Hanging: Ride the Fatigue (Blink's Progress)

I’ve gone back to vac ADS.. I’ve stopped jelquing due to time/ convenience, but may go back.. I’m consisently get 7.75" in my bathmate & think with a little effort I should be able to get that outside the tube too (seems logical to me) & perhaps jelqs can help.

I’m still around 7.3" BPEL.. no revelations lately except a shocking amount of girth at my base that I didn’t realize I had gained.. Quick Extender is no good for me / it’s going to be a big project to build a base that actually fits me (my flaccid girth is probably over 6" BEG given how extremely tight the base of the 5.5" extender fits onto it.. and this is even with me cutting a U-shape into the bottom so I can get myself into the device). Given it makes the penis head numb, it’s a no-go for now.

I’m up to 2 hours vac ADS.. for now I gave in & bought a lot of new parts for my stealthformen vac hanger attachment (but I haven’t been hanging).

I’ve now lost 22lbs in 7 weeks, been average 3lbs per week with Ketosis, intermittent fasting, cardio & lifting.. I was up to 265lbs a couple years ago; it’s been a long journey of ups & downs.

I’m thrilled to be at 185lbs now — I can see the veins again standing out from hands up through forearms, biceps & shoulders (extremely good vascularity now). 2 days ago I was walking out of a restaurant with friends and an extremely attractive blond woman was just staring at me as I walked out — that didn’t happen to me when I was fat.

I estimate bodyfat is 11% @ 185lbs, and am targting bodyfat 8% @ 179lbs which I expect to reach by middle of next month. I’ll go get a Dexa scan to verify.

Then, I can finally add weight loss as "done" on my todo list.

Today I measured BPFSL for the first time in 4 months and I went from 7.2" to 7.75"..

Maybe it’s time to do jelqs again because although I get the full 7.75" inch in the bathmate, I can’t do it outside the bathmate.

I’m open to advice on converting BPFSL gains to BPEL gains..

Hey, congrats on your weight-loss and BPFSL gains… both very impressive.

I’m open to advice on converting those gains too! At the moment, I measure about 0.5" extra in BPFSL (compared to BPEL). Maybe it’s just one of those things(?)

Thank you SD85, the weight loss has been amazing for me, I feel the best I’ve felt in about 20 years.

Regarding converting BPEL to BPFSL, my entire PE career until now, my BPEL was always beyond my BPFSL.. and I agree, it’s "one of those things" because long time PE’ers usually eventually get BPFSL well beyond BPEL, I think I’ve seen some people with over 1" of BPFSL or more beyond BPEL.

Some people believe Jelqs can help convert gains, and my BPFSL getting so far ahead of my BPEL strongly correlates with me stopping jelqs. I’ll start jelqing again & see if it makes a difference.

Congrats Blink! I am in that camp. My BPFSL usually trends around 1” past BPEL for me. It’s been that way pretty much the whole time with BPFSL gains occurring first then BPEL shortly afterwards. I really don’t know the mechanics of why it’s like that for some and your situation for others. Would be interesting to eventually get a better understanding of that as PE gets more widespread.

Really interesting Bumstubs… This feels like one of the mysterious poorly understood parts of PE… The consistent thread I also see (that you mentioned) is BPEL gains eventually follow BPFSL gains

I’m down to 182lbs and my waist is 30” now, and the 6 pack is showing though (my chest is 44.5” so it’s a good contrast). I estimate 8.5% body fat.

Nothing fit me so I had to get new clothes… I got some skinny jeans and my wife said “holy shit, your package is looking so huge in those tight jeans, I don’t think I can let you go out wearing those!” (she was joking). More seriously getting to around 6 “ x 5” flaccid (and over 6” base girth flaccid) was only possible with PE.. my flaccid is actually bigger than my fully erect penis was pre-pe.

Just 10 months of pumping is what triggered the major package changes. Of course all forms of PE contributed…

If you are trying to increase flaccid size, don’t skip pumping! I only do 10 minute pumping sessions per day and I take rest days. ’The time commitment isn’t that much, and the gains are incredible.

Can I ask what your exact pumping routine is? I never know quite what to do, lol. I usually pump to the max and hold it for 5 minutes, then let go (so just the suction is holding it) for another 5-10 minutes. Does that sound OK?

Yes SD85, I think that works.. My current routine is 5 minutes building up to max pressure slowly (I don’t fully max out my bathmate any more, i just mean max pressure for the session) then I hold it 5 minutes, then I end the session.

Generally, I try to get to a measure past my BPEL and hold it 5 minutes; it’s my hope that this is helping me grow. My BPEL is 7.3" last time I checked, but while pumping in the tube I’m usually getting to 7.75" and holding that 5 minutes.

The flaccid gains after pumping are incredible; I’ve been pumping 10 or 11 months, and my flaccid is quite a bit bigger… One thing I wonder myself is how much of the "temporarily" pumping gains can translate to permanent gains and how long that will take (months? years?).

I am by no means a veteran of PE, I am doing it for more than a year though.
I have learned a lot on this forum, but the most important thing that I have learned is that PE is such a subjective matter and we are all so different that whatever works great for someone, might be totally inefficient for someone else.

My BPFSL is 0.25" - 0.35" longer than my BPEL.
Normally, my max BPEL is at 6 7/16". But, if I focus on girth for a while (squeezes and high erection level jelqs), I can’t get more than 6 5/16".
However, if I do low-med erection jelqs (40-60%), I can get the 6 7/16" BPEL.

So, my guess would be that you do one exercise, like hanging, which extends BPFSL. Then, you need to cement those gains, in order to "transfer" them into an erect state.
I think overall volume is important, so if you work on your erect state, you will transfer those BPFSL gains into either EL or EG gains.
If you pump, you will increase EG, my guess, and not so much EL. Jelqs are considered to be a EG exercise, I see them as a volume exercise. The erection level you do the jelqs at, will dictate if the cells will enlarge towards length or width. The higher the erection, the more they will expand to cover circumference and the lower the erection the more they will grow longitudinally.

You stretch your flaccid, it goes thin, ofc it will be longer than when that thing gets filled with blood and must expand in all directions.
Imagine you measure your stretched girth, as in you pull your shaft to the left, with your left hand and to the right with your right hand. You can’t really do that, but imagine it. That would be your stretched flaccid width. Your member won’t be so wide in its erect state, though, because the cells won’t be so stretchy in erect state. Not so easy to deform.

Just my 3 cents

Was still just barely short of 8" BPEL while in the bathmate today. Maybe I’ve finally gained BPEL, we will see (7.3" BPEL is still my best outside bathmate).

I’m up to 2.5 hours on my ADS, but not consistently doing it. My biggest issue? When I cut slits in my tape to PE it makes my ADS fall apart (when I pee through it), so really, my limitation is how long I can go without taking a piss (because I don’t want to re-tape / tear-down & re-tape my stealthformen settups.

I had massive weight gain and over the last few years lost nearly 100lbs now, and I find measuring from the top of my shaft can be misleading (due to fat gain/ fat loss, etc), so I’ve been also measuring from the side of my shaft since my return to PE (purely for BPEL growth / progress tracking).

I measured 7.625" BPEL from the top yesterday & today (I was making sure it wasn’t a fluke yesterday, like a ruler bending or me being at a weird angle - I’m also at 7.875" from the side, about 1/4 inch more than from the top, which I’ve been measuring consistently at). It’s interesting how a lot of people say for them with PE, they make a lot of "little jumps", well for the last 6 months I wasn’t measuring over 7.3" BPEL (and I wouldn’t at all call this a little jump). I notice sometimes my gains kick in on rest days — I had a minor blister from (probably?) vac ADS (not sure though) and haven’t PE’d for a couple days.

It’s surreal really for me, during my first run at PE I was hanging a lot, using a lot of weight (far too much in hindsight), using a compression hanger, doing lots of sets & that was painful (in terms of being tedious / time consuming, and I had several minor injuries too).

With my return to PE, my gains have been mostly from vac ADS, and not really that much force either… I was using the total man ADS (for tension) but switched to StealthForMen a few months ago (they have an ADS that’s nice, but somewhat expensive, around $50 just for the device) and their vac hanger is expensive too ($370). Until about 2 days ago I never experiend an injury with it (the injury also may be because I might have accidentally gone 3 hours, but i’m only conditioned for about 2.5 hours, and I noticed being in the device a long time can soften tissues). I started with just 30 minutes and worked very slowly up to 2.5 hours over the last 11 months (5 months ago I was still only wearing the device 1.5 hours).. building up very slowly probably helped prevent injury.

Anyway, just thrilled — I’m most of the way to 8" now (I started at 6" BPEL), so I’ve gained 1.625".

I’ve been really consistent with PE; I may have rest days here & there, & I’m not always on a perfect cadence; most of the time I was 2 days on, 1 day off, but lately I might go 3 or 4 days on & end up with 2 days off.. so I’m consistent mostly in the sense that I haven’t stopped, I’ve kept going, and I’ve taken time off at the first slightest sign of injury. I’m happy I can finally join the 1.5" length gain club (I think most PE’ers never get to 1.5" gains, and far fewer get to 2" and beyond).

Visually, my penis looks way, way bigger than it did when I started; the difference between 6" and 7.625" is pretty striking.

I’m really grateful Thunder created this forum & shared this knowledge, it’s a happy day for me…

As of today, my BPEL gains are 1.625" overall, but I’ve also gained far faster during my return to PE with ADS devices than I did originally with hanging.

I still think hanging is great, but it does make my thread title a little ironic (because most of my gains are no longer from hanging).

Congratulations, Blink! Going over 7.5 is a huge milestone!

It’s interesting to me that you get such good measurements in the Bathmate without full pressure. Do you use the base cushion? I rarely get past 6.75 in my Bathmate but can reach 7.5 in an unpacked leluv cylinder at similar vacuum pressure. It could be my turkey neck holding me back in the BM??