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Giving chemical PE a try

I’m going to be using DMSO + PABA. Although the only source of PABA I can find is in capsules, I can’t find any powdered forms. So I was thinking of getting the capsules and opening them to pour into the DMSO mix.

Although I do fear that the fillers inside the capsule would enter my body through the DMSO and cause a bad reaction. What are anyone elses thoughts on this?

I’m not sure about it. The fillers in my PABA seem pretty benign. I’m doing oral PABA of 1000mg four times a day as the original protocols mentioned.


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Originally Posted by NewYellowBanana
I’m going to be using DMSO + PABA. Although the only source of PABA I can find is in capsules,

I could only find tablets, so I bought a mortar and pestle so I could grind them into powder. I used PABA and DMSO to get rid of some scars. Despite what the Web says, you *can* get rid of scars, it just takes way more time and effort than most people are willing to commit to. Sort of like PE, come to think of it.

Originally Posted by NewYellowBanana
I’m going to be using DMSO + PABA. Although the only source of PABA I can find is in capsules, I can’t find any powdered forms. So I was thinking of getting the capsules and opening them to pour into the DMSO mix.

I might add some to a vial of DMSO myself and do both oral and topical. Thanks for bringing the idea up on the thread!


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Originally Posted by AndyJ
I could only find tablets, so I bought a mortar and pestle so I could grind them into powder. I used PABA and DMSO to get rid of some scars. Despite what the Web says, you *can* get rid of scars, it just takes way more time and effort than most people are willing to commit to. Sort of like PE, come to think of it.

What ratio of solvent to powder did you use? How many mL of DMSO was required to dissolve a gram of PABA?


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Have you done another measurement? Also thought of adding DMSO mixed with PABA as a topical?

Do you also think that using an ACE bandage as an ADS would help? So just basically wrapping the flaccid penis in the ACE bandage to prevent shrinkage and heal in an extended state during the day.

Originally Posted by tenaciousD
What ratio of solvent to powder did you use? How many mL of DMSO was required to dissolve a gram of PABA?

I think I just crushed a single PABA tablet into powder and dumped it into the eyedropper bottle of DMSO. The bottle was… maybe an inch and a half tall and 3/4 inch in diameter.

I did actually measure again the other day, a couple of days early since I felt I looked bigger and got a bit impatient about waiting until the 15th. I’ve increased in both length and girth since my last measurement a couple of weeks ago.

In August, after Trimix injections 11 of 12 days for a total of just over 48 hours of 90%+ erections and greater than 50% erection for just over 50 hours, and IGF-1 LR3 injections every other day. Oral PABA and topical DMSO. (I’m going to dissolve some PABA in DMSO to give it a try, I just haven’t done it yet.)

BPEL: 8" (up from 1/8" from the end of July)
BPFSL: 8 3/8" (up 1/8" from the end of July)
MSG: 5 7/8" (up 1/8" at the end of July)
Scar and base girth are unchanged.

So again, I can’t say the chemical route isn’t working, however I am also engaged in a dedicated daily routine of manual stretching, higher tension/ short duration extending, as well as clamping and low pressure pumping during my Trimix sessions. So I also can’t say that it is the chemical component. But the gains have been coming relatively fast based on my history.

What I can say is that the Trimix erections are super intense, and I’ve never pumped or clamped under that kind of pressurized feeling before. Most intense efforts eventually become uncomfortable at the end of a session, but this is a whole other level. It is borderline painful to expand the tunica in the first minute at 5inHg while at a 100% chemical erection and I find myself clock watching almost right away to get through a 10 minute session. And clamping, forget about it. Woof. It is intense.

I also wonder if a 4-6 hour nearly 100% erection is more efficient as an ADS than any other modality I’ve tried. After 2 or three hours of a 100% erection I’m negotiating with myself to hang in there. Getting to five hours, like I did yesterday, is pretty tough.

One thing I’m looking to see if this is valuable is if it helps me past my previous largest measurements. If I can solidly get past 8 1/4 BPEL and into the 8.5+ BPFSL or beyond and can cement then I’ll know I’m getting a benefit. In the past the level of ongoing commitment required to get there and cement hasn’t happened for me, mostly because the amount of time in session and the duration of ongoing work wasn’t compatible with my life and then over time on breaks from PE I’ve decreased back to my previous post-PE baseline.

But this time the gains are coming faster and if they continue then I feel I can cement at a new record size, as this amount of passive PE is really workable in my current life. If my current rate of gains continues I’ll be at 8 1/4 BPEL in a month or so. If they continue, particularly coming this quickly, then shooting past it will be indicative of benefit, at least in my mind. It will tell me that I’m not just getting back previous gains but actually growing from this effort.

I am thinking of wrapping, and have been experimenting with some elastic cloth hair ties that are tubular when cut and I unroll like a cloth condom. I’m also planning on getting some silicon sleeves for that purpose to try them out. I have to figure out the easiest way to deal with a wrap that is both comfortable, stealth and easy access. Skin sensitivity is an issue with Ace bandage, and I’m not sure it’s any better than something less abrasive.


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Good gain do you thin it might be better EQ? I’m using DMSO/PABA topically about 1/4 teaspoon to 1 teaspoon mixed up in a glass jar then applied for roughly 10 mins until it soaks in then wash off in the shower. My penis is softer and easier to stretch after that, give that a go? The DMSO I use is 70% DMSO/30% ALOE so it doesn’t cause skin irritation like 100% DMSO. Can PM the supplier but it was on eBay and in AUS I’m sure you could find one online.

There was a guy on professional muscle forum that did the chem pe route and wrote a massive thread on what he did I can PM you that if you like I don’t think I can post it here.

You can buy soft bandages that won’t irritate the skin the ACE bandage is something iv’e used to keep the penis extended while healing you can stretch with it on and go to the toilet, my thoughts are since you are delinking all that collagen and causing deformation the healing in a extended state could produce faster length gains. You could use a phallson forte If cost isn’t much of an issue that healing extended like that is what you need I feel and the DMSO/PAPA to help the collagen delink.

Also Roneille the guy that has a blog somewhere online made his own divo suits that helped heal in an extended state, he used them for ease of use but iv’e tried them they aren’t that good a bandage would work better.


Last edited by 8incyclops : 08-13-2023 at .

I cant edit my post above but it was 1/4 teaspoon of DMSO to 1 teaspoon of PABA

I feel confident that the gains aren’t better EQ. My EQ is baseline really high, as I am on TRT and take daily cialis. In fact, I always seem to have some trouble holding a 100% erection while measuring, so if anything, the measurements are fractionally smaller than peak EQ. It is pretty consistently the case when I measure that I’m at 90-95% which feels consistent enough to notice a 1/8" change, but obviously it’s the trend that over time that proves it. But so far I think the gains are real.

I do notice that my erection responsiveness is higher for about 12 hours after Trimix. I’m definitely on a hair trigger to a boner. So far it hasn’t led to any issues in public, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it never does…


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Sent you a PM, the patent also said one of the patients took oral Potaba (PABA) daily

Put 500mg PABA in just enough ~70% DMSO to dissolve most of it and applied it topically to the shaft before a 30 minute manual stretch session. Took about 15 seconds to mix it in a little glass jar.

I applied a bit more DMSO than usual and let it mostly dry before starting the session. My unit felt even more pliable than after the typical DMSO application, perhaps because I used more DMSO and the DMSO seems a little more viscous with the dissolved powder so there was a subtle coating effect that took a bit longer to dry. Interesting.

Not sure how this will affect things, but easy enough to do and definitely can’t hurt.

Thanks again to all those who recommended it. I really appreciate this board and the supportive spirit of this community.


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Cool its important I read somewhere DR Adams said it’s needed in the experiment. The DMSO by itself can remove scar tissue with the added PABA that would help a lot more, I did the DMSO/PABA application yesterday and woke up with an erection even after sleeping too late. It’s definitely something im going to do from now on in, 70% DMSO/ALOE with PABA.

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