Basshamans Progress

Richard65,
First, thanks for the reply! I didn’t want to add a whole thread for my questions, so I appreciate you taking the time to read my thread and giving me your advice. I’ll work on reducing and eventually cutting out porn, and I’ll wait at least another 8 weeks (that’ll be 3 months PE-ing) before adding anything to the newbie routine as you suggested. As I’m sure you have experienced, the first gains are exhilarating, and I want even more! Also, I will work on measuring less. I didn’t measure at all for the first two weeks, and then did a couple days in a row to ensure I was getting a consistent measurement. I have a solid measurement so I’ll put the ruler and tape away for a couple more weeks. Do you think it would be a good idea to increase the duration of my PE sessions? Or keep them the same until I stall? Thanks again for the advice.

Patience.

Finished up week 4. Taking today and tomorrow off to see if I recover into some extra gains before measuring. Out of curiosity to see the difference between a shrunken post-workout measurement vs a recovered full-size, yesterday I measured (same day as a workout) and got 7.5 BPEL and a little under 5.325 EG. Measured again today, and I was just a touch under 7.75 BPEL, even hitting it a couple times, and a solid 5.325. Taking one more day off tomorrow and remeasuring to see what my 4 week progress is. I think it won’t be as good as my first 2 weeks, but that’s okay. I think in the second month, I’m going to try waiting a full 4 weeks before measuring. It will take a lot of self control, because I want to see the gains, but I think that will be healthier in the long run.

I’ve been increasing the duration of my workouts, now getting at least 300 jelqs and 20 30-sec stretches in on a mostly 2 days one, 1 day off schedule. I’ve also made my jelqing more intense, sometimes getting red spots that turn purple. I always ease off as soon as I see this happen, but its a bit tough to get the pump feeling without causing those little blood vessel ruptures. At least for me. Next month I’d like to get up to 500 jelqs a session by the end of the month. It can be tough though, because my grip gets weaker towards the end and so the quality of my jelqs goes down. Also, I have a hard time keeping as much blood as I want in the penis during jelqing, so I have to occasionally stop jelqing and masturbate for a few seconds to get more blood in. The later in the session it is, the more often I have to do this.

Well…

“at least 300 jelqs and 20 30-sec stretches in on a mostly 2 days one, 1 day off schedule”

That is, in my humble opinion, very intense as routine after just 4 weeks. And you talk about going for 500 jelqs

I hope you don’t overtrain.

Just my 2 cents

On the Newbie Routine, it says to work up to 20 30-second stretches and 600 jelqs over the course of 6 weeks. I can see that I’m a bit ahead on stretching, but according to that schedule, I’m actually a bit behind increasing my jelqs. It also suggests 2 days on, 1 off. Is the beginner routine wrong?

I would not say the noobs routine is wrong. I say it is a bit fast in my opinion.

I prefer isolating the ramp-up steps and wait and see if the dick appreciates the modification of the routine. And for this purpose, I think 2 weeks of constant routine is good, 4 weeks is better. So it’s a different methodology. Not what you do, but how you do it.

Then I think Kegel exercises should be a mandatory part of the noobs routine. They are so rasy and so benrficial: better EQ, better ejaculation control and ovetall stamina.

Another point is jelqing speed. My conviction is that slow jelqs give you more response if you are doing it right. I am doing 5-10sec jelqs and try to make every jelq to be the “perfect jelq”.

Then come rest days. I am pretty convinced that growth and healing happens during rest days. Comes a bit from superficial biology knowledge about tissue restoration dynamics - there it’s a logarithmic curve showing that the biggest part is done in the first 48 hours. Therefore I recommend to have always 2 consecutive days of rest instead of one. My “full” rhythm is a 5on/2off, which I reach after 5-6 months of ramp-up as I modify the routine only once per month.

The last point is patience. I think it is important to learn to be patient as attitude in PE. That’s why I think the noobs routine is recommending a ramp-up a bit too fast.

After all, it’s a matter of personal preference. I am just advocating the cautious and nitpicking way of PE in order to find the zone of growth and being able to stay in.

Ok, well I will take that into consideration as I continue into the next month. Perhaps if I am slow about increasing my training volume that will help me stay patient. So far I haven’t had any huge significant negative PIs, and I will make sure to continue to ease back a little when I get minor ones. I appreciate the advice :)

Also, I need to be more disciplined about doing kegels. This far, its been more of a “when I remember” kind of thing instead of a regularly scheduled thing. I’ll make sure to start doing that.

Also, about the jelqing, I have been trying to do it slower than the 3 seconds-I think mine tend to be around 4-5 seconds. As I’m about to mention in my next post, I think its been working great!

Just posting to mention that at the end of my first month, I took 2 days off and measured. I measured yesterday as well on my first day off, but I am even bigger today than I was yesterday. Today the absolute max I hit was: just a touch under 7.825 BPEL and 5.5 EG right on the mark. I managed to hit that 5.5 girth mark 2 or 3 times, and the other times it was just a touch under 5.5. The length was a bit sketchier, so I am just going to call it 7.75, but its cool to know I’m on the verge of 7.825. I noticed that I couldn’t hit these measurements first thing in the morning when I woke up. I was about halfway between 5.325 and 5.5 first thing in the morning, and length was barely below 7.75. Seems to match a trend I’ve been noting where I get better measurements in the afternoon than in the morning.

I think I’m going to wait a whole month before measuring again, which is going to be really hard, but if I do it I think I will be happier with the results. If I can come close to this first months progress I’ll be ecstatic! Looks like I added around 1/8” to length and girth, and a tad more on length.

Congratulations basshaman, you’re in the zone. Yes, hide the ruler and tailor tape for the next 4 weeks :-)

As for Kegels: there are apps for the cell phone which remind you for doing the exercises. Never tried myself but sounds like a giid idea.

Finished the first week. Due to a bunch of weekend activities two of my workouts got cut short before the jelqing so I only ended up jelqing 3 times this week. I stretched 5 days though. I decided to keep my workouts the same for the first week. 20 30-second stretches, 300 jelqs. Our room mate was out of town so it was easier to workout and I did a hot wrap before stretching and again before jelqing. He will be back tonight though so this week I won’t have the same privacy.

I started doing a bit of reading on ball stretchers. I like the idea of them hanging lower, but I don’t want that to mess with their ability to be temperature regulated. I want to have kids someday, so I’m thinking that might not be the best thing for me. Anyways, looking forward to week 2 month 2 starting tomorrow. Going to up the jelqs to 350 this week and 24 30-second stretches.

Had a super busy two weeks and have only been able to PE twice. Didn’t even have time to make an entry at the end of month two, so I’ll just do a quick update here. The last week of month two I only was able to PE once, and when I measured my girth had actually gone down about 1/8” to 5 3/8”. My length kept going up though, and I was around 7 15/16” BPEL. For the next month I think I’d like to try adding a small amount of squeezes into my routine to try to get my girth progress going again. About to go on vacation for 9 days which should provide a great opportunity to get a solid habit of PEing started again and get some solid time put in.

Just got back from a vacation during which I wasn’t able to do any wet jelqing. I tried doing some dry jelqing but it was difficult for me to consistently find a spot on the skin that would allow my hand to travel the full length of the penis to get a solid jelq. I tried to compensate by doing some unstructured manual stretching whenever I had a free moment just to hold onto whatever length gains I had. I had a feeling I lost length and girth so I remeasured when I got back. I’m sad to say my girth is almost back to where I started. It was at about 5.325” and my BPEL stayed where it was at around 7.75-7.825”.

I’m going to do one week of my old jelqing routine, probably about 200 jelqs 3 or 4 days this week. After that I want to look into a girth routine because I have been able to consistently affect my length, but I am having a hard time consistently adding to my girth.

Basshaman

I’d say go on with the actual routine as long as you are gaining. I understand that girth is a high value objective, but you have enough jelqing in your actual routine to make girth gains with it.

Maybe even going slower in the individual jelq. Tty finding your perfect jelq that creates a nice but not too strong pressure wave travelling through the dick. This can’t be found with fast jelqs.

Okay Richard, I’ll go back to jelqing and stretching for a while. Would it be reasonable to break things into month long blocks? If I don’t gain in a particular month then its time to try something new for a month? Also, I’ll experiment with the lower jelq speeds.

I really hope “less is more” applies to me because with the warmup, stretching, warming up again, jelqing, and then washing the vaseline off, the workouts take longer than I’d like. Its still worth what I get out of it, but its just hard to fit into my schedule.

Monthly blocks are what I do too. And i work with suspicion. If I do not measure progress, I have a plateau suspicion. I still go on mwith an unmodified routine.. If the month after, I still have no growth, then the suspicion gets confirmed and I change the routine.

But sometimes my dick just has a “bad month” but continues growth afterwards. So I’m still in the zone of gains and do not loose a succesfull routine.

I’ve been trying slower jelqs and they definitely allow me to apply similar amounts of pressure with less blood vessel damage. If this can also lead to girth gains I will be very happy because I’d prefer to keep my snakes coloration as close as possible to it’s current color.

Also working on porn detox and reducing masturbation is going fairly well thus far. Edging helps. Also reading some of the stories on this site helps a ton. I’m hoping its one of those thinks that will become easier the more it becomes habit.

On another note I have been thinking more about goals and I think I want at the least 8” nbl and 6.25” girth. I’ll end sooner if the girlfriend can’t handle more size but if she can I want to keep going. I know these numbers are far away and would be happy for a quarter inch in each measurement medium-term. I want to get consistent enough progress to set some medium term goals to really gun for.