Bathmate pump, Beginner PE, Questions

None of us know where we’ll be in six months that’s true but my point is PE is not based on months but years. If you have a goal of say 1 inch in six months your setting yourself up for failure. I don’t want you do fail none of us here do that’s why we’re here, to help one another succeed. Sure there’s some trolls here but we ignore them and eventually they go away.

Yes results vary from person to person but your EG isn’t big enough to pack a BM so length gains won’t come your way using it. Girth yes, length I can confidently say no.

Well I started at similar measurements as you and I made the mistake of going all in on devices. I would say do as many stretches as you can thru out the day for length and if you already have the BM then use it, depending on your conditioning level you can use it twice a day 15-20 mins each set. You can also try clamping it’s intense but great for girth, I also find it feels awesome. Use caution and all that.

I have a goal of 1 inch in the year 2018. Who knows if it will happen and if it doesnt im not crushed or anything BUT im the type of person i need a clear goal and a plan to achieve it otherwise i dont get things done.

I’ve had a goal of 1 inch of length since the beginning…..that was almost 3 years ago. Sooooooo

Im curious what is your routine?

Hitting The Reset Button

This is a run down of my journey, I’ll be hanging again after New Years.

So I’m getting a lot of different pieces of advice. Some saying to get a BM and some not to.

Bearing in mind that girth is something I want to focus on and improve the most.

What would you suggest that I could do with or without the BM? I’m really not opposed to doing some kind of combination of Jelqs, stretches and the BM. From what I’ve heard, the Bathmate seems to be a good idea for me and my goals. But I’m not as well versed in all this as everyone here

I’d say do a 30 minute manual routine with focus on stretches and some jelqs before jumping in the shower and start pumping with your BM.

I’ve used both air pumps and a BM and IMO the BM is much better. No fluid build up despite me pumping until there’s no more water coming out(some people on here say it’s a bad idea but then the producers says it’s the way to actually do it), no discoloration or EQ issues and a longer and fuller hang for around 48 hours afterwards and I’ve only used the BM for 3- 4 weeks.

In some months these gains will become real and cemented and I can get away with using the BM for as little as 2- 3 times a week to keep my gains till the day I die.

And since it’s girth you’re looking for the BM will most certainly help you with that. I’ve read so many positive experiences with this product and most people that have bought one seems very, very satisfied with the product and they have all gained both length and girth so this pump ain’t no hype shit.

It’s basically a ‘supercharged’ pump due to the water and the extra vacuum it provides in the tube.

What I’m saying in short is; yes, go for the BM as I can damn near guarantee you won’t be disappointed by the immediate results you’ll get in no time. At least that’s mine and many others experiences.

So, I could do something like this?
5 minute hot wrap warm up.
5 minute Stretching (up, down, left, right)
5-10 minute Wet Jelqs (resting as and when I need to, 30-60 seconds?)

Then use the BM
5 minutes on, let it relax, then repeat for a total of 3 rounds.

Then some more gentle stretching and perhaps another hot wrap to cool down.

And then incorporate Kegals somewhere

It seems that hydro pumps seem to counter fluid buildup because the water doesn’t allow your unit to over expand and allow fluid buildup to creep in (The Physics of Water Pumping) that said, I still think many bathmate users are using too much pressure on a regular basis because of the lack of a gauge. My point earlier in saying that the x30 gets 17hg with a perfect seal is that even without a perfect seal pumping to the max seems like it could easily reach 10hg+ which while it won’t necessarily cause injury, may not be conducive to gains in the long term.

My thinking is if you are able to get gains with say 5hg but jump to 10hg right away, you’ll still get gains but your penis will get toughened by the sudden increase of pressure. So you’ll need more and more pressure to induce gains and if your pump is already maxxed out, what then?

I like to Kegal in the BM and spread them throughout my routine as well as reverse Kegal in the BM (at a low pressure).

Your routine seems like a good starter routine to incorporate the BM and just remember it’s okay to adjust your routine as you go. Like I said earlier my biggest recommendation with the BM is to start out veeerrrrry slow because you’ll almost certainly be able to handle a max pump after the first week or two, but you’ll probably be able to coax gains with significantly less pressure.

So you’re suggesting less is more?

And what sort of pressure should I be expecting to use at the start? Also, how would I know when I’m using too much?

The BM pressure is way too high as velhung said.

I started with the BM when I came back to PE and it was a blessing and a curse. A blessing because I got immediate temporary gains, a curse because I got addicted to those temporary gains. Toughening up my dick is exactly what it did. I later got an air pump and used the BM in conjunction with it.

Wouldn’t combining the BM with manual exercises result in those temporary gains becoming more permanent as time got on? Maybe the BM would even become abit of a ‘trick’ to stay motivated, as you can see good gains within a few weeks? And besides, if you stuck with a routine for a few months (ie 6 months), would it not end with a good permanent result anyway?

I think most people agree that the BM shouldn’t be used by itself. But would you say it’s a useful tool? Or is it just good for temporary gains?

Alright so in summary, does everyone think this is a half decent routine to do that would maximise permanent results within the next 6 months or so?

1 day on / 1 day off (2 days off if need be)

Manual:
5 minute Stretching (up, down, left, right)
5-10 minute Wet Jelqs (resting as and when I need to, 30-60 seconds?)
BM:
5 minutes on, let it relax, then repeat for a total of 3 rounds.

While incorporating Kegals (using the app most likely)

Cool down (Stretching + hot wrap)

Or should I adjust it?

Here’s the video I mentioned earlier in the thread of the x30 being capable of 17hg of pressure

To answer your question about whether using manual stretches would promote permanent gains this is a neat thread that helped me in forming routines Understanding force thresholds for growth

Basically if you max out the pressure on the bathmate right away, it’s very likely you will see results. That said, if you max out the pressure the way your penis will respond is by "toughening" to be more resistant to future pressures. What that means for you as far as PE goes is that you would continuously need more and more force to see comparable results, and as a newbie this is not the best route because you might still have some "easy" gains left.

I’m still in the early stages of my BM ownership so I’m hesitant to give opinions on what kind of results it can give in the long term, but definitely take what kingscounty said to heart.

To start out I would use as few pumps as possible to seal it to your body and maybe do a few small pumps to slowly increase pressure while you’re in it. My general rule of thumb is to never pump over 1/3 of the possible pressure because I figure 17/3 is about 5.6hg which seems to be around what a lot of air pumpers use as a max. The way I have started to use it is just barely get it sealed to my body, let it sit for a minute or two, and slowly start to kegel.

When I saw barely sealed I mean I have to hold it in place but there is certainly pressure inside the tube. I kegel until my length extends further and then let it sit, I’m still flaccid but you will be able to see that it’s getting "pulled" by the pressure, then I slowly add small pumps but making sure I’m not going over 1/3 max compression. When I say small pumps I’m literally pushing the lightest amount possible to barely make any water come out just so I have the slightest increase in pressure. I’m usually in the tube for 5-10 minutes at a time and I don’t think I’ve exceeded 20 total minutes in a day since I’ve gotten it.

I might be paranoid about it but I think that a lot of BM users don’t see permanent results because they are using much too much pressure because even though the unit is such a good concept it’s poorly designed as far as PE is concerned. A good rule of thumb is if you feel any strain in a BM you are definitely overdoing it.

Lastly be careful when you’re finishing up with the BM and you are decompressing the chamber, don’t let all of the pressure out in one quick burst.

Sorry for so many longwinded answers I just feel like there’s not a lot of really honest things out about the BM. Your routine looks good and the 1 on 1 off schedule seems reasonable. I like to use the app when I’m not using the BM because I’m usually in the shower or bath, you can usually work out good kegel routines on your own in the BM going off of how it feels after you get the motion down.

Good luck!

Alright so, going to purchase the Bathmate x40 soon.

So you say that you adjust to the pressure, what would happen if you bought a bigger version? Or use a product from their x-treme range? This is once you’re adjusted and “stalled” due to becoming conditioned?

I’m not going to say I know everything, but using some of my limited experience doing Gym type activities, surely their must be some kind of variation that would allow you to continue progressing? Increasing the time in the pump or increasing the amount of sets you do instead of increasing the pressure, that kind of thing.