Gain .5 inch/month with no excersizes

http://www.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov/en … 4&dopt=Abstract

There are a lot of articles about PE on this site. You guys have probably read most of these.

Yes thanks. Topical T and DHT have been used sucessfully for decades on boys with micropenis.

http://www.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov/en … 8&dopt=Abstract

I wish they would do this test on adults! Actually, I guess you guys are doing this test.

http://www.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov/en … 1&dopt=Abstract

Check this one out!!! Finally some testing on postpubertal males!!

Average penile growth response with gonadotropin was 14.3% increase in length and 5.0% increase of girth. Topical testosterone produced an average increase of 60% in penile length and 52.9% in girth. The greatest growth response occurred in prepubertal male subjects with a minimal response in postpubertal male subjects. This study suggests that 10% topical testosterone cream twice daily will produce effective penile growth. The response appears to be greater in younger children, which is consistent with previously published studies of age-related 5 reductase activity.

Actually it has been studied. The article has mysteriously disappeared from every library in my state.

Jacob SC, Kaplan GW, Gittes RF: Topical testosterone therapy
for penile growth. Urology 6:708-710, 1975

Anyone have the 75’ on hand? The study probably proved it was effective, because it is called ‘therapy’.

On another note, I believe I have theory about masturbation. We know that ejaculation causes your body to increase sperm production. Ive just read a few articles about androgen receptors and spermatogenesis. They talk about how androgens bind to receptors which then activates sperm production. Perhaps if you abstain from masturbation, your body stops putting effort into constantly having fresh sperm, thus freeing up androgenic power for other tasks. It is just a theory. My advice is, do it every 14 days. That matches your T cycle.

“Average penile growth response with gonadotropin was 14.3% increase in length and 5.0% increase of girth. Topical testosterone produced an average increase of 60% in penile length and 52.9% in girth. The greatest growth response occurred in prepubertal male subjects with a Average penile growth response with gonadotropin was 14.3% increase in length and 5.0% increase of girth. Topical testosterone produced an average increase of 60% in penile length and 52.9% in girth. The greatest growth response occurred in prepubertal male subjects with a minimal response in postpubertal male subjects”

“greatest growth response occurred in prepubertal male subjects with a minimal response in postpubertal male subjects”

I have actually already posted this study (somewhere). But still, your obviously doing your homework, its what I did, and I was rewarded with a bigger dick. ;) . The key here is “minimal response “, is that 10, 15, 20 percent? Could be 2%. Ill try to find that article.

Bingo. Found the study you posted, skeetersonme. We will know exactly what ‘minimal’ is in a day or so.

Jones8315-

Have you read this one! Any input?

http://www.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov/en … 2&dopt=Abstract

Thanks, no I havent read it. Its interesting. Too bad we can get our hands on IGF1.

This is getting more interesting all the time.

After a week on the sauce, I can’t tell if I’ve made any significant improvements (due to my pumping, my cock doesn’t know what size he is anymore), however one thing is somewhat curious…

Flacid, is…well, huge!

That could be due to the Arginine/pumping, however. When I walk around, I actually feel the weight of my dick. Probably the increased circulation…

No negatives to report, although I do find myself feeling a little impatient with the universe.

(That’s probably the equivalent of roid rage for this Zen monk)

Later,
N.

Yeah, flaccid size and vascularity are things that we should see. Those androgens are increasing blood blow to the penis.

Jones8315-

Why can we not get IGF-1? Also, is this stuff crap ()? Is it anything like IGF-1? Just your opinion!

What do you think about the test prop? Should I try it or just buy the 4ad? Would there be any benefit from trying the test prop over 4ad?

Hey Jones,

GNC sells a product called Testrogel. It sounds like similar to the producst under discussion and it does contain Andro. Are you familiar with it? If so does it contain the same amount of Andro as the A-derm stuff? Which would you recommend, or are they all interchangeable as long as they contain Andro?

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Found that study. In the 17 year old, which the article refers to as, postpubertal, his growth was 27.2 %, which a post-therapy length of about 7 inches.

Whether or not 17 is post-purbertal is in question.

The authors theorized that the penile skin looses its ability to convert T to DHT, and thinks thats the reason why younger ones responded better.

Testrogel? I found this on a site:

Q: Why don’t the labels provide the exact amount of each TestroGel ingredient?

A: We have provided the ingredient list from each box and that is all that Klein-Becker USA and NutraSport have provided us with. We can only guess that both companies are protecting their patented formulas by not giving the specific amount of each ingredient.

Now that, is a heaping load of BS. It probably contains androgens, but, 1. I would never take something without know whats in it 2. I would never touch something I don’t how much androgens mg/ml are in it. What person would take a dose of andro that needs to be kept secret from them.

That is horrible.

skeetersonme: IGF-1 from deer antlers? more BS. I tried that product a while ago, did nothing.