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Originally Posted by AndyJ
There are several papers on infrared healing on nih.gov. They average around 20 minutes for recommended exposure. If I remember right there was no damage from longer exposure, it just didn’t do anything useful. All of the papers I read said they used the light once a day.

I have a gooseneck lamp attached to a nearby shelf. I’m acclimated to pumping, so it’s convenient to use the light through the tube for 15 minutes on the bottom, 15 minutes on the top, during a 30-minute session. If you’re using 20-minute or shorter sessions, just do one surface for one session, the other for the next. You can do left/right if it’s more convenient.

There are various plastics used for transparent pump tubes. I looked up the IR transmissivity of them a while back, and they’re all 90 to 92% at 660-850 nanometers, so no problem for illuminating through the tube.

That wavelength of IR is ‘generally considered safe’ by the FDA, but there’s a condition called ‘glassblower’s cataracts’ from looking into furnaces radiating a lot of IR. I arrange a pillow or a roll of paper towels to block direct sight of the lamp when necessary.

My IR illuminator gets warm to the touch, but not hot. I move it up until it’s actually touching the tube.

Thank you so much!! You’ve saved me a lot of worry and headache. Out of curiosity which IR illuminator do you use?

Originally Posted by AndyJ
There are several papers on infrared healing on nih.gov. They average around 20 minutes for recommended exposure. If I remember right there was no damage from longer exposure, it just didn’t do anything useful. All of the papers I read said they used the light once a day.

I have a gooseneck lamp attached to a nearby shelf. I’m acclimated to pumping, so it’s convenient to use the light through the tube for 15 minutes on the bottom, 15 minutes on the top, during a 30-minute session. If you’re using 20-minute or shorter sessions, just do one surface for one session, the other for the next. You can do left/right if it’s more convenient.

There are various plastics used for transparent pump tubes. I looked up the IR transmissivity of them a while back, and they’re all 90 to 92% at 660-850 nanometers, so no problem for illuminating through the tube.

That wavelength of IR is ‘generally considered safe’ by the FDA, but there’s a condition called ‘glassblower’s cataracts’ from looking into furnaces radiating a lot of IR. I arrange a pillow or a roll of paper towels to block direct sight of the lamp when necessary.

My IR illuminator gets warm to the touch, but not hot. I move it up until it’s actually touching the tube.

Guys, type red light and penis into your search engine to see studies and article on red light with NEAR infra red and penis health. The near infra red (NIR) coupled with red light applies two wave lengths that apparently are optimal for penetration into a penis, in comparison to far infra red (FIR) which is what is typically discussed here. Very interesting reading. As Andy says, 20 minutes is usually the recommended time period for use, but there are apparently no known harmful effects from longer use.

Why is taping such an important part of vacuum hanging, but not vacuum pumping? Is it a pressure thing?

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Couldn’t seem to find anything searching on the forums specific to my question so thought I would try here. If I’m off base my apologies just point me in the right direction.

Issue is thus. Started a pump routine two months ago and followed suggestions for sizing, goal is length, more girth is fine but not my focus right now. My base is 6.2, Meg 5.5/5.4. So got some traffic cone action. Bought a 2 in from lap. After a month was packing about 3 in (7.1 BPEL). As a note I did mic the tube and found the inner dimensions were actually 2.18. I have about 2 in turkey neck and occasionally got some sack suckage and really haven’t made any length progress.

Decided to order a 1.75 and a 1.75 elliptical. Tried the 1.75 but it strangled the base and seemed to be preventing blood flow (have large veins on the sides). Wasn’t getting length or girth. When I pulled out I could tell the bottom 1.5 had a lot of pressure on it, was ghost white. Sooo.I’m thinking this was just a lost cause and waste, or am I missing something here?

The 1.75 elliptical fits amazing and I’m not sack sucking but not sure if I’m gonna get the length targeting I’m looking for. Any suggestions?

Session is 5 min warm up jelq, 5min condition pump, short jelq followed by 30 min 4-5 hg with intermittent 8hg 30sec every 2min for last 10 min. Fire goat and jelq cool down 3-5 min.

Originally Posted by Zmac2
Couldn’t seem to find anything searching on the forums specific to my question so thought I would try here. If I’m off base my apologies just point me in the right direction.

Issue is thus. Started a pump routine two months ago and followed suggestions for sizing, goal is length, more girth is fine but not my focus right now. My base is 6.2, Meg 5.5/5.4. So got some traffic cone action. Bought a 2 in from lap. After a month was packing about 3 in (7.1 BPEL). As a note I did mic the tube and found the inner dimensions were actually 2.18. I have about 2 in turkey neck and occasionally got some sack suckage and really haven’t made any length progress.

Decided to order a 1.75 and a 1.75 elliptical. Tried the 1.75 but it strangled the base and seemed to be preventing blood flow (have large veins on the sides). Wasn’t getting length or girth. When I pulled out I could tell the bottom 1.5 had a lot of pressure on it, was ghost white. Sooo.I’m thinking this was just a lost cause and waste, or am I missing something here?

The 1.75 elliptical fits amazing and I’m not sack sucking but not sure if I’m gonna get the length targeting I’m looking for. Any suggestions?

Session is 5 min warm up jelq, 5min condition pump, short jelq followed by 30 min 4-5 hg with intermittent 8hg 30sec every 2min for last 10 min. Fire goat and jelq cool down 3-5 min.

That’s interesting.
1- I don’t suppose you have a heating pad?
2 - Are you using a flange sleeve?
3 - What position are you pumping in, seated/standing/laying/walking around? If you are seated, do you support the tube or just let it hang there in the air?

I get pretty pale in a cold pump, but I never lose blood flow, so it stays close to body temp.

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1- I don’t suppose you have a heating pad?
2 - Are you using a flange sleeve?
3 - What position are you pumping in, seated/standing/laying/walking around? If you are seated, do you support the tube or just let it hang there in the air?

1. I do a preliminary heating with an heating pad prior to my session and also wrap the tube during as well.
2. The 1.75 is a thick walled but no its not flanged.
3. Start standing and usually move to a reclined sitting position with the tube supported in a straight out from body position to maintain seal. It’s not holding up its own weight its propped between two pilows.

Originally Posted by Zmac2
2. The 1.75 is a thick walled but no its not flanged.

Seems like you’re doing everything right, except - no flange.

No flange at all? That’s your blood flow issue for sure. Is there an entry sleeve available for that tube? A flange and/or sleeve will spread the force out over a wider area and usually still allow blood flow with little to no pinch.

In the meantime, since you’re already kind of pulsing, drop to 1hg-2hg for 30 seconds, every 5 minutes or so in between pulses, and pull the tube away from your pubic bone to restore blood flow. Move it around a little, kegel some fresh blood in. See how that goes. A good flange sleeve, or wide flange tube without a sleeve wouldn’t require this.

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Fluid Build Up Disappearing After A Gym Workout

Hi everyone. It’s been a month since I started pumping. I resolved into pumping after all manual exercises I was doing didn’t give me any more gains. I have been PEing without equipments since Feb 2016. I didn’t know how to measure then, and because I was on a trip where I couldn’t get access to a ruler or tape measure, I took my toothbrush, did a bone press and that became my starting measurements, about 6.5-7 inches when erect. Girth was about 5.25 inches. Right now I’m between 8.5 - 9 depending on the level of my arousal or the woman I am with during sex. Girth is 6 - 6.25 when erect, but when flaccid, it is 6.5 inches. My target has always been 9 x 7, so acquired a generic pump a month ago. I pump for 1 hr everyday, except Saturdays and Sundays. Fluid buildup normally clears by the following morning before my next session. Yesterday I resumed gym after 4 months break. I went to the gym after a pumping session and immediately I left the gym the fluid build up had subsided. I find this strange. Has anyone ever experienced this? What is the explanation behind this?

Heavyshaft

Originally Posted by HeavyShaft
I went to the gym after a pumping session and immediately I left the gym the fluid build up had subsided. I find this strange. Has anyone ever experienced this? What is the explanation behind this?

I don’t have a scientific explanation, but it’s been my experience, during the gym or anything physically demanding that it shrinks and balls tuck. Completely out of use, mentally and physiologically. Almost like biological storage mode.

My guess: Blood, oxygen, and energy resources are being put where they’re highly demanded, at the gym, definitely not in your piece.

Just my experience. I don’t actually know.

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Originally Posted by 114life
I don’t have a scientific explanation, but it’s been my experience, during the gym or anything physically demanding that it shrinks and balls tuck. Completely out of use, mentally and physiologically. Almost like biological storage mode.

My guess: Blood, oxygen, and energy resources are being put where they’re highly demanded, at the gym, definitely not in your piece.

Just my experience. I don’t actually know.

Hi 114life,

Just wondering, does this mean that even if I was to wrap my penis to remain in an elongated state after a PE session, or even put on a cockring then hit a gym, is basically counterproductive since all blood and oxygen in my penis are being channeled elsewhere?

Heavyshaft

Heavyshaft

Originally Posted by HeavyShaft
Hi 114life,

Just wondering, does this mean that even if I was to wrap my penis to remain in an elongated state after a PE session, or even put on a cockring then hit a gym, is basically counterproductive since all blood and oxygen in my penis are being channeled elsewhere?

For me, yeah, it’s counterproductive. I can only assume it would depend on the wrap or function of the wrap or ring-

If you were using silicone tube and a vacuum cap, it might hold it out there, as long as the silicon doesn’t collapse or sweat doesn’t lubricate the cap enough to slide back inside the tube.

If you’re using traction wrap, like an ace wrap or other cloth, it would eventually find it’s way back in also.

A ring, would restrict flow. If it’s a healthy fit, it wouldn’t stop it either. Again, eventually deflating.

Why not PE after the gym and save the trouble?

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Why not PE after the gym and save the trouble?
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This is my new resolution. Many thanks bro.

Heavyshaft

That’s definitely my observation

My typical routine is to pump and then hit the gym and most/all fluid buildup subsides

If I go on a walk, it’s the same thing but not as extreme

Considering I often pump multiple times a day, it’s a great reset

Hi Bros

I’m a FIR vacuum hanger, following Kyrpa´s advice to switch to pumping for girth before decon.

I’m very used to pressure due to using Bathmate at high pressures for a long time.

Can anyone suggest a routine or thread for pumping with FIR, please?

May good safe gains be with you all.

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