Jelqing has destroyed my life A warning.

Would you care to give us an update on your situation, Willy? Your last post was 2013 and it would be good to know if you are improving or potentially instructive if you have more information.

I have a pet peeve about people ‘in the shadows’ because of how someone on the forum talks. That’s just the way we talk bro, strong, like the army. I, the master will defend young impressionable minds and not because I want to terrorize them myself :S.

Everything with a payout has risks, so we try our best to keep the members safe, but making nasty remarks to us doesn’t help. A very defining aspect of achievement is attitude. For example if you’re always negative you’ll probably attract some more negativity, but you stay happy there’s a chance for contagion of joy.

Some extremely worrying individuals on this forum.

- Inability to achieve full erection and difficulty keeping hold of erection remains the same
- Loss of sensitivity in penis shaft remains the same
- Loss of sensitivity in scrotum remains the same
- Painful glans and painful ejaculation remains the same
- Loss of size of size remains the same

The only improvement has been in the “firmness” aspect of this has improved by about 30% over the past 7 years. It’s still there but does not “cramp” up and become firm as much as it did in 2009. My penis, however, still never seems “full” in it’s flaccid state as it naturally should, it’s limp with reduced blood flow.

I had a session with a pelvic physiotherapist but did not yield any initial positive results; she was the other side of the country so I haven’t been able to follow that up but intend to when my finances permit.

For the eternal cynics on here I’ve attached another of the pm’s I receive every time I log onto here from another young man struggling with the same problems after two jelqing session, I have sent him an extensive reply, as I do with others when I can, and I truly hope it gives him some peace of mind. I have not included his name in the attachment.

Thanks for the update.

I’m sure you consider this so I hope it doesn’t seem blunt but probably the majority if not all your recovery has now happened and what you are now is the new normal. You’ve talked in the past about the other problems this has caused for you but are you finding peace in where you are now?

I made it as far as I could - page 24.

Your problem is mental and not physical. You’ve seen dozens of doctors and specialists. You’ve got input from dozens of PE vets. All of them agree on one thing. There is no fucking way that you physically damaged your penis to the extent of your situation by doing 20-30 mild jelqs.

Read the book “The Brain that Changes Itself” by Norman Doidge.

I had a knee injury with a chronic pain condition afterward that lasted for 3-4 years. I worked with a physical therapist, who told me my leg had already completely healed in the physical sense, and all the pain was in my head. We’re talking life-fucking pain here. Can’t walk, wake up in the middle of the night kind of pain, with no relief for years not even for a single minute, that bends your soul and taints all of life’s relationships with bitter self resignation. IOW exactly the way you’ve expressed your feelings toward your condition in this thread. So when he told me it was all in my head, I had the same knee-jerk (no pun intended) opposition to that notion that you had.

I fought him tooth and nail on this for the first 2 years, all the while doing my physical therapy. Never believing he was right (although imaging confirmed it) or that it would work, not noticing much improvement. Well in the third year my pain began to “unwind” itself. And the way it happened left no doubt in my mind that my therapist was right all along. My brain had developed certain beliefs (on a deep neurobiological level that is indistinguishable from perceptual reality) developed certain behaviors, and thought patterns around my knee. It was protecting me from re-injuring it with these behaviors, but its way of protecting me was to flash a constant pain signal so that I wouldn’t use the knee. Its protection was worse than the threat.

Anyway, I say my pain began to unwind because it took another year or two for it to completely go away. Even as I began to accept on a conscious level that the process of overcoming the pain was the process of retraining my brain to correctly communicate with my knee again, it still took time. It took tends of thousands of repetitions of activities that SHOWED my brain at a subconscious level that my knee was OK. And it took gradual re-exposure because if I just tried to jump up in the air from the beginning - it would have caused a TREMENDOUS perceived pain in my knee that would have reinforced my subconscious protection mechanisms. So I had to eat away at this false subconscious belief my brain had bit by bit.

Anyway, I know your dick is not a knee so don’t call me an imbecile ;) . My point is that you’ve attacked this every possible way from the physical direction. If it were me and I were facing such a life-destroying situation, I’d be working all the avenues.

So if you’ve got nothing to lose, why not try progressively exposing your penis to the “threat”. Perhaps start by lightly massaging. Then some days or weeks later start lightly pulling on it or lightly squeezing it. Make the goal to prove to yourself that you’re not “re-injuring” your penis. Work your way back up to jelqing or if you’re not comfortable with that, maybe just some more forceful stretching. The goal being to expose your penis to considerable forces in order to train your mind that it is not this fragile broken thing that you’ve come to believe it is (on a pre-conscious level). Since the problem has been festering for years it may take years to unwind it. In other words you may still feel pain or numbness or less of erection as a result of the exercises, but as long as they are not getting worse (or recover to their previous levels within a few days) then you’re not losing anything but there’s some chance that over time your brain realizes the penis is not injured.

I know you said your initial symptoms were utterly inconsistent with any type of psychosomatic condition. But man, the spiritual and mental condition is unfathomably complex. Infinitely complex. Maybe you did have a real injury that first day. Maybe your mind perpetuated it on a pre-conscious level for all this time for some reason you’ll never know or understand.

That book recommendation will help. Trauma therapy techniques might help too. Hope this post helped somewhat. Keep an open mind. Always maintain hope. Try everything.

P.S. I now live pain free, but in the depths of my pain, that was just the smallest, faintest kernel of a dream that I hung on to with the tiniest shred of belief. Predominantly I had resigned. But as long as you believe enough to take the next step, and put one foot in front of the other, maybe years from now you’ll find yourself standing somewhere good again.

Where is throwaway 69?

Mr. Wonka, I apologize if I offended you.

It’s just I think you are either just fucking with us, or your issue is strictly mental.

Bearded Dragon made an awesome post. Take your time and read it, if this is the case.

If it isn’t please stop fucking with us.

This thread was one of the first ones I have read a year ago. Even back then I was skeptical. That is just me.

If you are really still in pain, you are doing something wrong mate. Figure out what is that and fix it.

Thank you BD, I greatly appreciate it, understand it and am absolutely open-minded to it.

You’ll realise though that I am taking several steps to combat the mental aspect of this problem but I’m sorry I will never ever stretch or pull my penis again.

More diagnoses.

You didn’t say which medical field you’re in, bill?

I don’t think I’ve damaged my actual penile structure.

I think the best possible guess here based on the limited data available is jelqing causes a reaction of the muscles of the penis or deeper in the pelvic floor which in turn compresses nerves and restricts blood flow.

To a urologist with little to no experience of this kind of problem, and believe me I’ve seen several in this country including the top man in the field, there would appear to be nothing wrong with the penis. Why would there be if he’s never seen the problem before he doesn’t know what he’s looking for does he?

All I can tell you is I jelqed once and in an instant I encountered these problems. Not hours or days later- instantly. And as much as certain individuals on here would like to prove otherwise, I am not the only sufferer- my inbox on here is testament to that as is the online hardflaccid community of which I am a member.

Mr. Wonka I have nothing personal with you.

My job is to spot and analyze patterns. Let’s just stay to that.

Your last post on this thread was 23/10/2013.

No update until throwaway made a post about a similar issue. Throwaway, didn’t make any other post about it.

You on the other hand, responded immediately to my question to throwaway, if he is the same guy, when for the past 2 years you were not active.

Now either you were lurking here, which I find odd, cause, you know PE destroyed your life, or throaway informed you somehow, or you are throwaway.

Perhaps I am forgeting something as a possiblity

Which one is it?

Anyway, PE didn’t destroy your life, if your life is indeed destroyed, most likely you did it by yourself. Accept this fact. See how you can fix it.

If many doctor say your penis is fine, it’s fine mate. Get over it. Please read thorougly again Bearded Dragon’s post.

This all sounds like a troll thread bras, I say we destroy it

Empathy bypass, Poon?

I was rid of that horrible syndrome through generic splicing. Anything generic is unnatural to me, that’s why I keep it one hundred.