Why not start off hanging

I am wondering why one would not start off hanging if hanging is believed to yeild the best gains and newbie gains are supposedly the easiest to achieve, then why not start off hanging while in the newbie stage?

I’m sure there is a logical answer to this, but I haven’t come across it. This only makes sense to me. I understand that the newbie routine is designed by vets and allows individuals to get into PE shape. What I don’t understand is why go through that then when you start hanging you have to condition your member to the stresses and start with low weights. This also causes your unit to get into PE shape.

One of the only reasons I could think of is that a newbie starting to hang may go overboard really fast and increase the weight to the point of injury.

There is a learning curve with hanging, as well as the issue of equipments which must be made by hand (homebrewed) or purchased and delivered (money and privacy). Generally it is like upgrading a power train on a car or truck. You want to do the simple inexpensive stuff first such as cold air induction and exhaust, before cracking open the motor. Plus a few people found ungodly gains from simple jelqing alone.

But would following the hanger’s routine and increasing weights over time. Then finally stopping hanging when you’ve completed the hanger’s routine and then going for newbie routine is not a bad thing either right?

I feel that the in either routine there would be a learning curve. You have to understand what your unit is telling you in both routines.

If money is not an issue then this is not a deterrent. Also what could be more simple than putting a hanging device around your unit and suspending weight from it. This does seem easier than doing the manual jelq which the amount of force used may not be consistant throughout the entire exercise.

If you think you’re more likely to stick to a hanging routine than a manual routine, I agree it’d be fine to start with, as long as you don’t try heavy weights or long sets any time soon.

I started my PEing with hanging. I probably would have gotten too bored if I couldn’t multitask with my PEing.

I heard people complain that learning to wrap and not have pain or be utterly ineffective was a bitch for them.

Some people are old school and just do all the handwork and don’t believe in gadgets really. I don’t subscribe to that really, I just try and spend my money a bit more frugally at first. At my age and health the spending sprees on whatever slowly sink in from my youth now.

Generally your criteria of how much time you have to use, space, privacy and expense should be looked at. If you work from home at a desk answering phones in utter privacy, hang all you can then. But that isn’t the case for everyone.

I think a common misconception is that hanging is more advanced or dangerous compared to manual PE. However, in theory, done correctly, it is simple and less dangerous as you can control the force applied in hanging, yet how much force was applied by manual stretching?

I’m new to hanging after 3-4 or so months on the newbie routine.

What I can say is in this inital week I’ve found hanging more “fiddly” than I expected. Hanging certainly requires you to read and know what you are doing. It also requires quite a skill to get use to in terms of wrapping and applying the hanger. In addition, it requires restraint in your progress to avoid injury and real dedication.

If you hang 7 days per week and for the suggested 10 hours, you need to be doing 1.30hr per day of pure hanging. Now consider you need 10 minutes break between sessions. That is you need a pure 2hrs per day minimum in which to hang. This needs to go on many months. So many people don’t have the private time or dedication to give that amount of time to PE.

Well said Ruz_ ! That was a great post. :thumbs:

I was lead to believe by members on this board that hanging is a more advanced form of PE. I appreciate your input as it has shed some light on the issue for me. I’m sure there are others out there which will say that hanging is an advanced form of PE and I would love to hear their side.

I enjoy the how hanging allows me to do more than just sit around and watch tv. The ability to get some work done while performing a PE exercise is great.

Hanging is an advanced form of PE :) .

I’ve just started as well and it can get pretty intense, especially if you don’t get the hanger on just right (actually very hard to do!). After a couple months of this I can’t imagine getting much gains out of the newbie routine, because I’m sure my ligs will be pretty conditioned.

Personally, I would definitely go the cheap, not time intensive way first before going to hanging.

Hello RandomGiant, This is the first time that I’ve heard anyone say that hanging will decrease the gains that you get from a newbie routine. Can you please explain to me how that happens? Also what do you think about doing light hanging and ads along with the newbie routine?

Okay, so what I’ve read about hanging is that usually most people don’t get significant gains until hanging at higher weights. I guess this is because their ligs are already pretty conditioned from PE and they need a certain level of tissue deformation/stress to make gains. I don’t know how this would affect a newbie who is unconditioned.

What I am saying is that a newbie can definitely get gains from the newbie routine because they are completely unconditioned, after hanging their ligs will be tough and more unwilling to yield gains, especially from the newbie routine. Personally I think it makes sense to work your way up, there have been many people who have been extremely successful with manual PE. Para-Goomba is right, definitely stay away from high weights as a newbie, not just for safety reasons, but your ligs will also toughen up much quicker. I guess either way would be fine, but I still think it’s best to start with jelqing and stretching.

I think the reasons why hanging is considered advanced have been outlined above, but let’s recap: It is time consuming, requires an investment in equipment, and there is a learning curve for how to use the equipment properly. The Newbie routine and other manual routines, on the other hand, can be easily done in a half hour to 45 minutes—easier to find time and privacy and totally free. There is also the logic of taking advantage of whatever newbie gains you can get from an easy manual routine before moving on to other methods. One additional benefit, in my view, of the Newbie routine is that helps you to get to know your unit and get a sense of your PIs.

Nevertheless, as para-goomba and others have said, if you really want to get straight into hanging despite all of the above, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t.

Hanging requires privacy, yes, but I would dispute the time investment part. If you’re someone whose occupation or leisure involves reading or using a computer for at least an hour or two a day — and this time can be spent in privacy — the only time investment with hanging is taking the hanger on and off for breaks, which amounts to a few minutes total once one is experienced. It’s precisely because of time investment concerns that I preferred hanging as my PE method. (I can’t see myself staying consistent with any routine that required me to pay exclusive attention to my dick for more than a few minutes a day.) Pumping has similar advantages (at least if one doesn’t attempt to stay erect in the pump), though there’s also the cleanup time and messiness factor in that case.

If I could go back to a total PE start again knowing what I know now I think this is what I would do. First I would only lightly stretch and do maybe 50 jelqs every 2 to 3 days and then use my static stretcher or a JCS type extender with a vac attachment head on it for 12 to 16hrs per day at low tension. As soon as gains stopped I would take a month off. Would this work? I don’t know but I sure think it would.