thoughtfulgold's Minimized Pumping and Clamping experiment

I personally do think devices have more power than hands do but as many devices as I’ve bought I still am not going to advocate device driven PE over manuals. There is no reason PE has to cost money.

That being said, people buy things anyway and if they can use what they buy better and buy less, this is good too. This routine doesn’t require a heavy investment if you’ve already gotten into pumping so…it’s definitely something folks can identify with.

I hope that your living situation allows for you to get done what you’re seeking to.

Fluid buildup has a few components. It first is seen as useless, as when your penis starts building up fluid it is no longer conventionally expanding the Corpus Cavernosum or Corpus Spongium. It is merely collecting fluid in the foreskin, which in the short term offers no real benefits. Also fluid buildup seems to have a telling effect on EQ and the softness of the fluid builup in the foreskin makes it much less hard to touch if you were going to have sex in the next 12 to 36 hours that it can take to dissipate.

Also, the dangers of it are blisters that can burst and hurt, particularly on the glans. Then, pressures like this can damage veins and lymph vessels or reduce sensitivity. Fluid buildup can occur from high or low pressure pumping but high pressure carries a lot more direct risk and fluid buildup can mask some of the damage that you do.

10 minute sessions cannot really cause fluid buildup unless your pressure was much higher, dangerously so. Get accustomed to pumping and decide if you want to increase pressures or durations. Both paths carry a reward.

Beyond what TG explained, let me add this:
I’m very conservative and careful with my pumping but the other day, after a decon break, I went to straight to my usual routine. This was a bit much, so I got fluid buildup I usually never experience. The downside was immediately obvious: The tool would have been useless for any performance. A big, soft, spongy swollen thing. Not at all the hardon you’d want to have.
It faded away until the next morning and was entirely due to overpumping, but I can assure you that had the GF been around I’d have been worried as that sight was not pretty nor would it have performed.

Long story short, aside from the risks it’s also highly useless.

Time in tube= 23 minutes

I tried a new pump routine. Where I basically only upped the high side of the routine durations from 30 to 60 seconds a piece as shown below:

1.5 HG 30 seconds
3 Hg 60 seconds
2 hg 30 seconds
4 hg 60 seconds
3 hg 30 seconds
5 hg 60 seconds
1.5 30 seconds
4 hg 60 seconds
2 hg 30 seconds
5 hg 60 seconds

I like the feel of the longer high side usage. I also feel better glans inflation as a result. With the pressures the same, it’s just a steadier hold on what we’re already used to. PIs are strong and the feel afterwards isn’t numb or anything negative. It’s warm and responsive penile tissue, which is good for a pump session of longer than 15 minutes.

Clamp session 1 time for 10 minutes. Afterwards, just a bit of fluid buildup under the glans. Erection is still nice and firm, sensitive (as I get, anyway).

Due to dating, the entries to this log may not be as regular as I would like as my PE time is going to be impacted.

Mild fluid buildup as is usual. Clamped girth exceeded 6.25” and EQ was good for session.

Squeezing this session in during early evening with her coming by in a few hours becomes trickier each time.

Hi TG,

Using IPR, I’ve gone the other way. Short duration with multiple clamps and pumping but at reasonable high intensity.

So using Zeno’s model of creating multiple bends to the penis under pressure I have devised a clamping routine as follows:

Clamp the penis as per how I normally do it, with a pad at the base, kegel more blood in then add two clicks until blood can’t easily get out while pushing the clamp into the base and I have a nice pressure in the penis, normally 8-9 clicks. Then add an additional 5 clamps above the original clamp at approximately equal distances and tighten. This gives the inward and outward bends on the penis to create pressure for girth as Xeno described. Think of it as multiple Orange bends all the way up the penis. Xeno used a wooden tool to achieve the same result. Kegel blood into the bottom clamp, and push the clamp down for the next 7 min. Repeat.

Now for the pumping side, which may get controversial given the pressures I have been using.

So now I have a penis that has been under pressure with multiple bends to accentuate the stretch for girth. What should I do?

So I decided, again with the IPR theory to add two sets of 7 min pumps to stretch out any expansion made by the clamping above.

IPR speaks of increasing the load on the penis until results in gains diminish, so I started at 2 x 7 min set at 7hg. No problem, no injury, however some fluid build up.

I would end the session with 30 seconds at 13 hg and take a measurement so I could track gains to determine when to start a decon break.

So as you up the load on the penis with IPR, I upped the pressure, not the time as this gave me a lymph problems in the past. I’m at 10 hg for 7 min x 2 sets at the moment. Still no adverse effects but it does push into the pubic bone. In addition I upped the final pressure to 15 HG for 30 seconds to measure the final result.

I’m getting more fluid build up, which is to be expected, so a sleeve may help, although if I add 10-20 min of masturbation to the end of the set I can virtually eliminate all fluid build up. It disappears with the stroking. I’m in week 1 at the moment and Xeno thinks you may only need 11 days on this regime before a month plus off.

I’ll post how it goes.

SB

Honestly, because your routine is much more advanced than my foray into IPR I am unsure exactly how much strain you ought to have. I mean my multiple clamp sessions start with 4, not five. Equidistant apart but they’re further than you’re using. It’s about approaches and you’re taking a higher pressure approach than I am. This is kinda where my expertise wanes, as I’m learning this system myself. My apologies, Shaunbaby.

Started this yesterday. First day in the pump today. We will see!

Brilliant! Your suggestion of 4 clamps made me think that if I alternate between 4 and 5 clamps I place the bends at different places on the penis, hopefully generating more growth.

SB

Well, if you follow the deformation formula that xeno does, you get deformation directly under and to the adjacent areas to the clamps. Alternating numbers would in theory cover more area in injured and inflamed tissue. So either you will generate more growth or enough injury to go over the line of safety. I don’t know which, as I don’t know what the limits of your penis are in relative to the routine you’re doing is. But…it could be a perfect storm for the conditions of growth. Or just over the line.

Take care in either case.

Hey TG how is this experiment going?

I ended up putting it on hold. Serious life turmoil has limited my PE time. I’ve run and started IPR which has a lot less tune constraints but a lot more risk. The experiment shows significant promise though for regular use.

GOD DAMN BOYS!!! So I tried pumping and clamping a few days ago and have kept with it…..I hit the big 6 while clamped!!!! So as you can tell by my excessive explanation points I’m very happy! I’m going to continue with this routine and see what brings. I have decon break coming up in mid April until then it’s gonna be pumping about an hour a day total time and clamping in between pumping sets.

Thanks.

I am now at day 13 and the process has pretty much gone exactly as to what Xeno said. At day 11 length gains stalled or might have gone back by 0.5mm. Day 12 girth had dropped, due to lower EQ. Morning wood is still happening, however if the girth has not returned by tomorrow I will assume this is the end of my I phase. I’m not sure how to handle the P phase. Maybe very light pumping. In any case I will enter the R phase a plan to start back around the beginning of April.

SB