I wanted to drop in and report my results with the “Holy Grail” stack. I’m a 50 year old male and I’ve been on TRT for a few years. Prior to starting TRT I was having fatigue, lower libido, weight gain, fewer occurrences of morning erections, pretty much all the typical low-T symptoms. TRT has fixed everything and I’m doing fine now. Through the course of researching various TRT forums and whatnot this legendary thread showed up, so I thought I would just add my story.
My regimen:
Regular once-weekly Test Cyp injection as per my endocrinologist. My T levels are 600-800+ and all is normal.
I take a Statin (Crestor), low dose.
I take Vitamin D daily, that’s about it.
I did the standard “Holy Grail” stack from the original post. But WITHOUT the Pygeum. What I did to start:
1. Took the supplements daily, usually in-between meals in the afternoon (2PM ish).
2. Waited several days before sex, I believe it was 4 or 5. My wife and I are busy and have kids around, so our opportunities get limited especially during work week anyway.
3. Trying for fun to boost my volume, I edged for 5-10 minutes once or twice daily.
4. I had fun with this experiment, and anticipated the event when I would “test” my output. This general level of horniness and expectation I think probably had to do with increasing the semen buildup/accumulation. The novelty and fun might contribute to the early success of this regimen.
I didn’t measure my output or anything mathematically, but as my whole sexual life my ejaculation has been basically the same (and my wife, who is used to my typical “load” can also attest) I have basically a 1-shot burst and 3 or 4 dribbles type of ejaculation profile.
On the day in question we finally had sex on the sofa. When it was time to deliver the goods I pulled out, and my wife sat up quickly to give me access to her chest area, which is usually her preferred target. At first, all was as usual. I felt a pretty good contraction and my first shot hit her in the chin/neck area, then I dribbled three or four more times onto her chest.
This is where it got interesting! It was as if an extra reservoir of spunk dropped in from somewhere … I shot again, with enough force to hit her forehead, her hair, her eyes, it was easily another 5 or 6 shots directly to her face. The consistency was watery, like pre-cum, but holy hell there was so much of it. Her face was drenched, she couldn’t open her eyes and she started breathing through her mouth, like she had just emerged from a swimming pool or something. I had to run and get her a towel to mop up with, and she commented she had never seen anyone cum that much (I take it she was comparing against all past boyfriends as well, so take that. Haha).
I kept up the routine for a few weeks, and at some point I stopped doing the stack because I just don’t like taking that many pills every day, I don’t like spending the money for it, and so on. I should also note that never again did I have a load as big as that first one. It was probably a combo of all the factors I listed above, not just the supplements themselves.
What I do now:
I take a multi that has plenty of Zinc already, for men. The zinc intake is good for my morning erections and just generally keeping the equipment working.
I take L-Arginine, 1000mg periodically if I think I’m going to have sex on multiple days in a row or something. It seems to help with hardness. I don’t really *need* it but it’s nice to know I have a “dick pill” in the rotation without needing Viagra or anything else.
I will dip into the Lecithin sometimes if there’s a special occasion coming up or some time when I want a bigger load to show off. Wife only likes large loads on her tits, not really anywhere else or in other situations like BJs. So the large load thing is just a curiosity, it isn’t really significant for our sex life. It was a fun experiment.