Hanging With Infrared

My routine has changed significantly since I started my previous progress report thread, so I’m starting a new one. My old heat pad was too bulky and was causing me to lose vac pressure while hanging, so I decided to look into different heating devices. A lot of my new routine is based off of information this thread by Solvay1927: Why Near Infrared is better than FIR and US
I would recommend reading through it if you have not already. I picked up a chinese near infrared heat pad that has both 660nm and 850nm wavelengths and supposedly can reach 200mw/cm^2. I’ve been slowly working up in volume to reach what I’m doing for my current routine.
Here is the updated routine I plan to follow:

- Hang for 1 hr/day, 5x/week. For the first 30 minutes, I hang with the IR pad wrapped around my shaft. I take it off and hang with no heat for the last 30 minutes.
- Use an ADS for as long as possible. I am currently wearing it for about an hour and a half, but am adding volume in 15 minute increments.
- Firegoat rolls for every hour I’m spending under vacuum pressure. This is to try and prevent/reduce any discoloration I may experience from vacuum hanging. I probably do this for 3-5 minutes each time.
- No manual exercises, no jeqling, and no edging. Also, if I don’t wake up with morning wood, I’m probably not going to train that day. The goal is 5 hrs/week of hanging, but I also don’t want to overdo it. My goal is to get the maximum volume possible while still being able to recover from each session.

I’m currently hanging with 6 lbs. but will add weight as necessary. I’m planning to increase weights in 1/2 lb increments, and won’t increase the weight more than once per week.
I am going to be tracking everything in a spreadsheet for convenience, and plan to post weekly summaries here. Currently I am only tracking time spent hanging, the weight I’m hanging at, time spent using infrared, and time spent in the ADS. I’m not going to be tracking my pre/post BPFSL because my glans typically have some fluid buildup after hanging which makes the post BPFSL a less reliable measurement in my opinion. I am going to stick to measuring every 4 weeks for more noticeable gains. Is there anything else I should be tracking?

My current BPFSL is around 7 1/2" - 7 5/8", and my goal is to reach 7 7/8" after 4 weeks. 1/4" per month is a lot to ask for, but hey, shoot for the moon right?

Awesome, please report back. I would like to see what this round produces

Here is my summary for the week of 1/7 to 1/13:

Total time hanging: 4 hrs
Total time using ADS: 6.25 hrs
Total time using infrared: 2.25 hrs
Weight used: 6 lbs.

I took Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday off from PE. I had only planned on taking Tu/Thur off, but was very busy Saturday and did not have the time for PE. I’ve also started using the IR heat pad on off days for ~15 minutes. Hopefully this aids in recovery. I am unsure if I will increase the weight to 6.5 lbs. or stay at 6 lbs. I am still feeling a decent stretch at 6 lbs. but I also think I can move up in weight without any issues. Right now I’m leaning towards staying at 6 lbs. and getting 5 hrs hanging time this week.

Summary of the week 1/14-1/20

Total time using infrared: 3.25 hrs
Total time hanging: 4.75 hrs
Total time using ADS: 4.5 hrs
Weight used: 6-6.5 lbs.

I took off Monday and Thursday this week. I was able to hang 5 days this week but had to cut yesterdays workout short due to time. I spent less time using my ADS this week, but used it for 2 hrs on Wednesday. I had a lot of fluid buildup afterwords everything looked fine on Thursday. I’m considering backing off on the volume with the ADS. I also bumped the weight up from 6 to 6.5 lbs. on Wednesday. I measured my BPFSL immediately after hanging yesterday. I measured between 7 3/4" - 7 7/8" BPFSL. I’m super excited about this, but I’m not sure how much of the increase in length was due to fluid buildup, and how much of that will be permanent. I’m looking forward to measuring for real in two weeks. Hoping to hit the 8" milestone soon.

If you measure just where the coronal ridge of the glans meets the shaft you can eliminate the variable of glans edema for measuring post training. Some refer to this anatomic location as the ‘retroglandular sulcus.’

Then do your official measurement, including your full length, on whatever schedule you like prior to training.

The main thing is to eliminate variables, so if you do everything the same way each time you do an official measurement you are golden. But, like you mention, day to day post workout there can be a lot of variation with glans swelling if you are using a vacuum attachment setup.

Not that it matters that much. I just hate getting a little thrill of seeing a milestone that disappears the next time I measure. The let down is also small, but feels slightly more intense than the original excitement…

Summary of the week 1/21-1/27

Total time using infrared: 3 hrs
Total time hanging: 4.75 hrs
Total time using ADS: 3 hrs
Weight used: 6.5 lbs.

I took Sunday and Saturday off this week. Recently, I’ve been taking a rest day every 2-3 days even when I feel like I can still train. I’ve decided to stop taking rest days when I’m not injured or trying to prevent an injury. I was able to hang 5 days in a row with only a minor hit to my EQ this week. My goal for next week is to hang for at least 5 hours.

This is a good idea, but I would rather just do official measurements every 4 weeks. To be honest, I don’t see a point in measuring every day. I’m not a huge believer in measuring strain for each workout. I’ve been hanging long enough to know what it feels like to get a good stretch, and what it feels like when I need to bump up the weights. I like measuring infrequently so it is easier to see my progress. Like you said, it can be disappointing when you measure and it feels like you’ve lost gains. That’s why I try not to measure too often.

Summary of the week 1/28 - 2/3

Total time using infrared: 3 hrs
Total time hanging: 6 hrs
Total time using ADS: 3 hrs
Weight used: 7 lbs.
NEW BPFSL: 7 3/4"

Okay so this week I decided to try hanging Sunday-Friday with no rest days. The results were somewhat mixed. The positives were I felt like I was getting a great stretch during each workout. I also have been adding in more angles into the routine which may be helping too. Instead of just hanging BTC now I’m hanging SO for 15 min, SD for 15 mins, then hanging BTC for 30 mins with no heat. I’ve noticed when I’m hanging that after 10-15 mins at the same angle I kind of stop feeling a stretch. Then when I change up the angle I feel a good stretch again. I’ve also started doing some manual stretches at the end while I’m still fatigued to hit the angles that I have been neglecting (stretching to the side and straight up).

The negatives are my EQ has absolutely tanked. I have not been getting morning wood nor have I noticed any nocturnal erections (but maybe that’s just cause I’m asleep lol). Also I’m only getting to like 80-90% hard when I do get an erection. I’m kind of torn as to whether or not to continue hanging without rest days. On the one hand each session is feeling very productive, but on the other I might not be recovering as well as I could which could be reducing any gains I’m making. It seems like there are some people who swear by taking rest days, and others who think you should always be training if you aren’t injured. Not sure what I’ll do for the next 4 week cycle.

I will be traveling for a few days next week so this seems like the perfect time for a decon break. I’ll take 2-3 weeks off from hanging and will focus on fixing my turkey neck. As for the results, I’m a little disappointing I did not reach my goal of 7 7/8" BPFSL. I gained about 1/8" BPFSL over the past 4 weeks. I think a small decon might set me up for success for the next cycle though. I’m getting super close to reaching the 8" milestone which is very exciting. Also, I got measurement pictures this time, which I regret not doing at the start of the cycle. Maybe I’ll start a milestones thread to share the pictures from last year and show the progress in BPFSL once I reach 8". Also, I didn’t even realize but I’ve finally gone over 7" NBPEL. When I first started doing PE, this was my initial goal. Although I’m really happy with my size right now, I’m probably going to continue to do PE as long as I’m still gaining. I’m kind of curious how far I can take this.

One last thing I want to mention is I read in a thread somewhere that if you wrap your glans with theraband really tightly after vac hanging it completely gets rid of any fluid buildup. This worked super well for me and I think this will allow me to spend more time using my ADS attachment. Just another thing I want to remember for the next round of training.

Summary of the Week 2/4 - 2/10

Total time using infrared: 2 hrs
Total time hanging: 0 hrs
Total time using ADS: 0 hrs
Weight used: 0 lbs.

Nothing much to report this week. I’ve been doing 1-2 15 minutes sessions with the heat pad followed by ~5 mins of manual skin stretches. I’m doing my best to improve my turkey neck situation while I’m taking a break from hanging. Only other thing to note is morning erections returned on Monday. I noted that last week my EQ took a big hit from hanging 6 days in a row. It’s good to see that my EQ returned to normal levels after 2 days of rest. Maybe in the future I’ll just hang every day until I lose morning erections then rest until they return. Then again this could be way more sporadic than just trying to do 5-6 hrs per week of hanging.

Sometimes you have to take care of different problems in order. Dealing with turkey neck now will be easier than doing it later.

Are you keeping a log? For almost all men, there’s some point where EQ does a nosedive. If you’re not expecting any sexual activity in the next two or three days, there’s no downside to just continuing your PE work. If your opportunities are more random, as most are, you can adjust your schedule to stay on the good side of te EQ drop.

Yes, I keep a spreadsheet where I track everything. I might add a section for whether I noticed any nocturnal/morning erections. Up until now I’ve just been making a note of it in the comments.

My concern with reduced EQ is more related whether or not it will reduce my recovery/healing and therefore impede gains. After about day 3 if I don’t take a break I stop noticing morning wood. My dilemma is on days 4 and 5 I seem to have a much more productive workout, but don’t know if the positives outweigh the drop in EQ. I’ve just purchased a pump however, so perhaps I won’t have an issue with EQ moving forward.

Summary of 2/18 - 2/24

Total time using infrared: 1.5 hrs
Total time hanging: 3 hrs
Total time using ADS: 1 hrs
Weight used: 6.5 lbs.

I’m back to hanging after a break. I didn’t get settled in after my trip until Wednesday, so I didn’t get a full week of hanging. I dropped the weight back from my highest last session down to 6.5 lbs. I will start hanging again at 7 lbs. tomorrow. My BPFSL reduced from around 7 3/4 to 7 5/8, but I’m already getting to 7 3/4 post workout. I just ordered a pump online, so hopefully I can throw pumping into the routine this week. Not much else to note.

I record "night wood" which might be present if I get up to pee at night, and "morning wood." I use a simple 1 to 5 scale ranging from 1 (nothing) to 5 (goes "ping" when tapped with a hard object). Mostly I’m 2 or 3 "natural" and 3 or 4 with Taladafil.

My logs haven’t shown any obvious connection between gains and pushing PE past the EQ limit. I don’t do that all that time, but when I do, normal EQ returns in a day or so.

I can assure you, you can pump your way past the EQ limit. That’s generally how I do it.

If you have a vacuum hanger try using the water inside the vacuum Bell trick. It has been a game changer for me.

Could you please share the link for this pad?