparky: I think volume is increasing. I can tell by my flaccid length and girth. I just can’t push the ruler any deeper than 7-1/4” erect.

Big,

You know, it might be a good time to try a cycle of pumping. It nicely distributes the forces in both girth and length.

Plus, if you pack the tube girth wise, it will encourage most of the forces expended in length.

Okay, here’s a blunt question: What’s the general standard of attractiveness of the women at nudist camps?

Also, given that you are in a better position than most of us here to comment on such things, based on your experience at these camps, what’s the typical distribution of penis length and girth (in particular, erect length and girth, if you are privy to that information)?

I await the hot tub story, in whichever forum!

Hummmmm? I’ve never heard that one before. Why do you think this is so?

After an initial 0.25 inch or so of newbie hanging length gains, my length hasn’t budged (though I haven’t really been able to hang since then). Yet my girth has gone up over half an inch. My length hasn’t decreased during this time, and I know that I’m not gaining length.

I agree. In fact, try everything! I’m certain you could get the length. There are others with large girth who have gained in length.

Just from personal observation and common sense.

For example I used to wonder why I would measure shorter when I would water pump vs air pump. Well, water pumping would always cause girth expansion far greater than air, and would cause a corrisponding length decrease.

At times, like in the morning when I first wake up, I will have 6in girth, yet shorter length.

Later, when fully aroused, really hard, I ‘ll have full length, yet lose 1/4 in or more of girth.

If you take a baloon, and smash it down to make it thicker it is also shorter. If you pull the ends to make it longer, it also gets thinner.

I think something similar can go on with our units.

I think that if you get increased girth but no length gains, you actually have gained length, but just enough to negate length loss that would have happened due to girth gains.

This theory would be supported it guys report girth gains AND length loss. The only problem is there are few girth increasers that don’t also include lengtheners.

I first thought of this when I noticed that my pants get shorter when my waist expands. When I lose the gut…my pants lengthen again. Its just that as you expand the circumference it will pull up on length (of fabric anyway).

But as I stated previously, I see the same phenomenon with my penis. As a matter of fact, sometimes when only partially hard, I will exceed 6 in, to 6 1/4” but then it is much shorter.

Sparky:

I am an avid pumper. On hang days, which consist of (two sessions of three 20-minute sets at 25lbs with 10-minute dry jelqs and clamping between sets. One session AM the other PM seven days a week. I end the last set of the last of two hour sessions in a gentle pump at about 8 inhg for fifteen minutes then clamp on an X-uli while I shower. In the shower I lather up and slip on lead weights (getting soapy is the only way I can get them on), which I wear almost continuously or at least, until I go to bed, then I wrap or do Bed Fowfers while I sleep. By morning I put the weights back on in the shower and wear them all day.

However, on serious Girth/Pump days (2 days a week) I spend a two-hour session using two different sized tubes. I usually take a Vigra and sit in front of porno to stay stimulated. (Girth work is fun) I do three fifteen-minute sets in a 3” ball and dick tube (Wrapped in a heating pad) with 10 minutes of massage and wet jelqs (Vaseline) edging to the point of ejaculation in between sets. While in the tube I put one of those big muscle vibrators against the heating pad, milking the tube, edging right up to the point of ejaculation during the set. I never get a donut and I never go over the edge. I’m getting real good at holding off both in the tube and in the pussy.

Second hour is in a 2” tube three fifteen-minute sets at 10 inhg with the same massaging and wet jelqs in between. I end the last set by edging in the tube right to the brink of ejaculation then I pop off the cylinder and clamp on a X-Uli and go down to the hot tub where I warm down with some stretches and A bends in the 104 degree water. While in the hot tub I slip on the three lead weights (2 Lbs) and jog around the country club (4 miles.) I end the jog in the pool swimming in the cool water wearing the weights while I swim laps. I think this cool down while extended with the weights is cementing my girth gains, but it may also be cementing me at a permanent 7-1/4” erection. If this is so, you’d never know it by looking at my flaccid. After one of these aggressive sessions, right out of the hot tub my flaccid hang is almost the same as my erect measurements only it points down instead of up. Which is why I getting real popular at the camps. Speaking of camps.

Motivated: I don’t want to throw this thread any more off topic than we have already. Folks will be searching for info on wearing an ADS after routines and get all this nudist camp stuff, but you bring up an interesting point about all the different size penises one sees there, and how women react to this phenomena. I met Mizz G. at a camp. She is a size queen who selects her prospects by size, but that is another story for another thread. In fact I’ve written several hot tub stories in the past year, probably buried deep beneath the old thread cemetery in DW’s forum. I will resurrect them or write some new ones, perhaps I’ll write about the adventures of this coming weekend at the Nudie Farm where

I won’t be wearing my ADS. (Just throwing the thread back on topic.)

Motivated: Here you go. I found that old thread.
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Would you "fluff" before going onto a nudist beach.

You may be right. My flaccid often looks fatter than my erection. It only makes sense that a fat balloon stretched will be thinner so a long balloon fattened up with more air might become shorter. Maybe the fact that I have gained girth and not lost any length is an indicator of some length gains.

The pants getting shorter when we gain weight is funny, but so true.

Ok, try this.

Heat for at least 10 minutes, do hanging or pumping while hot ( I think you need IR for this).

When your time is up, remove the heat and use cool washcloth to cool down in the extended state.

Remember, the effective temp is something like 114 F. Try and keep it at that temp, then cool it down while you are still expanded.

I would limit this to either hanging or pumping.

Try laying off the clamping and ulis for a while…for Gods sake you have plenty of girth. Try concentrating on length for a while.

Make sure you do the heat and cooling thing….give it a month and see what happens.

I would also recommend just doing the stuff you are already doing that works for length, just cut out the girth work. This should cut you time down quite a bit, which may be good for a change up.