Indyman's Journey

I’ve been thinking over the day that my BPFSL was less than my BPEL when starting this hanging routine. That, combined with the fact that I could feel my septum, possibly means I had hit my limit (this is backed up by my historical BPEL measurements). However now I am gaining BPFSL, it is possible I will not see BPEL gains for some time. I say this as it is commonly mentioned that BPEL “catches up” to BPFSL. Will be interesting to see how this plays out!

:: Cycle 1 ::
Weights:
0.32 kg cold for 10 mins
0.82 kg heat for 15 mins
1.32 kg heat for 15 mins
1.82 kg cool for 10 mins

Results:
Pre-BPFSL: 17.6 cm
Post-BPFSL: 18.2 cm
Strain: 3.41% ± 0.80%

Another win today for both pre and post measurements. Cycle growth is sitting at 8.33% which is fantastic. Things are starting to feel a bit fatigued and tight, so fully expecting gains to slow down from here.

Still hanging against the curve, Hoping to straighten out. I guess it is something I should actually measure, otherwise how would I know if it is working or not!

:: Cycle 1 ::
Weights:
0.32 kg cold for 10 mins
0.82 kg heat for 15 mins
1.32 kg heat for 15 mins
1.82 kg cool for 10 mins

Results:
Pre-BPFSL: 17.7 cm
Post-BPFSL: 18.1 cm
Strain: 2.26% ± 0.80%

Final session of week 3 gave a surprise. A welcome additional millimetre on my pre, but lost one on post (I averaged 7 different measurements as they were all over the place). Depending on how the first 2 sessions of next week goes, I might cut things short and start my decon. Seems the magic 8% may just hold true for me too.

Quick cheeky unofficial BPEL measurement today: 17.1cm, which is the same as when I started hanging. At the cycle end I’ll do an official measurement.

This is both a-okay and expected. I may need more BPFSL before BPEL decides to play catch up - so it’ll likely only be toward the end of cycle 2 that I’ll have the potential for any BPEL gains (as most seem to have around 1.5-2.5cm longer BPFSL than BPEL).

It is with dread that I realised I am introducing a bit of pelvic tilt when measuring, since I must lean over to see the numbers on the ruler. I was curious what effect this can have, and briefly measured BPFSL from standing straight up to bent over 90-degrees; There was around 1.5 cm difference between the two extremes, with standing resulting in a shorter length (16.8 vs 18.3). I feel this is important to state at this point in my log, since if there is truly a possible1.5 cm difference it means I cannot explicitly state with confidence that I have gained anything at all (as I may have been progressively tilting more and more each session)!

As can be imagined, this really bothers me since I’ll never have a way to prove my previous measurements/results. Going forward I have devised a method that both allows me to see the ruler markings and keep my pelvic tile angle perfectly identical between sessions – so all measurements from tonight onward should be completely comparable to one another. However I fully expect my new numbers to be less than previously reported ☹ With all of that in mind, I must reconsider my current position in cycle 1. I feel it is necessary to continue hanging until I have enough new and accurate data to determine any trends before deciding to start the decon phase.

The new beginning.

Right, so I have now measured my BPEL at 16.6cm and BPFSL at 16.8cm. A depressingly large chunk lower than previous measurements. However I can now say these values with confidence! I have also decided to rename this as cycle 0, since too many mistakes were made.

:: Cycle 0 ::
Weights:
0.32 kg cold for 10 mins
0.82 kg heat for 15 mins
1.32 kg heat for 15 mins
1.82 kg cool for 10 mins

Results:
Pre-BPFSL: 16.8 cm
Post-BPFSL: 17.0 cm
Strain: 1.19% ± 0.84%

The strain is very low, and this doesn’t even take into account edema from the vac cup. Add in the measurement error and its possible I’m not getting any post-BPFSL after the session. I have decided to finish this week, and if things still look bleak I will take a decon break.

Before posting results, it’s worth mentioning that I changed up my measurement method… Again. The reason was that while my new technique worked, if I ever move to a new place I’ll lose the ability to reproduce it (long story). So I figured out a way to do the minimum 3-point of contact (heels, ass, and shoulders) wall measurement while also having accurate reads of the ruler. The knock-on effect is that my pre-BPFSL is even shorter than previously, which sucks. But at least I can now near perfectly rely on my numbers (can only be improved by figuring out a way of measuring at a set tension).

Additionally I changed the weights, as I was only seeing a difference of 2mm between pre and post last session.

:: Cycle 0 ::
Weights:
0.53 kg cold for 10 mins
1.03 kg heat for 15 mins
1.53 kg heat for 15 mins
2.03 kg cool for 10 mins

Results:
Pre-BPFSL: 16.6 cm
Post-BPFSL: 16.9 cm
Strain: 1.81% ± 0.85%

Apart from the already mentioned pre-BPFSL, introducing and additional 211g to the weights resulted in 1mm more stretch in post, with a good strain improvement from last session. This indicates that I was likely overdue for a weight increase (which was missed due to inaccurate measurements). I’ll likely do the 2 more sessions of this cycle to check if there are any pre gains and then go on a decon. However I think I will leave the pumping phase and have a true 4 week no PE decon.

I started hanging approx 2 months ago and I’ve struggled with the measuring as well, and I’ve changed my measuring technique a few times also. There are so many variables and I find it difficult to believe that there’s any kind of accuracy in this. I get it - if your length is increasing then you’ll eventually see that and your measurements will reflect that though the accuracy will always be suspect. By the way, I am a degreed engineer and I manage a test lab and a quality control department. Anyway, wanted to let you know I have the same struggles. Good luck.

You just have to accept that BPFSL is hard to measure exact the same every time. But over a longer time frame you will see the results. The most important measure is BPEL and that is much easier to measure as long as your EQ is the same. I take some viagra every time I measure BPEL just to be sure to have the best possible EQ.

Indyman, does your penis point upwards when erect?

Thanks for sharing, helps my mind rest a bit easier knowing I am not alone and that others also struggle with this, even qualified and professional engineers (though I’d rather none of us struggle at all and everyone be happy). I’ll see how my new technique goes in terms of consistency and will make comments on here.

I understand Patrik, I just feel that if there is a reasonable way to reduce measurement error then I should be doing all I can to do that. This to me is fairly important with a hanging method as sensitive to toughening as Kyrpa’s . I 100% agree that BPEL is the end goal here. BPFSL is only the way in which we get there (can’t imagine many partners being impressed with how far we can stretch our dick). I’ll have to grab myself some Tadalafil I think!

Yep, slightly greater than 45 degrees from the floor at full-mast. Do you think this may be related to any issues I have been having?

According to this video, if your penis points upwards when erect, there is still room for lengthening. He says that the extra length comes from stretching the ligament that holds the penis at the base and after the ligament is stretched at the maximum level, your erection will point downwards but you will have some extra length. The guy also says that he has gained 1.75 inches in length. Now, looking at your stats you did some growing legthwise, like 1.5 inches which is great man. If i were you, i would just maintain the length and go for girth. Girth is what makes women orgasm.

In my opinion, since the penis itself does not get longer, but the ligament gets looser, hence extra length, i think manual stretching could be better at targeting the ligament?

I will definitely be targeting girth giveitashot, however I feel that I have some length gains left in the tank and my wife is happy for me to get longer. I might even do a pumping/decon phase starting next week.

My results for tonight’s session are below.

:: Cycle 0 ::
Weights:
0.53 kg cold for 10 mins
1.03 kg heat for 15 mins
1.53 kg heat for 15 mins
2.03 kg cool for 10 mins

Results:
Pre-BPFSL: 16.7 cm
Post-BPFSL: 16.9 cm
Strain: 1.20% ± 0.85%

The pre-BPFSL was a solid gain I feel. So there is hope that I don’t need an extended decon break, and can maybe do some light pumping. Post-BPFSL was the same as previous, leading to a low strain. Next session will be my final of this phase, and I suspect the results will the the same as tonight.

Hello friend. I, too, am beginning to explore this concept. Added the guys you mentioned in the first post to my favorites. Just couldn’t find the Tutt theme. Can you share? Do you know any other guys on the forum who also use heat? So I can add them to my favorites. I added you too:) Sorry about my English. I have to do something about it. Because this is the only place with invaluable information.

Thanks for adding me to your favourites Holdion. There are quite a few others experimenting with this method, such as Buckfever. I’ll try remember names and share here.

I was distracted on Friday and did not post my results. They were as expected:

:: Cycle 0 ::
Weights:
0.53 kg cold for 10 mins
1.03 kg heat for 15 mins
1.53 kg heat for 15 mins
2.03 kg cool for 10 mins

Results:
Pre-BPFSL: 16.7 cm
Post-BPFSL: 16.9 cm
Strain: 1.20% ± 0.85%
Growth: Unknown

With some rough guesstimation I believe I gained around 0.4-0.5 cm over this cycle, but there is no way to be sure unfortunately. Next cycle will be better for tracking.

With that complete I now face a fork in the road; pure decon or pumping. I think I’ll risk some light pumping, as I can always switch to a pure decon afterward if hanging in cycle 1 does not produce results (eg experiencing toughening). For now I’ll be pumping for 1.5 hours with a heat pad at 75mmHg pressure (around 3”Hg). I am considering a session of 1 hour heated, and 30 min cool down (still under pressure). I understand it is not the same process as hanging, but I figured why not try it. Pumping phase 0 starts tomorrow, though I’ll likely post only weekly updates.