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The Chemical PE Thread

Originally Posted by lifestyle
My understanding is strict adherence to the Dr. Adams protocol is best for those with no prior PE experience. I believe Dr. Adams said those who had PE’d prior generally did not do well on his program. Would you mind providing a link to any relevant threads with anecdotal evidence on the Franktalk forums? I’m not familiar.

I know Dr. Adams’ most recent recommendations included shorter erections less frequently. Do you know the logic behind that? I believe Ronielle speculated this was for financial reasons (longer repeat customers) rather than actually accelerating gains. I’m open to the idea of shorter erections less frequently. I would like to understand the theory behind it and see data to back it up. I’m currently shooting for 15 hours per week of PGE-1 erections and 20 hours of hanging.

Approximately how many times per day do you apply DMSO/PABA? What is the DMSO concentration? Do you apply heat during your routine? If so, how much and how consistently?

Did your PGE-1 make it through customs?

If Dr. Adams is really getting such great results with his program that he is has the leeway to prescribe variations on it just for the purposes of making extra money, that’s a great indicator that chem PE works. I would think he would otherwise just be doing whatever he can to get results. Surely the best thing for business is results. Patients who get results keep coming back and provide positive reviews. Patients who don’t close their wallets and quit.

Originally Posted by sentii
If Dr. Adams is really getting such great results with his program that he is has the leeway to prescribe variations on it just for the purposes of making extra money, that’s a great indicator that chem PE works. I would think he would otherwise just be doing whatever he can to get results. Surely the best thing for business is results. Patients who get results keep coming back and provide positive reviews. Patients who don’t close their wallets and quit.

Good point. After about three weeks of PGE1 injections, I don’t think Dr. Adams’ decreased duration and frequency recommendation was to increase the treatment length and increase revenue. I think it was simply because very few people will actually be willing to endure 4 hour erections 5 times per week, especially when the erections may be painful.


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Originally Posted by lifestyle
Oils are used for testosterone esters that are meant to be slowly released. Testosterone suspension is unmodified testosterone suspended in bacteriostatic water. It would be injected directly into the dick. However, I believe DHT would be a better choice for this purpose.

Well, injecting testosterone suspension to any dick would be hilarious. It is crystallized form of testosterone and is the most painful shot of all steroids available.
Been using it back in a day and injection site was always inflamed quite badly afterwards.
Oil based esters injected to dick would be a killer solution as oil would get to a bloodstream and through your heart and lungs.
You don’t want to be coughing blood on the floor with it. Been there also


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Well, injecting testosterone suspension to any dick would be hilarious. It is crystallized form of testosterone and is the most painful shot of all steroids available.
Been using it back in a day and injection site was always inflamed quite badly afterwards.
Oil based esters injected to dick would be a killer solution as oil would get to a bloodstream and through your heart and lungs.
You don’t want to be coughing blood on the floor with it. Been there also

Agreed. I previously used test suspension in various muscle groups preworkout. Calves in particular were brutal.


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

I don’t understand this wouldn’t a normal steroid cycle be more beneficial than injecting stuff in your dick. The right test cycle should be enough to supplement pe, I don’t see the need to use pge or any other thing


Start Jul 2016 - 4.5 BPEL x 4.25 MSEG.

Peak - 6.6 BPEL x 5.13 MSEG

Originally Posted by dsdany606
I don’t understand this wouldn’t a normal steroid cycle be more beneficial than injecting stuff in your dick. The right test cycle should be enough to supplement PE, I don’t see the need to use pge or any other thing

It would be surely enough for PE needs . Testosteron is needed as a base but unfortunately it alone is not going to grow a none adult healthy penis at all.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa

It would be surely enough for PE needs . Testosteron is needed as a base but unfortunately it alone is not going to grow a none adult healthy penis at all.

I disagree I already grow my dick without anything. Test would make your dick grow better. Dht based Anabolic test maybe stacked with some hgh should make gains better.


Start Jul 2016 - 4.5 BPEL x 4.25 MSEG.

Peak - 6.6 BPEL x 5.13 MSEG

Originally Posted by dsdany606
I disagree I already grow my dick without anything. Test would make your dick grow better. Dht based Anabolic test maybe stacked with some hgh should make gains better.

I’m currently running test p, mast p, methyltrienolone, and DHT. It doesn’t get much more androgenic than that. I think androgens may potentiate girth gains to a small degree, but not cause a lot of growth on their own. We’ll see.


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Hey guys im looking for DHT cream or gel any reputable online suppliers without a prescription?.

Also started today borage oil and evening primrose oil. 5grams of each a day. Both convert to pge1 wich is great for penis growth. I will consume 4g and topical the other gram of each buy breaking open the capsule and massaging it into the penis.

Originally Posted by Horror1234
Hey guys im looking for DHT cream or gel any reputable online suppliers without a prescription?.

Search and you shall find :)

DHT cream Diktator superpharma


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

Originally Posted by lifestyle
Search and you shall find :)

DHT cream Diktator superpharma

thanks bud i appreciate it.

Alprostadil / Caverject

Where to inject

What is the best place to inject?

Why are you not meant to inject outside the normal areas.

If I inject in the same place can I increase a permanent state of being semi-erect

Originally Posted by growmycock
Alprostadil / Caverject
Where to inject
What is the best place to inject?
Why are you not meant to inject outside the normal areas.
If I inject in the same place can I increase a permanent state of being semi-erect

I think there is danger of nerves and/or veins in other areas but maybe someone else could confirm.

Originally Posted by inuic
The world record holder for Penis Enlargement used 5000iu of HCG ever 15days with the use of traction and even weights. He grew 6 inches. There is something called the masculinization programing window, where your mom programs your genetic potential for penis size. But after your born to compete that potential you need androgens in the proper amounts over time. Now this is the kicker, depending on if you met your potential or not can be the determining factor as to how easy things like chem pe or the Priapus shot will work for you or not. If your not very lucky and got exposed to estrogens of phalates in the environment or you were fat as a kid or teen you might not have got all the adrogens you need to meet your potential. These are the prime candidates for growth with ease from stuff like the Priapus shot and chem PE. Dr Runels doesn’t even know why his shot works or not, but I think I do. Anyway chem pe wont work for everyone the same precisely because of this reason, the MPW. IF you already hit your genetic potential you can still get gains but its a much slower process of using biological creep to kick up Androgen receptors. The reality is if you can increase androgen receptors in the penis and supply the needed androgens you will grow so long you stop or outpace estrogen interference which is anti-androgen. Especially if you didn’t meet the potential programed by your mother in the MPW. The fundamentals of chem pe depend on the production of androgen receptors, if you don’t have enough or have to much estrogen you cant grow. Teens that have not stop growing have the most potential to grow from ChemPE, HGH, Priapus shot, etc, but not sure how ethical it is to reveal it to teens. But they have not shut growth off yet so androgen receptors abound as well as AR mRNA which is also a requisite for any real past maturity growth. When we hit maturity we kick out estrogens that stop androgens and masculinization. Thus DHT no longer find androgen receptors to bind in the mature penis and alas no more growth. But this can be effected via ChemPE! You can upregulate DHT receptors after maturity and you can supply exogenous DHT that can and will bind to these receptors and cause new growth. This is the new science in it infancy, but like light cycle for plants the ratios of this to that hormonally make all the difference. Plants grow with heavy light for more hours, cut that and they stop vegging and start to flower. This is similar, androgen to estrogen and their receptors and their ratios. Keep that faith…

Inuic…

P.S. Folks like Ronielle have tried DHT blockers for hair for a short period of one month, after his noted a surge of growth with external DHT but it was to much growth in terms of girth. So he got length yes, but the girth gains he experienced were beyond what his partners could handle so he gave the method up. But it did work for him and has also worked for others. This is one of the chief known methods to upregulate DHT receptors, so the DHT blockers do not effect DHT per say but the receptors that DHT binds to. This is how they keep DHT out of the scalp where is causes baldness in some men only.

P.S.S

As pertains to HCG…
Penile growth in response to human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) treatment in patients with idiopathic hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism - PubMed

HCG should be able to help anyone that has not met the full potential programed during the MPW. And in sufficient amounts combined with biological creep methods can create gains. The World Record Holder in PE used 5000iu of HCG ever 15days with traction and weights. Traction in cells in known to upregulate androgen receptors and hence meet a requisite condition for any and all human growth. Its the same reason braces work, or the hoops in people ear lobes, or the long neck folks in Africa with rings around their necks. Force over time grows tissue because such force upregulates androgen receptors, couple that with the requisite androgens and wa la you have growth! Until next time…

Peace out…


What was his username, and do you know if he was legitimate and had evidence of such growth?

Also, where did he inject the HCG?

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