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Updates.

Just a quick update after 4 days of pumping (tonight being the last of the week). I am slowly building up to 1.5 hours, currently sitting at 1 hour heated and 20 mins cooling. Surprisingly little to no edema at 75mmHg after the whole session. Overall it does not feel too uncomfortable, and probably could jump straight into the full duration but I’d prefer to take it slower.

My IPL is 17.2cm though this is when sitting in bed propped up against a pillow. While writing this I’ve had the idea that at the session end tonight I will try measure my IPL as if I were doing a formal and proper measurement (standing against the wall with minimum 3 points of contact etc). This might require depressurising, repositioning myself against the wall, then re-pressurising. I am curious if there is any difference between my IPL and either BPFSL or BPEL. I won’t bother thinking much further on this until I have tonight’s results. Note, just for completeness, that I currently only pack about 5cm of the tube.

Originally Posted by Don Logan
Edema - my experience, too, with long-term, day-after-day pumping. Either you build up less edema or you’re still retaining much of it from the previous day, not sure about that.


Yeah I am not too sure which one it is. I’d like to say less edema, since I normally get a fair bit on my frenulum but with this I exit the tube with minimal build up.

I wanted to post weekly updates here but there’s honestly not much to report. I have only really started measuring MSEG immediately post pump. Packing height remains at 5cm but I feel that I am closer to packing generally and it will all happen at once. Not sure what other metrics I should be tracking.

In terms of preparing for hanging cycle #1, I feel I should order an FIR heat pad. Reading posts from cbateman and scienceguy makes me feel that while my NIR fulcrum setup *should* would, it is a hassle to do and requires both hands - FIR heat pad requires none AND may be more effective. A brief look on Amazon and I can no longer find the Thermedic brand. Will keep my eyes open.

My “pumping decon” break unfortunately didn’t work out too well as I was fairly busy and suffering from insomnia. Since I do all my PE at night, I generally missed all my session after the second week. So I have decided I will not resume pumping and just wait until the 28th to start the hanging cycle.

Now, on to hanging. This upcoming cycle will use a different heat source: a FIR heat pad. Unfortunately it is not the one suggested by scinceguy here scienceguy - Hanging with FIRe as it was out of stock, but another one that has a removable heating element (which could prove interesting). It also claims 6-14um output. If the Aroma Season one gets back in stock I’ll buy it, since it claims to have a higher maximum temperature than the one I bought, 55C vs 60C, and has been tested by scienceguy (as described here scienceguy - let’s see what happens).

Finally, this time there should be proper and accurate measurements throughout the cycle. Hopefully this will make it easier to adjust the routine on the go.

Quick update. The heat pad arrived but seems it is ill suited to our hanging since the heating element is stiff/solid. So I’ll have to return to the NIR lamp until the Aroma Season one is back in stock.

What I might try is dropping the fulcrum for the first week and checking results. If there is no pre-BPFSL gain I might try reintroduce the fulcrum or take further decon while awaiting a suitable heatpad (also considering the Total Man one, or if it is back in stock the Thermedic).

Originally Posted by IndyMan
Quick update. The heat pad arrived but seems it is ill suited to our hanging since the heating element is stiff/solid. So I’ll have to return to the NIR lamp until the Aroma Season one is back in stock.

What I might try is dropping the fulcrum for the first week and checking results. If there is no pre-BPFSL gain I might try reintroduce the fulcrum or take further decon while awaiting a suitable heatpad (also considering the Total Man one, or if it is back in stock the Thermedic).

Here, it’s available.
https://www.ama … /dp/B082LVQBH1/

Hey Holdion, thanks for sharing. I mentioned it another thread you posted in, but will comment it here too so anyone here may see it. The product listing does not specifically state the head pad is FIR (though it might be, just not advertised).

Given my impatient nature, and the fact that there was a sale - I ordered the Total Man heat pad. Another reason is that this pad was tested by scienceguy (linked two posts back) and indeed has the capability to heat up to 42C (I do wonder how much girth might affect this…).

Now I have to curb my impatience. I wanted to start hanging tomorrow, however I will wait until the pad arrives (likely this week).

Well. Then just to be sure, I’ll order Totalman, too. It will compare our results:)

Originally Posted by Holdion
Well. Then just to be sure, I’ll order Totalman, too. It will compare our results:)

That’s great! Let me know when you get your Total Man heat pad and how well it works for you. As usual, I’ll be posting any results here if you are interested (though I might switch to weekly reporting rather than daily).

My heat pad should be delivered on this coming Monday, so I can start the hanging cycle then. I have been considering the size of my incremental weights, currently 0.5kg weight plates, and how much this might be effecting strain results. The cheapest way to get smaller weights that I can find is from a set of ankle weights (they come with around 10 weighted bags per pair, usually 100 to 300g depending on the total weight): Note this is not my idea, I have seen it mentioned here on Thunder’s. So if I purchased two sets (20x200g) I should be good up to 4kg. However in order to remain scientific about this, it is not a good idea to introduce too many factors at once (new heat source and new weights). Therefore I will only use the heat source for this hanging cycle, and in the next cycle will I introduce the new weights.

One thing that is constantly at the back of my mind is how long I should try the new heat source before stopping and making the decision to extend my decon break. Afterall, the longer we over train, the more toughening we experience and the needed decon break increases. My initial thinking is if I see no gain in pre-BPFSL over the first 2 weeks (10 days total at 5 days per week), then decon for at least 3 months.

Originally Posted by IndyMan
That’s great! Let me know when you get your Total Man heat pad and how well it works for you. As usual, I’ll be posting any results here if you are interested (though I might switch to weekly reporting rather than daily).

My heat pad should be delivered on this coming Monday, so I can start the hanging cycle then. I have been considering the size of my incremental weights, currently 0.5kg weight plates, and how much this might be effecting strain results. The cheapest way to get smaller weights that I can find is from a set of ankle weights (they come with around 10 weighted bags per pair, usually 100 to 300g depending on the total weight): Note this is not my idea, I have seen it mentioned here on Thunder’s. So if I purchased two sets (20x200g) I should be good up to 4kg. However in order to remain scientific about this, it is not a good idea to introduce too many factors at once (new heat source and new weights). Therefore I will only use the heat source for this hanging cycle, and in the next cycle will I introduce the new weights.

One thing that is constantly at the back of my mind is how long I should try the new heat source before stopping and making the decision to extend my decon break. Afterall, the longer we over train, the more toughening we experience and the needed decon break increases. My initial thinking is if I see no gain in pre-BPFSL over the first 2 weeks (10 days total at 5 days per week), then decon for at least 3 months.


You just need one thing that weigh about 250 g. Use it with your 500g weights. You put in 250g and when its time to put on 250 gr you take out 250 gr and put in 500 g and then repeat up to your max.


190416 Bpel 16,5 Bpfsl 16,5 Meg 14,2 Beg 15,0

210312 Bpel 19 Bpfsl 19,6 Meg 14,5 Beg 15,3

___Gain Bpel +2,5 Bpfsl +3,1 Meg +0,3 Beg +0,3

Originally Posted by IndyMan
That’s great! Let me know when you get your Total Man heat pad and how well it works for you. As usual, I’ll be posting any results here if you are interested (though I might switch to weekly reporting rather than daily).

My heat pad should be delivered on this coming Monday, so I can start the hanging cycle then. I have been considering the size of my incremental weights, currently 0.5kg weight plates, and how much this might be effecting strain results. The cheapest way to get smaller weights that I can find is from a set of ankle weights (they come with around 10 weighted bags per pair, usually 100 to 300g depending on the total weight): Note this is not my idea, I have seen it mentioned here on Thunder’s. So if I purchased two sets (20x200g) I should be good up to 4kg. However in order to remain scientific about this, it is not a good idea to introduce too many factors at once (new heat source and new weights). Therefore I will only use the heat source for this hanging cycle, and in the next cycle will I introduce the new weights.

One thing that is constantly at the back of my mind is how long I should try the new heat source before stopping and making the decision to extend my decon break. Afterall, the longer we over train, the more toughening we experience and the needed decon break increases. My initial thinking is if I see no gain in pre-BPFSL over the first 2 weeks (10 days total at 5 days per week), then decon for at least 3 months.

Kyrpa wrote on this subject. When your post bpfsl stops growing, you do 10 more workouts. Then your rollback will be minimal. He found a scientific rationale for it. As always))

Just received an update and my TM pad should be here today! The pedantic part of me wants to wait until Monday so I can have a full week exercise, while the impatient part wants to start tonight… Will likely wait as 2 days will not achieve much but we’ll see how strong this resolve is by this evening…

Originally Posted by Patrik_16
You just need one thing that weigh about 250 g. Use it with your 500g weights. You put in 250g and when its time to put on 250 gr you take out 250 gr and put in 500 g and then repeat up to your max.

That’s a good idea! I’ll definitely be doing this technique, as I’d hate to spend more right now. From my last post I am just wondering whether I should start this immediately or not (since I am already changing so many variables). I’ll think on it, but at least the option is available when I want it, thanks!

Originally Posted by Holdion
Kyrpa wrote on this subject. When your post bpfsl stops growing, you do 10 more workouts. Then your rollback will be minimal. He found a scientific rationale for it. As always))

Awesome, thanks Holidon. That’s a perfect set for me then. Hopefully I won’t need further decon but we’ll see.

Today was meant to be a grand day, starting the new hanging cycle and using the new FIR heat pad. Unfortunately I went a little too hard too fast and formed a gnarly blister on my glans (spot of blood was visible too).

I’ll take a minimum of 4 weeks off. I could maybe get away with 2 if healing goes well, but 4 is safer and I might as well take advantage and turn this into an extended decon break.

Ouch sorry to hear that! Have you been taping your glans before hanging? May you heal quickly.

Originally Posted by Meat_Slinger
Ouch sorry to hear that! Have you been taping your glans before hanging? May you heal quickly.

It’s alright, it doesn’t actually hurt (other than my pride).

I do not tape, but I use a “clone” of the penimaster pro which uses a diaphragm and sluice system, with the diaphragm acting a similar role to taping. However, I think the combination of heavier weights than I am used to, longer duration than I am used to, and the fact that I may have let in a small air pocket contributed. Given this, I get another blister I will look into getting a more standard vac system.

For anyone interested on how I am treating my glans blister:
I decided to pop the blister, as I am uncut I felt that rolling the up the foreskin put a lot of pressure on the blister (especially true the morning after with edema). I was concerned it might burst when I was out and about… which would not be ideal as the fluid was bright pink/red (ie a blood blister). Washed hands and glans, then I thoroughly sterilised a needle with isopropyl alcohol (make sure you also get the tip and not just the needle shaft) and made two small holes in the blister at opposite ends. Then pushed the liquid out from one side to the other. Left the blister skin attached, though it is wrinkly due to being stretched from fluids it is at least flat. Dabbed up any mess, and applied some antiseptic cream.
This is where I am at now. In a few hours when the blister has sealed up I will gently wash my glans, let air dry, and reapply the cream. Going forward I will clean and apply the cream a couple/few times a day until I see signs of healing - then I’ll back off and let time do it’s thing.

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