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Pump then Viagra? Keep pumped size?

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While the Viagra will help you unit stay larger than normal, you will very likely not be sporting an erection or even close to one during that time. Viagra does not make your dick hard on it’s own. It requires that your body wants it to go hard first. Said differently, if you are turned on, more blood will be allowed to go into your unit and stay there easier.

Pump, then pop a Viagra (or pop it before) and if you want to maintain a near pumped size I do not believe Viagra is going to do the job for you unless you are stimulated (even just mentally) often enough to keep the body triggered. Depending on your age and other factors your mind might be triggering it often enough to keep it pretty plump, but, it is not a guaranteed outcome.

Originally Posted by Penox
I believe length gains are achieved through pumping also if the correct cylinder size is chosen.

Yes! Pumping is amazing. I believe choosing the correct cylinder size is extremely critical - previously, my length gains stopped once I moved up a size as it was slightly too large for me. I didn’t realize the relevance until I looked back at my log and tried to figure out what changed when I stopped making length gains suddenly.

Originally Posted by Laeh
While the Viagra will help you unit stay larger than normal, you will very likely not be sporting an erection or even close to one during that time. Viagra does not make your dick hard on it’s own. It requires that your body wants it to go hard first. Said differently, if you are turned on, more blood will be allowed to go into your unit and stay there easier.

Pump, then pop a Viagra (or pop it before) and if you want to maintain a near pumped size I do not believe Viagra is going to do the job for you unless you are stimulated (even just mentally) often enough to keep the body triggered. Depending on your age and other factors your mind might be triggering it often enough to keep it pretty plump, but, it is not a guaranteed outcome.

Correct. I could have found better ways to ask the question. What I am over all getting at is this.

If you can pump past your EL and EG measurements then take a Viagra, as in timing it to kick in during or right before your pump session is over. Then keep the erection through stimulation, or ballooning. My assumption would be rapid gains. With the number one factor being post EL & EG being larger then normal + ballooning.

Viagra only comes into the picture to “help” expand to full erection and make it easy to maintain for 2+ hours. If I tried this right now I would be ballooning with about 90% erection for most of the two hours. I would start off strong but probably couldn’t sustain it for 2 hours plus.

I have a huge chunk of vacation time in December. If I can talk my doc into a sample pack of viagra, and with my pump coming in shortly I can do a two week trail run. Although we wouldn’t know if the results are permanent we could see “even if temp” gains if the potential is there.


Starting Stats: BPEL = 5.875, EG = 4.375 <> Current Stats: BPEL = 7.25, EG = 4.6

I don’t think it will contribute to growth. Viagra helps to allow blood to more easily fill up your chambers to their normal maximum capacity. It does not force in more blood than your chambers can hold under normal circumstances. In other words, your chambers have a maximum capacity and Viagra will not assist in exceeding this capacity so there will be no stress on the cells to cause them to deform.

Originally Posted by djrobins
I tried this before with cialis. “Temp gains” would be held to a certain extent by the ED med. On me however, I hold some of the temp gains for a couple of hours after the session if I have sex by then.

So the answer is yes. Pumping and following a PE session with sex enhanced with an ED med, will allow you to have a larger than normal unit. Probably not the size you pumped out to, but larger than what you would normally measure with the ED med.

Another trick. I have a static stretcher with the vacuum head attachment. If I get oral while in the static stretcher, I will have a longer than normal erection. In my case where I tried this, the erection was notably longer possibly .5” but less than 1”, but skinner than normal.

I had thought of it being a normal way to “stage” an enhanced erection.

Is there a supplement instead of cialis or viagra I can take for my temp gains to stay for hours ? Just like when you just finished training at the gym.. There must be a solution or something cheaper.

Thanks

Originally Posted by usechen
Is there a supplement instead of cialis or viagra I can take for my temp gains to stay for hours ? Just like when you just finished training at the gym.. There must be a solution or something cheaper.

The Arginine alpha-ketoglutarate (AAKG) product you take to enhance your "Pumps" and Vascularity in the gym can probably help there too - I am talking about those NO (Nitric Oxide) products. AAKG is the main ingredient in those.

By the way you can get AAKG powder a lot cheaper than something link BSN NO-EXPLODE, etc.

What is AAKG?
http://www.musc leandbodymag.co … ?ArticleID=5138

Q: I read in “Master Class” about supplementing with arginine to significantly improve blood flow and muscle pumps. But when I went to purchase arginine, one of the sales people directed me to something called AAKG? What’s AAKG?

A: AAKG is an acronym for arginine alpha-ketoglutarate. It’s a form of arginine — specifically, two arginine molecules attached to an alpha-ketoglutarate molecule. Arginine is an amino acid and alpha-ketoglutarate is a form of another amino acid (a glutamine precursor), which may have a glutamine-sparing effect in muscle tissue, leading to more available glutamine. It’s believed that this formulation basically improves arginine’s absorption, thereby increasing your nitric-oxide (NO) production even more. As we know, arginine is a precursor of nitric oxide, which is responsible for vasodilation.

The benefits of AAKG are similar to those of arginine, mostly due to the increased NO production, which enhances blood flow to muscles and all parts of the body. Research shows that arginine helps improve recovery time while also improving symptoms of male infertility caused by erectile dysfunction.

Jacking up your nitric-oxide production delivers many advantages: It fights free radicals; helps sharpen the mind-muscle connection; supports the release of growth hormone; helps raise healthy cholesterol levels; and enhances fat metabolism, while also regulating the salt levels in the body. Quite a list of benefits.

To date, there is not an exact dosage directed by science for strength training. Many sports-nutrition manufacturers suggest a daily dose of 500–3,000 mg of a nitric oxide–boosting agent per day.

Before taking any supplementation, always consult your physician and use the product only as directed on the label.


Last edited by sta-kool : 12-31-2010 at .

Originally Posted by usechen
Is there a supplement instead of cialis or viagra I can take for my temp gains to stay for hours ? Just like when you just finished training at the gym.. There must be a solution or something cheaper.

Thanks


I have had great success with a supplement called Maxidus. I have ED, but with Maxidus I can maintain a thicker cock for up to three hours or more.

Any update with your results? Were your temp gains able to last??

2 more questions:

1. When do you all pop a Viagra? Is it right before you begin to pump? An hour before? Or in the morning? (Speaking about a 100 mg Viagra pill)

2. If you take alcohol with Viagra, does it diminish it’s effects?

I've done it

Not advise you to do this.
Did it twice already and my cock was huge when I was having sex with the girl, and she was amazed the day, but after that day in that part of my penis appeared ME TD spots “small disruptions of the blood vessels, ” I find it very risky do you do that.

Thrive been happy with those spots that appear on my penis, although it has not affected the quality of my erection.

Beware of penis explosion or heart attack :p .

Originally Posted by carlos_labrada
Not advise you to do this.
Did it twice already and my cock was huge when I was having sex with the girl, and she was amazed the day, but after that day in that part of my penis appeared ME TD spots “small disruptions of the blood vessels, ” I find it very risky do you do that.

Thrive been happy with those spots that appear on my penis, although it has not affected the quality of my erection.

carlos - She like it more?

Originally Posted by djrobins
Carlos - She like it more?

I liked it a lot more hehehe, but I will say it was my second experience with Viagra and my heart beat very strong that day, my sight grew dim I was alarmed as hell.
The moment she saw, she asked: “What have you been doing?
Our this massive, when you see it, I notice that it gave the pupil but may have been skipped my mind at the time of sex, it causes a fetish I guess, in our minds and in the female mind.


I'm from Brazil , now I have practiced only jelq + stretching + ADS (12h per day, when I can)

I'm interested in knowing more about Chemical Penis Enlargement.

FL= 11cm/4,33" - FG=10cm/3,99" - BPFSL= 20cm/7,87" - BP= 19,5cm/7,67" EL=19cm/7,48" - EG= 13cm/5,11" GO TO MY DREAM 8x6inch

I have tried something similar to this but I use cialis because the affects of it last longer then viagra and are not as aggressive as viagra.

I’m 30 years old and a fit person. My cock has an upwards curve. I have been pe’ing consistently over a year. I added cialis to my pumping routine because my cock is quite conditioned so I pump at a higher pressure. Having the cialis in my system at a low dose creates more blood in that area, which in turn I believe promotes faster healing and faster healing means quicker gains.

So my point is to have cialis in your system because it will allow you to pump at a higher pressure and still be able to get great erections. I have been doing this for a big majority of my pe’ing career, I use a month on cialis(low dose) and a month off cialis protocol so I don’t become immune to it’s affects. Let me say the month when I am on cialis is when I get noticeable gains, due to my theory that more blood in that area promotes faster healing. The gains are ballooned but over time those ballooned gains have become permanent gains and now my ballooned size is bigger then before. I don’t measure anymore, my girlfriends body language and comments are enough for me.

This may not work for everyone as we are all different but in my experience using a pde5 inhibitor at a low dose for PE is a good way to speed up gains….

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