Vacuum hanging confusion

Takes me 1-2min to put on my max-vac and I use one sleeve directly on the penis and two sleeves to create the seal. Since the Vac-Hanger only has 1 sleeve it should go on even faster. Also, I started hanging for 1hour the very first time I hung, (I used light weight!), and had very little fluid build up.

If one hang with light weights and make sure little to no foreskin gets on the inside the vacuum container, there should be very little fluid build up.

I should also add that I had been using a vacuum ads for a couple of months before I started hanging with the max-vac. I see no problem with hanging up to one hour but you have to keep the weight down.

mgus,

Then also consider that with HTW’s, wrapping is done quickly and once only, always good and ready for a days work.

rm

real,

fair enough. But I still don’t see how conventional hangers would be faster, except possibly the Redi-Stretcher (which I have not tried).

See you at OK Corral in the sunset - hangers a’blazin!

mgus,

It’s quite possible I’ll have to come with another trick up my sleeve to the showdown, but I’ll say before you do me in, that the with HTW’s, the quickness issue is now on a mostly cosmetic level for me; much due to never having to do it twice from messing up with the tightness.

rm

Sparkyx: I hope you’ll post a link to the easy-to-apply hanger you’re talking about.

Mgus: What takes me a long time is not the putting on, but the taking off. Rolling the silicone sleeve up and over the glans cap is tricky, especially (I think) with the large size cap. Maybe I just need more practice.

I also find it difficult to apply an HTW. It’s like putting on a condom while you’re flaccid. I often end up pinching my glans trying to get a grip.

Modesto,

have a look for Sparkyx posts in mbuc’s thread “Stretcher pictures”. The drawback with his rig, as I see it, is finding a suitable seal, that will go from wide pill bottle past small neck and out on shaft. Never understood how he managed it.

When I take off the Vac-Hanger, I don’t roll the seal up again - I open the top of the seal over the vacuum hole and just pull it off. Takes 2 seconds on average.

The answer is just start the seal on the neck! For me a inner tube section, folded back, forms a great seal.

Those new sleeves would work great for everyone.

I’m gonna try and attach photos…wish me luck!

Let me try again.

In that last picture, is that the seal at the bottom there? It looks like the entire pillbottle is coated in inner tube in the other pics?

Out of curiosity, what is the inner diameter of the neck and the main part of the pill bottle?

No, its a brown vitamin bottle. Only the neck has inner tube on it.

The neck is about 1 1/2” diameter, and the seal brings it in to about 1”.

The neck is where a screw on top went, so it has the threads…which act perfectly to hold the inner tube seal…never slips off.

So, I think the ideal design would keep it the same, just use the new sleeves either straight or doubled back to form a lip like I have.

For guys that need a smaller diameter to keep the seal, just use the sleeve unfolded.

The tube has a aquarium air valve which I attach a longer tube to, open the valve and suck a vacuum with to draw the penis into the chamber with ease.

When I’m done, open the valve and pull out…works great and quickly.

The valve set up allows me to use my vacuum pump if I chose, and I have used it to measure the vacuum generated by 2.5 lbs hanging off of it, 5 lbs etc.

If I choose, I can use it as a glans expander all by itself, not using any wt, just a vacuum, set to what ever level I choose by using the pump with the gauge.

The larger chamber allows even pull on the glans, even lets it expand nicely so it acts as a head enlarger. It is very comfortable and if lymph migrates…its to the entire glans.

To wear in under pants for ADS, you could just use a rubber band and attach the hose to the bottle so it isn’t hanging down.

I have brass couplings for both the bolt ( to hang wt from) and the air tube. They are fastened with brass nuts on the inside and sealed with silicon gel…corrosion proof and very sturdy.

The biggest problem now is getting the right type of plastic for the bottle. All I can find now is a softer, flexible plastic, whereas this bottle is very rigid.

If you see a bend in the bottle, its where I had it too close to my IR light and it melted a little. :)

Sparkyx,

Thanks for posting the pics. Could you please explain a little more how the innertube works and how a seal is formed with the penis? This was the hard part of using Monkeybar’s device. When removing the hanger, one must roll the silicone sleeve up and over the shoulder of the glans piece. How do you avoid that here?

The inner tube is fairly firm, so it maintains its shape and position.

It acts as a soft extender of the rim of the neck to make contact with the penis and ensure a seal.

I need to get at least semi erect for it to work really well and not leak while swinging the wts.

Vacuum hangers tend to cause a partial erection anyway, and I prefer to swing the wts with a partial erection anyway because of the girth gains it causes.

The mechanism of this is very much like erect bends. Like a combination of pumping, hanging and erect bends.

If using the sleeve, and if you have a smaller girth,or stay flaccid, you could use the sleeve unfolded, and let it extend down farther on the shaft, that should seal nicely.

Especially those new sleeves, real soft and flexible.

When done, just take the bottom part of the sleeve and fold it up on itself toward the neck, and leave it there until you use it again.

When you use it again, just place the glans against the opening, create a vacuum to draw the penis in, then unfold the sleeve to full length, which would then create a good seal.

Like I said, I folded the inner tube sleeve up on itself creating a nice permanent seal that works great for me, and is very tough but does the job.

If it ever gets too stiff to work, I’ll just cut another 2-3 inch section of inner tube, pull it onto the threads of the bottle, then fold 1/2 of it back onto itself and anchor it on the threads.

During the development of Vac-hanger, I tried several shapes, including - / \, | |, \ /

As I understand, sparkyx, you think \ / shape is better for hanging. Based on my testing, yes it does hold the penis better - if you didn’t have a good silicone to hold them. With \ / shape, I found that fluid build up is concentrated on the tip, while most of the pressure is concentrated near the bottom of penis head (/ \ shape was worst in comparison). Granted, with heavy weight, the fluid buildup is about equal for all shapes, but with | | shape - I found that weight is fairly well distributed.

The reason why I went with | | shape is the sleeve. Because sleeve is very capable, the shape didn’t matter in terms of holding power. Since that is eliminated, I went with | | shape as it provided more even pressure distribution. With \ / shape, after hanging with heavy weight, the fluid buildup was much higher.

I”ve originally thought / \ (tapered toward the top) was the best because I thought that would minimize the fluid buildup (smaller top will constrict theory), but it didn’t turn out that way. The shape actually caused more fluid buildup on the tip. The / \ was the worst shape for vacuum hanging.

Again, I’ve only tested few days each, so it might not be that accurate, but that’s what I found when I did the test.

No…this shape is best.

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That is a larger chamber, with a smaller neck, just like a vitamin bottle (which it is).

The neck makes it easy to seal around the shaft, and the chamber is large enough to allow expansion of the head in all directions eliminating fluid build up in any one spot.

I draw a vacuum by mouth or pump,which pulls the penis into the bottle. I stop when I feel my glans touch the top, then I shut the valve.

Takes 3 seconds. When done, open the valve and pull out…2 seconds.

I use a light film of lubrication, makes the insertion and withdrawal a smooth process.

Okay, now I understand. The smaller part is just the opening.

I guess, my sleeve does that function. As its put on, the opening conform to diameter of the user. So its same thing, in a sense (sleeve get sucked in a bit also).