Bathmate pump, Beginner PE, Questions

Why the x40? You don’t have the girth for it. That’s another issue with the BM is the sizing. I’m 6 inches MEG after I pump or clamp and my BM with a hand pump I think that the x30 hardcore or some shit and I can’t pack it.

Yes manuals will help your routine but I still think you should either get a knock off BM (because the BM is way overpriced) or try air pumping first. My opinion is air pumping is better but again that’s my opinion and our dick are all different.

I know what the BM did for me and none of it was permanent. Going back I wish I never wasted the money on not just one but two.

If you feel strongly about pumping and if you do I get it because I do too, check out some of the vet pumpers here……..thoughtful, gprent, titleist and others. One thing they all have in common is air pumping and manuals or variations of the two.

Congrats! I certainly think it’s a worthwhile investment if you don’t rush

If you were to go the route of buying a bigger version it could in theory lead to some slightly faster short term gains, but my point about future gains diminishing due to tissue toughening remains the same. On top of that I think the x-treme range goes to 20hg+ (I might be wrong on that) which would leave you with no ability for future pumping gains until you take a huge deconditioning break.

Even then, if you’ve subjected your anatomy to such high pressures you would certainly have to resort to more and more intense exercises at a more and more rapid rate especially if you aren’t taking decon breaks. This is the main thing I’m trying to help you avoid with these longwinded explanations hahaha sorry if it’s been painful but I think you’ve got it.

For the latter half of your question, absolutely correct. My main point is if you increase your time or reps at low pressures instead of immediately trying to up the pressure, it seems like there are gains to be had that you might miss if you rush. That’s why I was being so painfully specific with explaining to try not to pump over 1/3 of the total way in the tube because you might unknowingly toughen your unit which is what I’m pretty sure I did upon receiving my BM (and is subsequently leading me to a month+ deconditioning break.) Like I said earlier it’s very easy to want to max out the pressure to see how you measure in the tube but use your train of thought with “more time/sets less pressure” and who knows, you might get some good results in the long term from it.

Listen to what your anatomy tells you, it’ll give much better advice than a rando on the internet. I hope some of what I’ve said makes sense and helps.

I think it’s because of the length factor, I’ve heard that at around 7.5-7.75 you get pinching issues with the x30

I’ve heard of very few people packing BM’s because I think with the x40 you’d need 8” girth to do. Based off of that water pumping thread I linked earlier the size of the tube seems to have more leeway because your anatomy is pushing against the water which is giving a similar effect as pushing out against the glass in an air pumping scenario. (I might be wrong but that was my interpretation)

Your advice to check out air pumpers is definitely sound and I might do so. Would you be able to describe your experience with BM and maybe talk about the routines you were using?

Exactly, as long as you keep on doing your manuals before entering the BM I can’t see the gains just coming to a hault.

Also what you do is up the time you stay in the BM, when I first started I also did 3x3 minutes then gradually increasing it to now basically staying in it for 15- 20 minutes straight and I’m still getting bigger inside the tube.

No fluid build up, a fuller and longer hang all day and if you feel like you’ve come to a hault gains wise just take a week or two off to decondition then restart the gaining process. And people saying it’s too much pressure pumping all the water out I just don’t get as I’ve never even experienced something even close to pain or discomfort and I’ve pumped it all out from the very beginning.

And yes, I find it a very, very useful tool as my dick hangs in a longer and fuller state after finishing my manuals and my pumping. Also I’ve gained a little over 1/4 of an inch since starting using it and I as recent as yesterday measured some small, but still, new gains.

Forgot to mention I’ve read several accounts even including one from the site I bought it from of people using the x30 but then after months of use having to upgrade to the x40 due to size increases. And from what the guy on the site where I purchased it was writing it seemed that he used the BM only.

On a side note, when you start off you go in it limp then after some weeks to a month start going in with an erection as you’ll be conditioned enough for it by then.
But take it easy in the beginning and go by how your unit feels inside the tube to prevent any form of injuries.

Alright so, my base girth is about 5.0-5.5. I think I’m going to get the X30, it’s cheaper, and my NBPEL is slightly less than 7”. Figure the BM doesnt push into your pubic bone too much.

Yeah I’m definitely going to go crazy slow into it. Something like 3x3 (Like Abdiel said), then just increase it by a minute a week until 3x5. Then I’ll start going into it erect for a few weeks. See what happens.

And to be honest, even if the BM doesn’t bring permanent results, I think everyone can agree it gives pretty good temporary gains, better EQ and it sounds like you’d have good recovery for the manual work as it brings new fresh blood into the penis. Either way, I’d like to give it a shot, maybe it’ll even give me abit of motivation to make those temporary gains become real, solid gains.

Going to order it and start this in a few days.

Seems like you’ve got the right mindset for using the BM, and YES it most definitely improves both your EQ and size(had raging wood last night and that’s after a longer session with it).

The x30 will be just perfect for you as I’m about the same size as you NBPEL and there is still some room for growth in it as you can go as long as to 8,5” in the tube, according to the producers of BM.

I’m always hitting over 7” in the tube and starting to slowly but surely going up to about 7,5” as I’m going over the 18 cm mark on the tube as well. It’s both cm/inch marks on the outside of the tube so you’ll know it when you’re over 7” inside it.

I’m using it basically every day now and have yet to experience any negative side effects from this much of a frequent use. It’s quite addicting to be honest, lol.

What would happen if you built up to a decent volume and intensity, then started to slowly decrease the intensity and volume of the BM use while replacing it with manual work? Would you adjust to the temporary size you had with the BM on a permanent basis? Or would you be losing the BM gains entirely?

Just in theory, I’m curious what would actually happen

This is a hard question to answer because neither BM pressures, nor manual forces, are quantifiable. Seems like a reasonable train of thought though.

When you’re satisfied with the gains you’ll get from your BM you can get away with using it only a couple of times a week to keep what it has gotten you, as in keeping it longer and fuller that way all the time.

This is what I’ve read from more experienced user than myself and by using it like that, for maintenance, most claim to keep 90-100% of their gains as after 3- 4 months of use you’ll pretty much have cemented those BM gains.

If I, when having reached my goal can get away with using it only for couple of times a week it’s a price I’m more than willing to pay. Besides that it’s really good for ones libido as well and we ain’t exactly getting younger so it’s healthy for your penis to do a actual maintenance routine.

I posted my experience back a couple pages in my progress report. But in case it’s not completely there on my BM use, in the beginning I used the Hercules as recommended by BM 3x5 mins. That broke, couldn’t get a replacement or even an email back from BM but I was completely addicted to the temp gained so I bought the x30 with the hand pump and it came with a cheap extender. I used both about 5 days a week, the extender was a bad experience, all I got was fluid build up and more of a foreskin. Stuck to the BM with some manuals mixed in such as stretching (not nearly enough) and jelqing in between sets to get hard. I eventually went up to two cycles a day of 15- 20 mins. Again the gains I got were great but they didn’t stick. It wasn’t until after I listened to vets here and got an air pump that my gains started to stick. After the new year I plan on going back to hanging with girth maintenance mixed in. My dick is too tough now, I didn’t listen about using the BM and now it makes little difference doing a decon ( I’ve taken almost 2 months off before) because I choice to go crazy with devices instead of my two hands. So for me to get that 1/2- 1 inch in length I so desperately want it’s going to take hanging as that seems to be the only thing now that gives me length gains. The problem is sticking to hanging. It’s a bitch!

The only thing your gonna get with an 8 in around opening is your balls being sucked in. No thanks! Don’t get something with that big of a tube even if you use the comfort ring plus the black cushion thing they sell to prevent ball sucking. Trust me I’m talking from experience.

Again this is my experience and we aren’t all going to have the same outcome. I can do things other can’t like hang for 6 sets at 20 mins and then do a girth routine after and still fuck like rabbit that night. Some else would most likely get an injury from that. I’m not trying to put the BM down I do think it has its place, it’s been discussed here too many times.

I guess the entire journey of PE is to find what works and what doesnt, no ones built the same, so there wouldn’t be a routine that works for everyone.

Either way, going to get the X30 tomorrow, see if it works for me. Hopefully it will.

That’s the one constant in PE

Very correct, it’s very much a journey of trial and error but both air pumps and the BM are a pretty safe bet to start gaining.

Hope you’ll be as satisfied with the product as I am, if not more. If that’s possible that is, lol. Must also say that if you use it correct you’ll pretty much be hanging longer and fuller than before within a few days of proper use. And having a bigger flaccid is very often a good sign of actual erect gains to come in my experience.