Going Backwards With Pumping

I’ve been pumping for 5 months now. I increased so I now pump for 20 minutes, 5 minutes rest, 20 minutes, 5 rest, 20 minutes. I do this 5 days a week. The first 20 minutes I keep pressure slightly below -5. The second 20 minutes I increase pressure to -5. The last 20 minutes I will increase pressure to -10 for a few seconds, then back down to -5. I’ll do that 10 times spaced throughout that final 20 minutes.

When I first built up to the longer sessions I started to fill out the tube more and more. I also saw some length gains. However, in the past month I appear to have lost both girth and length. I no longer fill out the tube at all and I can’t get to within 1/4” of what I use to routinely get for length.

Obviously this is very discouraging. I did the beginners routine when I started my PE jourey and saw no gains from it. Now I have been pumping for 5 months, saw glimmers of hope, and now am moving in the wrong direction.

I’m not ready to give up, but need some encouragement and guidance.

Are you using constant heat? Try doing just three days a week and stay away from the higher vacuum levels.

Yes, I am using heat.

Take more days off and lower the time for each set.

Getting negative results with any kind of PE is a sure sign of going overboard. It could be using too much force, or having too long a routine, or not taking rest days, or a combination of some or all of these. Trying to go fast with PE just doesn’t work. Success takes time and patience.

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, I will just add that check your daily routine (stress level) and the diet, if everything is the same since starting PE, then listen to these two pros here.

Im calling it over training… when i first started body building, eating enough calories/protien and gained that first 10 lbs of lean muscle i was hooked!!! I then did what many do and started working out longer, harder and more often… short of the story, i never sermed to get over the soreness, stayed tired and did experience muscular atrophy and weight loss… sll classic signs of over training…

This is just a guess tough…

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Ok fair enough, i apologize that i dident dig deep into my second language “English”, before i made the post… I am sorry but i was just trying to share with a mate something that might help him… i however get it, rules and guidelines are just that… im a guest here and sorry for any offences, but agaun English is my second language among 4… happy holidays mate…

20 minutes every other day at 5 inHg vacuum seems to be the ideal for growth, at least as far as I’ve experimented.

1 hour pumping sessions are pleasurable and get me a little more length temporarily, but have been counter productive for growth in my experience.

Thank you to those that chimed in. It seems unanimous that others think it is over training and I will course correct. Just a little bit of my thinking - I’ve read a lot of the material on this site, including the pumping section. To me, it seemed like I was slowly building up my time and pressure over several months. I haven’t gotten any negative EQ issues.

A question I have is: What is happening? How do I lose girth and length from pumping? I understand the physiology behind over training in weight lifting or an endurance sport, but this, to me at least, isn’t logical.

Bottom line, I will take everyone’s recommendation and cut back on time and pressue. Thank you for the advice.

Any overtraining or stress or stimulation of any kind is cumulative without sufficient recovery.

When you push the pressure up to 10 inhg, that is you likely problem. Keep your max pressure at 5 for a while, but always start your routine at lower pressure and step your way up.

When collagen is deformed through excessive stretching, various mechanisms contract the tissue and enzymes then join polymers of collagen to the collagen matrix in the contracted form.

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That’s why PI are so important. Too much is counter productive. The question we all have to answer correctly to make continued PE progress is what is too much and what is too little?: what works, what doesn’t, and what is counter productive?

Pumping is tricky buisness, in a 15 minute set, how long do you stay under -3, -4 then -5, or what is the ramp up.

I got red spots last session I think I may be pumping up too fast… ?