AndyJ's Body Enhancement Thread

PE day 525
keto day 100

I’ve been doing some jelquing lately, primarily “because I can.” It was uncomfortable because of friction with the lotion I’ve been using as a pump lube didn’t work well for jelquing.

I had some olive oil on hand and tried that. It only took a tiny amount, was adequately slick, didn’t dry out, and since so little was needed, adequate cleanup was possible with just a paper towel. I had avoided oil-based lubes thinking they would require a shower and soap for cleanup, but it looks like I overthought that.

Back a couple years ago when all this started, I had been left with a deformed meatus after a bad staph infection. The urologist said urology had nothing to offer, I should try to find a plastic surgeon. I was having no luck with that - they either wanted nothing to do with anything other than noses, breasts, and liposuction, or they wanted me to make an appointment for $300 or more, just so they could take a look, since my insurance wouldn’t cover plastic surgery. About that time the entire medical industry shut down due to the ‘rona.

Left hanging, I decided to DIY; I found that “hollow penis plugs” existed, and used those to stretch and reshape my meatal opening. After around a thousand hours, this was extremely successful - the opening was expanded back out and reshaped to “normal”, and would stay that way for two or three weeks at a time before needing a day or two of re-stretching.

I would have just kept using the plugs - after a while, I got used to it and my dick felt odd without one - but the meatus is stretchy. It’s difficult and often painful to get the next size up inserted, it stays a day or two, then the opening stretches enough it falls out on its own.

I decided to move on to “penis enlargement” since I’d been pumping and extending already, stretching the various scars that had been left by the infection. It turned out that most “PE” work quickly caused my meatus to go back to “shower head” mode. A few days of plugging would fix that, but it came down to “either PE or pee, but not both.”

I knew plugging worked to reshape my meatus… so I set it aside and continued with PE, using a flattened tube to pee through so I didn’t wet myself and the surrounding area. This has been awkward since I have to carry a bag with the tube and cleanup materials whenever I go anywhere, and it would be really handy to have three hands and a stall with a door when using them… but I’ve made do.

Somewhere along the way I encountered the “Tetherspout”, which is a small hollow tube that sticks just inside the urethra, and is held in place by a “retainer” washer. The manufacturer markets them mostly as jewelry or an ADS attachment method, with the casual mention that the could also solve urination issues. Well, fukmirunnin’, that sounded like what I was looking for.

I bought a bunch of spouts, retainers, and accessories from tetherproducts.com. The spouts are 6mm tubes in four lengths, from 10mm to 20mm. The spouts have an 8.5mm flange on the near end to engage the retainers. The retainers are basically washers.

The meatus is the slit at the end of your member that you urinate through. Immediately behind that is a tough fibrous ring, which I have never seen the name of, and then the fossa navicularis, which is a hollow space or enlarged urethra section in the glans. The fibrous ring doesn’t like to stretch, and it is elastic enough that once stretched, it will return more or less to its original size.

You’re supposed to insert a spout, turn the retainer on edge and slide it in, then manipulate things to turn the retainer so you can get the spout through the hole. The retainer sits on the fibrous ring and the spout can be pushed out to urinate, then pushed back in if you don’t want it hanging out.

Perectomundo.

Except it didn’t work for me. I’d successfully reshaped my meatus with hollow plugs, but the smallest retainer size Tether made was too big to go in. So I had to buy more plugs and keep stretching. I’d stretch all the way out to 10mm - larger than normal - and a couple of hours after removing the plug the opening would shrink back down to 8mm, sometimes even smaller than where I’d started. I wasn’t sure how I’d get the spout out after the opening shrank, but I wanted to try it at least briefly before I had to pull it out before it got locked in.

Problem #2 was that I could never get the damned retainer and spout to line up so I could pull the spout through. I tried all the recommended tricks; dental floss, forceps, etc. - with no luck.

One day I was poking around on Aliexpress and saw a Chinese knock-off of the Tetherspout. The Chinese one used much smaller retainers than the tetherproducts original, and came with an “installation tool” tube. Apparently whoever copied the spout didn’t understand that the retainers were supposed to slide in sideways and then turn; the Chinese version wanted you to assemble the spout and retainer, then push them straight in with a hollow tube pushing on the retainer.

Hmm.

I hit eBay and looked up O-rings. I found some with a 6mm ID and 10mm OD, and some more with a 6mm ID and 11mm OD. I also found some with a 6mm ID and a 12mm OD, but I didn’t order any of those.

The rings came in a few days ago. I re-stretched to 10mm, slid a 6x11 O-ring onto a 20mm long spout, and used a plastic drinking straw (sorry, California residents) to push them straight in. All I had to do was tilt the stack a bit for the 11mm ring to slide through the 10mm hole. I used the straw to push them well down, then waited a few hours for my meatus to shrink back down and lock it in place.

Yee-haw!

It has been more than twelve hours now. It stays in place by itself when urinating. I can pump, jelq, or use the vacuum ADS with the spout in place. I ordinarily do some stretching, which requires a firm grip on my glans, but I haven’t tried that yet. After all the stretching, and then the spout, there’s some mild discomfort, so I’m going to wait a few days for my member to get used to the spout before stretching.

Removing the spout normally involves using a tool to push the spout out of the retainer and down the urethra a bit, turning the retainer sideways, and then sliding both pieces out. That’s not going to happen with a steel retainer after my meatus resumes its normal 8mm-ish size - but the nitrile O-ring is flexible, and should squish down and come out without trouble. If it doesn’t, I also have some kind of CBT torture toy I bought off eBay; it looks like a pair of tweezer with a jack screw, that you can use to stretch the opening gradually. It would be inconvenient and probably take most of a weekend, but it should work.

So: walk into the bathroom, run my finger under my glans to push the spout out, urinate, then push it back in with a fingertip. There’s no sign it’s even there.

PE day: 601
keto day: 106

The TetherSpout is out.

I didn’t have any problems when I first put it in, other than some residual soreness from the stretch. I pumped as usual and did some light jelquing. While I could move the spout in and out at first, after a later pumping session it became very painful to try to push the spout in, so I left it hanging out.

The soreness never went away, and sometimes moved up to “pain”. It was a bit worse when urinating. I figured maybe pumping had pinched the tissue where the ring sat and maybe there was a bruise in there. So I left things alone for the next few days. Until I could push the spout back in and out of the O-ring, it wasn’t going anywhere.

So I thought.

Last night I was awake reading when the pinch-discomfort morphed into the familiar “feels like a penis plug coming out” discomfort. I reached down and tilted the spout gently to the side. It only increased the discomfort slightly. Then came the familiar “it’s coming out” sensation, and a few seconds later, the spout and O-ring dropped into my hand.

Looking down, I saw a dark spot. I got a clean paper towel and dabbed at it, getting a spot of blood. I kept dabbing and got a bit more. I don’t know whether it is from the “pinch” area inside, or if it was a small tear from the ring coming back through the meatus. From posts by jelquers and hangers here and the body mod guys on newart, I don’t think there’s any reason to worry about it.

Well, it was really nice just to flip my dick out and piss like a normal guy for the last 4 days and 13 hours, but I’m going to give it a good long while before I try again. Looks like I’ll still be carrying the damned bag with a piss tube and cleaning materials around.

PE day 610
keto day 114

I’ve done nothing other than some edging for the past nine days. The meatal area seemed to be completely healed and pain-free after seven days; I gave it another three days just to make sure. I’ll resume PE this afternoon with some light pumping and work back up slowly.

EQ has been very good, with morning wood most mornings and some noticeable night wood. That started happening when I began taking a celery seed extract supplement. I’ve cycled it on and off a few times, and EQ seems to follow a few days behind the supplement.

The benefits from L-Arginine were very small, and I discontinued that supplement in the interest of simplifying things.

Weight was 314# yesterday.

Still maintaining a strict keto diet. I’ve seen a number of claims that it’s unhealthy to be on keto long-term, but I haven’t noticed any health issues. I did have to go back up to 50mg of zinc supplements when I started eating more beef. That’s zinc gluconate. It turns out there are several forms of zinc supplements; I picked up some zinc picolinate to try since I haven’t seen much on the “bio-availability” of various forms of zinc.

What’s the connection between eating beef and zinc?

Some people have insufficient zinc to properly digest the beef. Especially if they start with a crappy diet.

Andy,

I’m surprised you need the zinc at all now. Beef is pretty zinc rich, you should be able to taper down. Are you buying weird cuts or doing something else that depletes zinc (the obvious one being non-stop onanism).

I was keto for around 2 years before I saw any issues. It’s OK to cycle out and back in. Maybe add a little fruit.

I tried going from 50mg of zinc to 25mg. The beef rash came back like a freight train. I went back up to 50mg but it has only helped a bit. The itching is driving me crazy.

I don’t know for certain that they’re related, but the zinc rash went away when I started taking zinc, and came back when I cut the dose in half.

20% fat ground beef has something like 5mg per 100g, so 1 lb should be around 25mg. A steak would be slightly better than that. So I’m surprised.

I guess from covid, we know that zinc is used a lot in immune response. Maybe there’s something going on there and as your body recovers you will actually be able to reduce.

You continue to flummox me :)

From what I’ve gathered searching the web, an adult male is supposed to need somewhere around 8mg of zinc per day. The most common supplements are 50mg, which hints that uptake from the supplements isn’t good. (which isn’t unusual; magnesium is particularly difficult to absorb)

I took one of the zinc picolinates this morning. Unfortunately they’re capsules, not tablets, so cutting them in half wasn’t practical. Same 50mg dose as the uncut zinc gluconates. I got a mildly upset stomach, but at least it wan’t the full-on rolling guts reaction to a 50mg gluconate.

There were a number of warnings of problems with too much zinc, though none of the reports was clear about whether they were talking about absorbed zinc or supplement quantities.

My doctor would agree with you… I have way-off-the-sigma-curve reactions to a lot of common drugs, for example.

You were correct when you recommended zinc to help with the beef allergy; I just have to do a little more fiddling with the dosage.

PE day 610
keto day 116

After a 15 day healing and rest break, I resumed PE today, with some light (3”Hg) pumping. Previously, more than a week off would result in the scar ring contracting, whereupon it would crack when I went back to pumping. It didn’t happen this time. Perhaps the shea butter/hyaluronic acid mix I’ve been using has helped.

I did a 20 minute session erect going in and coming out, 10 minutes of edging, and repeat. Normally I’m not erect while pumping, but EQ has been particularly good lately. I’ll work on it some more this evening.

A few weeks ago it got warm enough to use the exercise equipment without getting frozen. I managed to talk a friend into working out with me. He’s an ex-IT type in about the same overall shape I’m in; overweight, arthritis, out of shape. I think he’ll get bored with it and quit after a while, but it’s nice to have someone to talk to while it lasts.

Yeah supplement uptake is normally crap. It’s mostly plant based forms, so it follows that it would have similar uptake levels as plants (i.e. crappy). The zinc in beef is already in the best form, so uptake should be much greater.

I think it’s probably fair to say that your diet now is loaded with zinc in comparison to your previous diet. You’re continued need for zinc supplements is confusing. Maybe it’s a short term thing and it’s worth continuing to experiment. A lot of these kinds of things get depleted over years, it might take some months before your body is happy with the level in the food you’re getting.

I wonder if your sperm are better quality now :)

Glad to hear the exercises are getting somewhere.

Well, I don’t know for sure it’s the zinc… but the rash problem is steadily getting better since I bumped the zinc dose up. Hopefully it will go completely away soon.

I really appreciate your methodical approach and write ups. A/B testing is always the way. Sometimes it’s hard with diet though because cause and effect can be separated by some time.