Noobie Pumper Q&A: Invictus... From "Pump" to "Plump."

Hey guys, if you don’t know me I am Invictus and have mild experience with PE. I am currently on a decon break and almost done with it. When I resume my PE, I want it to be with Pumping. I do not have any experience with pumping but am very interested in it and want to begin doing. I have read many of the big articles on pumping, and posts by Avocet, GPrent and StaKool, among others. I will be ordering a pump very soon, within the next week or so, and have a few questions, if anyone can help me answer them, that would be appreciated.

1. I have a very sensitive unit; I have over-exercised and possibly causd a venous leak or so. I am not sure, but I do know I injured it mildly, sometime ago. I am looking for a light workout, but effective and efficient. The Bathmate sounds like a great pump…A water pump, easy to use, and with heat sounds great. But is this a noobie pump, something I should be messing with, since I have no experience with pumping? Or should I stick with the traditional air pump, until I get the feel. I will only be getting one, I don’t see myself ordering both.

2. I want to pump for length, EQ, and a healthier penis. Girth last. Right now I am about 5.25 NBPEL and 5.4~ish MSEG. But when I am on PE cycle, my girth jumps up from anywhere to 5.5” to 5.8”…So I don’t want girth, and I need length. Is pumping something thats going to do this? I have read people have gained length from pumping. I just don’t want to increase my girth while NOT increasing length, which in turn makes it harder for me to gain length. Any thoughts?

3. With my given measurements above, what is a good size cylinder for me?

4. I like jelqing, but I feel its hard for me to be consistent. I have strong hands and forearms from hardcore drumming from earlier years, and I exert too much pressure. Pumping sounds great, “consistent.” How many of you stopped jelqing completely, or just stopped jelqing AS MUCH when you began pumping? I still intend to jelq thought, just not as frequently.

Thanks for all the help. You can read my pumping progress in the thread that is in my signature, titled “True Life.”

Invictus…”From Pump to Plump”

Although pumping will give you gains in all directions, girth is more targeted just from the simple fact that there is more surface area on your cock that expands in the girth direction under vacuum pressure.

Since you are sensitive, you should definitely buy an air pump with a gauge, so you know exactly what you are doing. Your cylinder size should be 9”X2”. I recommend lapdist myself, because they have quality straight walled cylinders and an all metal vacuum pump. If you have indeed done a lot of reading them you know you can save some money by buying the individual components for several sources, but if you want to skip the hassle, just go straight to lapdist and order the equipment in the deluxe package but skip the video to save a few bucks.

I think we are somewhat similar in that regard. I think in a way we may be lucky because we may need less of a PE time commitment than others to see results.

Given what you say here, I agree with what gprent — start with the air pump with a gauge. The lapdist deluxe kit looks excellent if you want to get a turnkey system. I did buy my setup in parts, but it took more than a month to get everything in place — if I had to do it over again, it would have been nice to have something with everything I needed in one box.

Be sure follow the guidelines to getting acclimated as laid out in avocet8’s thread Vacuum Pumping 101

You could even do what I did — I cut avocet8’s recommended times in HALF when I first started pumping. And I also ended when I got to two sets of 10 minutes, as that seemed to be working pretty well for me. At some point I may add more time, but not yet.

So, for example, he says for the first week, do one set of ten minutes. I did one set of 5 minutes. And so on, and so on. I also started at 2.0HG or so. And ramped up to 3.0HG over time. I only go to 4HG for the last 5 minutes of my last set, something gprent recommended to me.

I think you will really like pumping. If nothing else I find it very calming and relaxing.

Thanks for the responses.

Sta-Kool; Yes I think I will order it as one whole, rather than parts. What is a turnkey system, by the way? I have read that thread, and actually printed the whole thread out and put in a binder, along with some other threads (the threads that I find most important and relevant). I read through them and highlight and make notes on all the points, which is useful.

So its possible to pump at 2 HG? Will these even make my penis erect/little larger than normal?

The link you provided with the Bathmate at only $119 does sound enticing though. Maybe i’ll get both.

The phrase means “turnkey system” basically means that you get everything in a single box from one company. Often used to refer to computers, for example — rather than getting parts and software from a bunch of different vendors, you get a computer that comes all set up and configured for your application from one company. That way if something goes wrong you only have to call one company, rather than several.

Yes you can pump at 1.5 or 2.0HG. I used that level just to help get acclimated to pumping. I mostly pump at 3, 3.5, and like I say at 4.0HG. Basically avoid discomfort.

Personlly I’d get the airpump only at first and then get the bathmate later if it still appeals to you. What if it turns out you don’t like pumping at all? Then you would have spent money of two devices you didn’t care for.

Good advice from sta-kool.

For that same reason, I’d go to EBay and get one of the Picturebrite packages with a pump that has a gauge. It’s the least expensive reputable product out there, and it will teach you a lot. Once you’ve had it and used it for a while, you can decide if you like pumping at all, and if you do, what you might do for your next cylinder and pump - what size and style.

http://shop.eba … nt/picturebrite

Good point, Lampwick. I have a 2" cylinder from picturebrite and I really like it.

If you don’t want to go through ebay, here is their store website:

Picture Brite Retail

You would be looking at "P134 - Jim Diamond Metal Hand Grip Pump w/guage & 2 inch cylinder" for $59.95.

My experience with them as a seller was very good.

That 134 looks like the perfect system for him. Is that 2” cylinder a straight wall? In other words, is the opening 2” or does it neck down to 1.75”/

I bought a larger (3”) cylinder for whole package pumping, and mine does neck down slightly at the opening.

Sta-kool provides you with a good option if you do not want to go through EBay. However, the EBay price is a little cheaper. I just checked, and right now the 2” cylinder with pump with a gauge is $54.85 with free shipping by First Class U.S. Mail.

Yes, it does neck down to 1.75” at the opening. The thickness of the neck/opening rim looks to be a little less than 1/8th of an inch.

My bostonpump standard-design cylinder is similar in the way it narrows at the opening, although the rim is thicker — they call that their “built in cockring”. That narrowing has been great for me in helping to get a good seal.

Is that cylinder working out okay for you for full package pumping? I am considering doing the same thing.

Ok guys, I appreciate the responses. Whats the difference in quality between the picturebright, Lapdist, and Bostonpumps? If I am going to buy a pump, i’m going to want it to be a good one, one that is durable and crafted well. If it doesn’t work out i’ll sell it. But I am pretty optimistic about pumping and I think that I will like it, versus clamping which is something I don’t want to think about right now.

If you were going to buy a la carte I think it would be worth it to buy the pump from Picture Bright instead of Harbor Freight, because it has all of the necessary hosing and male connector. Then you could select your favorite cylinder from where ever. I still like the heavy duty constant diameter lapdist cylinders.

There are two separate questions here really.

Pump:

Lapdist offers a metal pump with a gauge
Bostonpump offers a plastic pump with a gauge
Picturebrite offers a metal pump with a gauge that may or may not be the same unit as the lapdist one

Cylinder (gprent and lampwick please correct me if I am screwing up here):

Bostonpump offers cylinders in both flared neck and flatbend design (and some other styles too)
Picturebrite offers cylinders with a flared neck
Lapdist offers cylinders in a flatbend design

Essentially, the flared neck cylinders narrow at the opening, the flatbend ones don’t.

See these pictures:

Flared neck

Flat bend design:

I have a Boston flared design in 1.75" and a picturebright flared design cylinder in 2.0". Both are well constructed. I like the boston a little better because the neck is thicker than the picturebright. Just personal preference, you might think the opposite.

My pump is the Harbor freight brake bleeder pump. It is apparently exactly the same as the Lapdist pump:

Lap pump = harbor freight tools pump

Direct link:

Harbor Freight Tools – Quality Tools at Discount Prices Since 1977

It is an excellent heavy duty pump, again the same as the lapdist pump.

However, like gprent says, it does not come with the proper connector for penis pumping if you get it from Harborfreight — they are a tool and autoparts store.

There is some question as to whether the picturebrite pump is the same pump as the harborfreight and lapdist — while it looks the same, one Thunder’s member said in person it is not the same. However it does come with the hose connector you need and should it break, you can simply replace it with the harbor freight brake bleeder pump for $26.00.

I’m in the UK and ordered the VelSeal cylinders. Bought 2, a 2.00” and a 2.25”. What struck me about them was the silicone sleeve which attaches to the flared base. Prevents compression against the pubic bone, which according to the manufacturer avoids cutting off blood flow. These are very comfortable, and the quality of the tube is excellent.

Got a good service when buying. And they offer bespoke lengths.

I bought my pump separately here in the UK.

see them at pumptoys.com