Paul H.'s progress log

Thanks. I’m feeling pretty inspired myself.

A quick correction: the cooldown stretch I alluded to a few posts ago wasn’t from Kyrpa’s thread. It was from Longerstretch’s thread here:

The Long Game: Learning with Longerstretch, Key Principles to Make Sustained Growth

I’m doing that "cyclic stretch" after each session. The nominal plan is to do sessions right after I get home from work & do cyclic stretches in the shower between soaping off & whatever else. Longerstretch also contributed to my monitoring of my BPFSL post-workouts.

I also utilise this cool down in my sessions and feel it is very effective.

Had a few days alone & took my time with everything. Finally got a lig pop yesterday but don’t think it meant anything. Impulsively did a dry jelq at a lower angle & it popped. No pain or swelling. I read a bunch of threads about them here that night & moved on.

Heated up thoroughly today & reheated from all angles between stretches. After my stretches I twice measured my BPFSL at just under 7 1/4, noticeably past 7 1/8. I credit this to the thorough reheating between stretches & positioning the lamp to best effect during a stretch.

My post-stretch token dry jelqs are gradually morphing into a girth routine. I just keep going for several minutes, switching hands when tired & not counting reps or timing it. Did this under the lamp today & edged a bit under the lamp afterward. Repeatedly measured my MEG at 5.5 & my BPEL at a smidge past 6 3/4. This is all in a heated, freshly stretched & expanded condition, edged to maximum size, so I don’t count it as real world gains. But I’m quickly becoming a believer in heat being…well, exactly what Firegoat’s sig says it is. Holding my unit as close to the heat as I can during & between stretches is now a key element of my PE.

I’ve been an easy girth gainer so far & read that 5.5 is where thick begins, a few humblebragging dissenters notwithstanding. After getting that temporary measurement I went on a binge, reading a couple of older threads on that girth measurement & general “what is big” type threads. So its real tempting to just sorta “let” it happen by keeping that dry jelq & edging session where its at. I went from 5 1/8 to 5 3/8 in 4 months back in 2016 & all of that stayed cemented for my roughly 3 year layoff. So I’m tentatively gonna press on & shoot for around 5 5/8 or whatever will cement out to an easy, legit 5.5. I should be able to gain 1/4 or so under my fancy new heated routine if past performance is an indicator & then slide back into a reduced dry jelq-edging recovery routine to cement it while my stretching campaign rages on. Thats the plan, anyway.

I measured cold today after 48 hours of no PE activity. BPEL is up to 6 3/4 & MEG is still hovering a bit above 5 3/8.

Measured after almost 48 hours off from PE, maybe 2 hours before today’s session. Same length but girth was just below 5.5. And BPFSL was just under 7 1/4. Girth is done every other day. I stretch & do a few light dry jelqs or edge on the in-between days or take the day off depending on what my work schedule allows.

My post-stretching girth moves are roughly: 10-20 slow dry jelqs followed by a 30 second Uli hold, repeated 3 times. I was digging up threads on Ulis today & realized that I haven’t been doing an Uli#3 or whatever I thought the word Uli meant all this time. What I’ve been doing is: getting an 80% erection, taking a tight OK grip (thumb side to pubic bone) at the very base, kegeling hard before clamping down & completely cutting off the blood flow for 30 seconds. I pull away from me lightly to increase the pressure but my fingers don’t move up the shaft like a jelq. I might occasionally close my other 3 fingers a bit if I feel the pressure needs to be increased, too. Its basically a manual clamping session. I call it an “Uli hold”. I’ve come across the term “Uli squeeze” somewhere & that might’ve been this same exercise.

I’ve added two 50 second sets of A-stretches to my routine, done on a Lengthmaster. I do them after the BTC stretches. The 1st set is done at the base, the second maybe an inch further up. I’ve also added 2 sets of bundled stretches (1 set twisted in each direction) after these on girth days (every other day) to further pre-stretch the tunica.

I’ve read & a ton on this site in the last few months & my ideas about pursuing length before girth have migrated to pursuing both simultaneously. I’ve been influenced by several respected posters from more recent threads (from the past few years) seeming to hold this position after 2 decades of that question being batted around on this site. This site is old & deep enough that you could almost quantify eras or epochs of PE knowledge & see gradual, aggregate consensuses develop on this or that issue. The rest days & decon issue in particular seems to have gone from up in the air at the beginning to completely settled these days.

BPEL is a solid, consistent 6.75 or slightly above, BPFSL is now consistently 7.25 after stretches, & MEG is 5.4, 5.25 at the base.

I reread my log here. I managed to gain 0.5 BPEL & .25 MEG in my 1st 6 months back in 2017 before falling off for 3 years(& only lost 1/8 BPEL & no girth in that time). Assuming 3 years off completely reset my tissues for newbie gains, I could see 7.0 BPEL & 5.5 or a bit more by April if things remain stable around here.

Mitigating in my favor on this is my being single & living alone, allowing me to pursue the exact routine I want, & having plenty of time to heat between sets, in particular. Thats the biggest improvement for me this go-around. Potentially mitigating against me is the issue of early lig gains. If those are a real issue & were mostly realized in that first half inch, I could hit a plateau sooner (got the tunica-targeting A-stretch going partially with this in mind).

The speed of my progress in these last 2 months gives me hope, though. I came back at 6.5 & regained 6 5/8 quickly & just sprinted to 6.75 (I remember what felt like a long stall at 6.5 last time). This feels like the middle of newbie gains again. And, after the first 2 weeks or so of shower routines, this time around I’m using heat way more effectively, heating the tissue an inch from a much better heat source at all angles between sets.

Measured cold today after 36 hours of no PE, right before today’s session. I’m at 6 7/8 (6.875) BPEL now, a gain of 1/8 (.125) in roughly a month. MEG is just under 5.5. The gold metal end of the tailor’s tape was just behind the black 5.5 hashmark without touching it. Using freedom units prevents me from recording a lot of growth between those hashmarks.

I’m settled into a 3 on, 2 off schedule with girth done on the 1st & 3rd days & my time is up a bit on my stretches. SD & BTCs are 100 seconds. But the fulcrum stretches & those uncounted 30 second “cyclic stretches” done while cooling down are the biggest increases I’ve made in my total time under tension.

A lot of conventional PE wisdom is playing out for me. Gains in BPFSL have preceded BPEL gains. Gains have been showing up on days off after 36 or 48 hours of no PE. This growth spurt came after starting a bit over 2 months ago after 3 years of no PE, so this is functionally another round of noobie gains. The whole lig gains theory is kinda up in the air, though, because I’m not sure how much you’re supposed to have or when they would run out. I gained exactly .5 in BPEL before falling off & all but .125 of that stayed cemented for 3 years off. Right now I’m up to a total gain of .75 BPEL over my pre-PE length. My eventual plateau will likely be from tissue toughening & noobie gains running out & I’m not sure how to conceptually shoehorn lig gains into the overall picture.

Also, I came across DIY cryolipolysis or “coolsculpting”. Basically killing fat cells spot removal style with ice wrapped in a thin trashbag & held in place for an hour or more per session. Its cheap, simple, & it seemed worth finding out if it works. So I hit my fat pad with 2 sessions on consecutive days on the 4th & 5th. Its an inch thick now & I’ll start tracking it beginning in a month or so. Supposedly it takes a few weeks to see any results & around 90 days to really notice it.

Measured cold after 48 hours of no PE, Took citrulline & tongkat ali right when I got home from work to ensure my EQ would be there later when I measured. BPFSL is 7.25 or a tiny bit more. BPEL is at 6 7/8 or a tiny bit more & MEG is finally up to 5.5.When I finally hit 7.0 BPEL I’ll add pics.

Wow talk about a routine. First thing in the morning last thing at night

Nice, keep at it, the 7” club is right around the corner.

No progress since my last gain. And my last session just felt forced & unproductive. Gonna take the week off. Thinking of sliding back to a 2 on, 1 off schedule, too. 3 days in a row kill my EQ & sometimes leave my skin raw. I’m changing jobs & schedules again so this break will leave me with one less thing to juggle in the middle of the chaos.

No gains since my last cold measurement a few days ago. I fell off on my kegels & I’m hoping my EQ dipped enough to hide gains. But my newbie growth spurt seems to be slowing down so I’m sorta fumbling around for a change-up. Tried hanging briefly with the hanger portion of the Lengthmaster but I got too much slippage with or without wrapping. I probably should’ve spent a few more days tweaking the wrapping but I’m still wanting to exhaust manuals completely first.

For now I’m doing a length day which consists of bundled stretches straight out (60 seconds each side) & BTC (really behind each glute for 2 minutes each), & golf weight fulcrums. With the fulcrums I use 1 golf weight at the base left, right & down for 60 seconds & then repeat with 2 golf weights stacked. Same heat & warmdown protocol as before.

Girth days are every other day if work permits & consist of the same bundled stretches as length days. Then I do 10-20 dry jelqs followed by a 45-60 second slow squash jelq, repeating this superset 3 times. With the slow squash jelq, I’ve found that I can do a sort of slinky movement between my palm & the tourniquet grip, hopefully giving an effect similar to Orange bends or Sadsak Slinkys. I’m still at 5.5meg cold & get temp expansion to 5.6 with them. Schedule is 2 on, 1 off as long as work doesn’t interfere.

Started a decon on the 15th. Shooting for maybe a month. Hopefully it’ll kickstart a little fresh growth & I’ll get to see what was cemented & how much I lose in a short decon. I have a friend staying over for a few weeks so this is making the most of that interruption.

I’m approaching this decon as a new tool & figuring out it’s parameters for my tissues. I know my 3 year decon brought me back from a total plateau to newbie gains. Now I’ll get to test out it’s shorter term potency & maybe dial in my decon sweet spot over time.

Starting back after almost 5 weeks off. I have a house guest for a few more weeks so I broke this decon with a very brief shower session after work. 40 seconds SO, 50 seconds SD, & 20 slow side to side cranks. No girth work.

I measured my BPFSL immediately afterwards while still warm & stretched. Easily above 7.25. Maybe 7 3/8 if I really pushed it. I measured several times just to make sure I was doing it right. I was barely hitting 7.25 for a while after workouts before the decon & expected to lose a bit, or at the very least not be hitting my max BPFSL after less than 3 minutes of stretches under shower water. Not sure what to make of it but I’m feeling fired up & positive again after that. Nothing more of substance to report but I wanted this interesting data point to be noted.

I’m 2 sessions into my new PE campaign since my 5 week decon. Using the lamp to preheat, then its bundled stretches both ways straight out for 45 seconds each, same straight down & BTC, 20 side to side stretches unbundled, & then maybe 8-10 slow dry jelqs to finish & 10 minutes of gentle stretches straight out & down as my tissue returns to room temperature.

My rough measurements afterwards put me around 6.875 BPEL & 5.5 MEG, so nothing much lost to my 5 week decon. I’ll check again cold today to be sure.