Fatigue from hanging

I read a lot on here about hangers saying after their penis gets fatigued that they drop down to a lighter weight

What exactly does that fatigue feel like? Is it when it starts to hurt? I know when I start I feel fine, but usually midway through the 5th set it starts to hurt A LITTLE. Not so much as to make me stop.

I’m at 15 lbs. but the way I do my hanging, not all of the weight is directly pulling on my penis. I would say more like 12.5 lbs. of real weight. This is b/c I use sort of a pulley system I rigged up at home

Feel free to move this to the hangers forum is necessary, I can still only post on the newbie forum

A 2004 newbie!

Well, ng, I think ‘hurt’ might be a sensation you want to avoid. Tolerable soreness, or something like that, is what people mean by ‘fatigue’, I think.

Yeah, I’ve basically done all reading and no posting on this site, so I still have not gained any status, no biggie

I actually started PEing in June of 2003. I’ve made about .5 length gain and maybe .1 (gained recently) girth gain

As you can surmise i am an ultra hard gainer - coupled with discouragement over the last few years from not gaining (which led to me going through several long stretches w/o PEing) - so I’m not as far along as I really should be.

But I think the secret to my success (future tense) will be the TGC Theory. My tunica is my limiting factor and I must stretch it to make my penis receptive to girth gains (which are really my primary focus). That explains why my routine is mostly hanging followed by some advanced manual girth exercises when my tunica is nice and pliable after a good period of hanging. By the way, it takes a few days of good hanging for me to be able to get a good girth workout in.

anyway, like I said the pain is SLIGHT - maybe more of a soreness, so I guess it’s just fatigue and not injury creeping up on me

Identify Fatigue. Get there.
Generally, when hanging, you should be trying to reach fatigue by your second set. After a warm up and a first set, you should be ready to do some substantial weight and reach the point of fatigue. After you’ve reached the point of fatigue, you may find you’re forced to lower the weight (because staying at the same weight becomes too much). At least to the best of my understanding, you’ll just be lowering the weight after you reach fatigue. Lowering the weight in and of itself wont really help you reach that point of fatigue… Think about this—once you truly create micro tears in the internal structure, and start to stretch things internally, these structures become weaker—at some point, the weaker internal structures may no longer support the higher weight. You’ll recognize this as a dull pain, and at some point, you’ll recognize the need to lower your weight.

Skin Stretch
You’ll have to get past the initial phases of skin stretching while hanging before you’ll actually start really attacking the inner tissues, tendons, and structures. Expect about 2 weeks of skin stretching before you can really start to hit the internal structures. Once you reach this point, it may seem the amount of weight you’re able to use drops substantially. Then once you’ve stretched & deformed those internal structures (and made PE hanging gains), you may find you’re working on skin stretching again. You’ll always be working on whatever your biggest limiting factor is…

Level of Weight
One other important point—some hangers say they really don’t start seeing gains until they reach 10+ lbs of weight. I have been lucky, I had measurable gains far before reaching that point. Anyway, if you truly are a hard gainer, you may need to work up to a level where you can safely work with a much higher level of weight. Be sure not to increase the weight you’re using by more than 1-2lbs per week, and I recommend you change your actual weight in 1/2lb increments if possible (so you can make slow increases/ avoid injury). If you’re increasing your number of sets, (the normal amount is to increase by 1 set per week), be sure not to also increase the weight at the same time. It’s safest to do 1 at a time.

Daily Fatigue is Critical
The actual amount of weight is not really what matters in the end—reaching fatigue is what matters. I would theorize that your inability to identify proper levels of fatigue is what truly prevented your PE growth. Once you recognize what fatigue is, and you reach it daily with hanging, the gains will come. Especially if you’re doing proper warm up/ warm downs, and you’re consistent. Be sure never to miss a day, or you’ll ‘stunt’ your growth since your ligs & other internal structures can actually turtle/ heal shorter.

How to Hit Fatigue Daily without Injury
You’ve got to pull out that slack daily, and create daily deformation & micro tears over a significant period of time to obtain measurable gains. Making gains with hanging is all about ‘riding the fatigue’. On another note, you should be attacking 1 primary & one secondary angle. Also, more than 4 hours a day of ‘strapped in time’ at one angle gets massive diminishing returns and is not recommended. The reason you never need a rest day with hanging, is you can simply change your angle to let internal structures which have been fatigued too much to hang at all heal. In other words, lets say you’re so sore, you can’t even hang 2.5lbs BTC, and your max weight is 10lbs (normally) at the BTC angle. If your second angle was SO, you would just focus there, or elsewhere, until you could return to the BTC angle. Hopefully this makes sense…

You say you’re a hard gainer—I recommend that you be sure to take as many measures as possible including BFSL. Most likely, you’ll see BFSL gains long before your erect gains come. Some would say BFSL gains indicate that you’ve got ‘gains in the pipeline’. Just consider, BFSL gains indicate a longer, or bigger penis, and eventually, when muscle or other needed growth has occurred, with your continuing PE effort, eventually these gains should be realized as BPEL gains.

There are extensive articles on fatigue—I recommend you read several. I’ve been on hiatus for too long to link the best ones. Anyway, I recommend you research this. If you don’t know exactly what you’re looking for as far as fatigue is concerned you’ll never make big gains. The reason is simply this: the whole point of a PE workout is to reach substantial fatigue without injury. If you can’t do this, you’ll never gain, and if you fatigue yourself too much, and are unable to recognize this, you’ll get an injury.

You’ll have to go by feel. A slight, dull, or mild aching type pain is ok—you’re trying to get micro tears here. Any sharp pain is to be avoided—ruptured veins, unnatural swelling, bruising, discoloring, or persistent high levels of pain may all be signs of a macro tear. One of the best measures, is simply gains. If you feel no pain whatsoever, and you’re not making gains, it’s probably a sign you need to increase the number of sets, or the amount of weight used for hanging. Be sure to give your body time to adjust to any level of weight you’re using, especially because of attachment point stresses.

I think warming up & warming down are critical, and you might consider some cooling as well if you have an injury. The warming up & cooling down should help make your tissues a bit more elastic which will help prevent macro tears, thrombosed veins, whatever.

Thanks for the info blink

yes I understand everything you’ve said

So basically I should probably start the first set with a lighter ‘warm up’ weight. Then move to the main heavier weight and angle for the second set which should create fatigue

I always just used my heavy weight from set 1 through how ever many I could get done. I suppose that when you get fatigued, and you can’t support the heavy weight (which is indicated by the slightly increased feeling of soreness/pain) you should move on to a lower weight to continue to put pressure on those newly created microtears. (at this point I would always just stop hanging for the day)

This is exactly what I’m talking about in the “state of dick thread.” Are you taking any rest days? When you get to this pint when you are ABLE to have a good girth workout, what else are you noticing? Better flaccid, better erections, warmer unit, etc.? Thanks. have a look at that thread I mentioned.

rush

Excellent write up blink!

Rush,

At this point i do have a large flaccid hang. Other than all I really notice is a greater elasticity to my dick. But it’s weird because sometimes I am able to get a good enough girth workout to where I notice a difference immediately (especially post workout where my dick is puffy). But usually when I do a girth workout i don’t feel especially pumped right after and don’t have the puffiness for the day following.

It’s like my tunica needs to really be expanded for me to get a good girth workout, otherwise i’m wasting my time doing girth

also, i try not to take rest days, but it’s difficult right now considering i’m taking finals

ngt2000, would you mind to give a read to this : Forum Guidelines?

Thanks.

I think you were on the right track with option B, however I’ll say two things:

Often times when I first wake up and go to do my first set, I’ll have to hang a low-weight set or two to get my dick ready to hang my max weight. I can’t explain it, I think it has to do with a combination of over-night turtling and dissipation of the lymph fluid buildup from hanging the day before. Let me be clear that it is not a matter of warming up the tunica before reaching fatigue. It’s because of the skin soreness issues. If I could hang my max weight my first set and not have it sting my skin like hell, I’d be doing it. I.e. if you can get away with hanging your max right away, by all means go for it.

You’re right with hanging the max weight until you can’t anymore, and feel like you have to reduce it. I usually wait until the weight is literally pissing me off so much and causing so much discomfort that I absolutely must go down. That’s where you want to be. If it takes longer and longer to reach this point with the same weight, move up. One pound at a time. You don’t want to switch angles, just keep hanging at the one angle until you can’t anymore. And yes, you do want to put progressively lower weight on the SAME microtears at the SAME angle. Depending on the free time you have, if you get it all the way down to half your max weight (5lbs for a max weight of 10lbs, 10lbs for a max weight of 20lbs, you get it) at your primary angle it’s ok to begin working on another angle. I only have 6-8 sets a day so I stick to one, SO with an RSDT fulcrum. If you work at home or something and have all day to hang, go for it. I wouldn’t work on more than 2 at a time though.

Interesting post, good questions.

~L

Thanks for the info. I have another question. Does anyone notice any sort of girth gain (strictly from hanging) when using a straight up angle? I know the LOT theory seems to be a little controversial (maybe not, I’m not really sure) but my LOT is a 6 or maybe even lower. So by hanging straight up as my primary angle, I’m hoping to hit a double whammy by increasing length and expanding the tunica for the purpose of making girth gains through manual exercises