Round or Elliptical Cylinder for Pumping

Been searching the forums to see what people think is better. So what do you believe is a better pump? Round or Elliptical cylinder? I have been looking at vacu-tech elliptical tubes, but I want to make sure I buy the right one.

I think you should evaluate the shape of your cock near the base and buy the cylinder that best fits your shape. I think my shape is more circular, so I will stick with my round cylinders.

I like the elliptical concept, I am going to get one soon. You can vary the amount of ellipse you need according to your own x,y dimensions. The base has no flange however, seems like a problem.

If you want a flange buy from lapdist.

Is there an advantage/disadvantage to a flange or is it just personal preference?

More comfortable. I also concur with gprents opinion about cock shape. Mine is very cylindrical so a round cylinder fits great.

On figuring out cylinder shape:

My unit is elliptical, with top to bottom being wider. In otherwords I am thicker in side view than in top view.

I am thinking a elliptical cylinder could help “round it out” by widening me from side to side.

I’ve been wanting to build width instead of height and went eliptical. It better matches my shape. I’m curious how a narrower round tube would feel though.

I bought an oval tube to start pumping. For the first few weeks I followed the short duration sets with minimal results. I then, through some information I found elsewhere, started doing 25-30 min sets. Before doing the 30 min sets I was doing the short ones less than 10 min. What I didn’t realize was that that style was designed on a regular style tube, there was no way I was getting the full effect of the elliptical tube. When I started doing the 25-30 min sets, it didn’t even take a week before I could pack the tube sideways up to the penis head. With the short sets just a little of the base packed the girth of the elliptical.

I’d say in about 4 weeks I have gained 3/4” in mid shaft girth using the 1 & 1/2 width by 9 ” elliptical. Length I gained not much, about .25”, but I didn’t get the elliptical for length, I got it to try to add girth, and with the longer pumping sessions, it does just that.

Now, being relatively new to pumping, I am still experimenting so by no means have I “mastered” anything in regards to pumping. My knowledge on the subject is relatively beginner to moderate I guess.

Pressure is the part I have to figure out, the thing about that is you have to accept that we all want different things, start at different places, and have different expectations, which will inherently make pressure that you pump at a purely personal factor that we must arrive at on our own. So far, I have definitely concluded that over 5Hg will easily cause the doughnut effect after I have packed the sides of the elliptical, since the sides no longer have any room to expand. Also, the head of my penis is extremely resistant to any expansion. That leaves the area of skin by the circumcision mark under the head to fend for itself, and of course it can’t hack it. If you’re into that then have at it. Myself I do not like the deformity, as it looks worse as the swelling slowly subsides.

I will try in the next few weeks to see if longer times at a pressure lower than 5 will help length growth and not contribute to the doughnut effect, but I feel that length is the realm of the straight tube, although I have not tried that yet in comparison. I will soon.

I got my stuff from lapdist, it’s nice stuff. I am serious about improvement, so going a cheap route was not an option.

Solid3nuf - thanks for the long post, I am just about convinced I need to have one of these.

On the pressure issue, I initially pumped between 3 and 5. I started getting better results at between 2.5 and 3 — more expansion, better EQ, less doughnutty type stuff.

On the set issue, this is an article that I got a lot out of:

Bagman’s Advanced Pumping Techniques: Effective Time
Bagman’s Advanced Pumping Techniques: Effective Time

He does an experiment of set time and pressure cycling that you might find interesting.

I have settled on 30 to 40 minutes, cycling pressure every 5 minutes. That is — 5 mins at 3hg, 1 minute at 1hg, rinse and repeat.

After years and years of pumping at higher pressures, I am also finding the best results of my life pumping for one 30-35 minute set at 3 to 3.5”hg. I then put on an elastic cock ring and edge my expanded cock for an additional 10 to 30 minutes.

I just can’t say how much better it is using lower pressures for one long pump set and avoiding trauma which is a real killer for permanent results. When I avoid damage my results are fantastic.

Turns out the most useful purpose for pumping with a gauge is so you can zero in at lower pumping pressures that cause no damage. When I first started pumping years ago, I always used the gauge to see how high I could go. Man, was that ever a mistake and one that took me a long time to correct. I just hope new guys catch on more quickly then I did about the benefits of using low pressure pumping.

It was actually a couple of your posts that got me to try keeping it around 3HG or less. So thanks for that.

I do feel that I have mostly a round cylinder shaped cock, rather than elliptical. However, I was thinking of going with a elliptical to just make my penis appear wider.

Appreciate the advice, thanks. I’ll give that a try immediately and see what I get

As an aside, I would like to throw my 2 cents in on the usually contentious topic of if gains from pumping are “permanent”. In the human body there are few things that are “permanent” irregardless of what we do. Bones and teeth are like this the majority of the time barring damage or injury or disease, etc. On the other hand, the rest of the body is a complex machine of adaptation to it’s environment and stresses. Truely an incredible machine it is, but we have to understand that medical understanding of the body’s complexities are at a relatively beginners level at best.

I wanted to set this up so I can keep things in a relative context. Otherwise, with vague statements we just interject our own assumptions and opinions to fill in the gaps. I like the comparison that has been stated comparing PE gains to muscle building gains. I believe this to be the most relevant and easily explained as such, as I will attempt to do.

Muscle is like most parts of our body, as in they respond to stress to reach a level of minimal energy spent. If you start a new job lifting boxes and you have never done so before, you will initially be sore, then the body compensates to handle the stress getting to a level where it can better handle this new stress using the least amount of energy. Same reason athletes train. On the other hand, when you are at a high maintainance level, such as a marathon runner or a powerlifter, etc, then stop doing that activity, the body will not take long to acclimate to this reduced stress level and get rid of the things like extra muscle that are no longer needed. Again, the goal is a state of minimal energy spent.

Now, that being said, one can get a reference of where the term “permanent” fits when talking about changes to the body. Without relatively consistant stress, changes the body makes to compensate will be reversed as needed. It’s the same adaptive function.

So, maybe you can see how this relates to PE, or more associated to what this forum section is about, penis pumping. Changes will be permanent as long as you continue applying the needed stress for maintainance of a certain gain level. Like the old “use it or lose it” saying.

I can say that after my to date gain of .75” in girth, it is evident in sex with my wife that it is indeed, currently, permanent. Before, if I didn’t have a truely 100% erection, I didn’t always feel like I was filling her, especially when she got really wet or with lubrication, which we usually always need just to get started. Now, after sex 2 nights in a row, she needs a break to “recover”, not to mention I was filling her consistently.

Of course, this can be idealistically debated whether this really qualifies as being “permanent” as the definition implies, but it’s permanent enough for me.