Hanging with FIRe

Just to jump in with something that might add to the discussion re: heating pads.

I know there’s a few out there using both the Thermedic and Totalman pads at the same time. I’ve been running the smaller “figure 8” Thermedic longways down the dorsal side of my unit with the TM pad wrapped around the whole thing. Had been working well enough for me.

Last night, however, I tried ditching the Thermedic pad and run with just the TM pad only. Holy shit, the heat was so much more intense. Way easier to set up too. Can’t believe I had been fucking around with 2 pads all this time when the TM pad is even better just on it’s own.

I’m not going to go out and spend money so I can shove probes down my pee hole and see what this does to internal temps but based on last nights experience I’m pretty sure it’s working just fine.

I don’t have the equipment together yet, but I’m thinking about trying this. If my measurement is 88mm then my 0.1 range in lbs. Would be 2.4 to 3.1 and my 0.17 range would be 4 to 5.3lbs. So A sample routine I could start with would be:
Week 1
15 minutes @ 1.5 lbs. No heat
30 minutes @ 2.5 lbs. With heat
15 minutes @ 3.5 lbs. No heat

Week 2
15 minutes @ 1.75 lbs no heat
30 minutes @ 2.75 lbs with heat
15 minutes @ 3.75 lbs. No heat

I could go up in 1/4 lb. Increments?

You’ll want to stay at that low weight for as long as possible. Maybe try that week 1 set up for 2 to 3 weeks and monitor your BPFSL before increasing weight.

Also I would consider increasing time under heat and decreasing time without heat.

Maybe more like

10 minutes no heat
40 minutes with heat
10 minutes no heat

Or even

5 minutes no heat
45 minutes with heat
10 minutes no heat

Your cool down weight could even be as low as 3 lbs.

2.5 x 1.20 (20%) = 3.0

Wow, I am finally getting in on this as well. I’ve been doing PE on and off over the years without any real success. The last few years has been primarily pumping with a bathmate. I don’t know if I need a long de-conditioning period or not as I haven’t really been consistent anyway, but I have had 2 weeks off already and I have just ordered a vacuum hanging kit for TotalMan so while I wait for that to arrive, I will continue my decon.
Meanwhile, I want to try to understand this a little better. I think I have it figured out but there are also some questions.

I guess the first question is how long of a decon do I really need to take before starting this routine? Is 1 month enough?
I haven’t done any really high pressure pumping (-7 to -10Hg) in a while and have been toying with longer times at 100 mbar (-1.5Hg) but again, not consistently. How much of this affects my “decon” requirement before starting to hang?

My c1 is 95 so my range is:
0.10 MPa = 2.7lb - 3.3lb
0.17 MPa = 4.7lb - 5.7lb

I thought a lot about buying weights, but then realized that apart from being super cheap, the water bottle option will actually be much easier to manage than using disc or ankle weights.
Plus I can adjust the weight as necessary, so I’m going to stick with those for now.

5.5 suggested to start with 12-18oz and add weight every 2-3 weeks, so I’m going to start with 1 bottle (500ml ~ 1lb)

The beginner routine from his suggestion seems to suit me although I am inclining towards the incremental load option.
15 mins @ 18oz/1.1lb/0.5kg (1x500ml) - cold
30 mins @ 36oz/2.2lb/1kg (2x500ml) - with heat
15 mins @ 48oz/3lb/1.36kg (2x500ml+1x360ml) - cool down

Now according to the principle, I should be adding heat when I get to the top range of 0.1 MPa which is at 3lb for me (3x500ml), but based on the beginner plan, I’m doing that much earlier on. This shouldn’t be a problem right? Or should I just add the weight and not the heat until I eventually get to 3lb?

The incremental weight plan looks like this:
8 mins @ 18oz/1.1lb/0.5kg (1x500ml) - cold
8 mins @ 36oz/2.2lb/1kg (2x500ml) - cold
15 mins @ 36oz/2.2lb/1kg (2x500ml) - heat on, building up to MAX (102 to 110 F)
15 mins @ 53oz/3.3lb/1.5kg (3x500ml) - heat
15 mins @ 70oz/4.4lb/2kg (4x500ml) - heat
15 mins @ 88oz/5.5lb/2.5kg (5x500ml) - heat
15 mins @ 106oz/6.6lb/3kg (6x500ml) - cool down (~25%)

Is there any reason I should hold off on the incremental plan and not start with it? And if so, when should I consider moving on to this plan?

Thanks in advance!

Oh boy, I was hoping to get some response by now. My TotalMan kit has arrived and I am keen to make a start, but since my last post, my EQ has been completely dead. No morning wood at all!

I’m wondering if I should wait a bit longer until that returns before starting?

This is just my n=1, but hanging this way dramatically increases my EQ. Just started my second cycle and it’s undeniable, bigger, stronger, longer boners.

NICE! You got your Super Saiyan Mode on

;P

On the decon length, it’s hard to say. You can try 1 month and see if it works. If not take a longer break and try again.

Hanging light does help EQ so you can try this and see how it goes. If you think your potential EQ issues are non PE related then trying pe to fix is an option that has worked for others.

If I where you I would start with the first plan in your post. That is light enough to get used to the process and you can monitor strain to see if it is having a good affect. Maybe add smaller increments though. When I get back to this I am going to use 100gram increments. The second plan goes up to 3kg which is a bit heavy to start with.

I’ll ditto SG here. There are some free gains to be had by staying light as long as possible. Staying light will also help you avoid long decons.

Question: You hung straight down. Did that put tension on your inner penis as well as your outer penis? If it didn’t, is there a little bit of potential gain left that you could get from stretching the inner penis?

I don’t know what, if any, gains I left on the table.
This approach concentrates on extending the septum and CC with heat. That’s why we are generally using weights lower than those who chase ‘lig gains’.

So you were basically stretching your CCs (and septum) using your suspensory ligament as a fulcrum. My question is, was there any CC that wasn’t getting stretched because it was inside your body, behind your suspensory ligament?

I don’t know how you would apply heat to that area without cooking your prostate though lol.

Thanks for all your work, by the way. Your threads helped clear up a lot of my confusion. I think heated hanging will be my main plan of attack in the future.

Currently on decon after compression hanging fairly heavy in the early part of the year. Experienced no added length really hanging an hour plus a day up to around 11lbs. Left me fairly skeptical of this “lig gains” or “inner penis” concept but maybe its worked for some..

Anyway I’m definitely interested in giving this a go if I can get back to baseline. As for many of us my journey into PE was brought on by some pretty serious size anxiety and the urgency with which I approached it lead to a more is more approach which seems to be counterproductive for many people. Thanks 5.5 for your personal log and helping to guide others as well.

Wow, thanks scienceguy and 5.5Squared!
I think I got carried away with the incremental loads based on some of the other posts.
And correct me if I’m wrong here but I’m guessing you mean add smaller increments to the the second plan? And would I increase the time or keep it the same?

I’ll have to empty some of the water from the bottles to match the required weights.
Maybe start with 12oz and increase by 6oz each step.

How does this (plan3) look?
8 mins @ 12oz/340g - cold
8 mins @ 18oz/510g - cold
20 mins @ 24oz/680g - heat on, building up to MAX (102 to 110 F)
20 mins @ 30oz/850g - heat
15 mins @ 36oz/1020g - cool down (~20%)

Should the starting weight be okay at 12oz, or should I consider changing this to 6oz and start heating at 18oz instead for an hour of heated hanging? (plan4?)
8 mins @ 6oz/170g - cold
8 mins @ 12oz/340g - cold
20 mins @ 18oz/510g - heat on, building up to MAX (102 to 110 F)
20 mins @ 24oz/680g - heat
20 mins @ 30oz/850g - heat
15 mins @ 36oz/1020g - cool down (~20%)

I think both plans look ok as a starting point. Measure your strain before and after to see how affective the plan is and adjust from there