The Chemical PE Thread

Yes I got a few outrageously expensive vials of Caverject one time and did about 5 injections as an experiment. Turns out I’m extremely sensitive to it in terms of pain. Combining that with the cost at the time and I wasn’t interested in more. If I could somehow get some Trimix (probably not possible in Europe) or much less expensive pharmaceutical grade PGE1 I might like to try it again. I thought I might wake up 3 hours early every morning to inject and then go back to sleep in order to avoid the pain.

Basically lost interest in PE for about 8 years and am only just now evaluating what I might be interested in doing again. Manual PE didn’t seem to get me much results. Especially in girth. What attracts me about PGE1 is its apparent reliability in producing girth. When you compare PGE1 to most girth exercises I actually suspect it might be safer.

I agree that the pain associated with PGE1 or Trimix is definitely a factor to consider. I have used both, PGE1 from a peptides source that I filtered myself through watson filters (although I’m suspicious of the cleanliness of this method). Then I decided to drop some money on getting a Trimix prescription from a compounding pharmacy. Both hurt about the same and I noticed that increasing the dose usually resulted in more pain as others have indicated. That’s when I decided to stack Trimix with kratom capsules, this resulted in significantly less pain after the injection. Shortly after I ran out of Trimix and I haven’t refilled the prescription since it was $160 for 5ml, added onto the cost of the kratom was very expensive per injection.

In short I ran out of money, but if I had unlimited resources I would definitely go with Trimix and a pain pill such as kratom.

Guys, do you understand that going the Trimix Way is more dangerous (according to some studies that link penile fibrosis to the use of papaverine, and to the large amount of cases of peyronie’s disease caused by use of trimix shots by diabetics who suffered from ED, over Franktalk (forum for ED patients, solely focused on penile injections for sex purpose)? I say this cause injecting for PE sounds way more aggressive to the penis than when used for erection issues

Do you have any links to those studies? I was aware that paperavine has been implicated in some fibrosis in the past. However, I thought the dose would be so low in trimix that it shouldn’t be a problem. This notion is supported by Dr. Adams’ choice of trimix over pge1. Dr Adams has presumably prescribed trimix to hundreds if not thousands of PE patients over the course of many years. In general, the dosages needed for people who do not have ED will be lower than the dosages needed for people with ED. My intention is to always use low doses by cycling off whenever I start to build tolerance. I’d be in it for the long haul rather than taking an aggressive approach.

I think Trimix is less dangerous than just using filtered PGE1 alone. The injections could lead to excess scar tissue if a person injects too frequently which may result in an uneven look. Here’s the strange thing about injections though, if you have peyronie’s disease you are at a higher risk for making your curvature worse by injecting into the dominant side, the longer side. On the other hand when you inject in the non-dominant, shorter, side you may notice that it actually helps bring the weaker side up. This is assuming you have a lateral peyronie’s curvature.

So you take a risk when you inject, but if you believe the injections work to increase penis size, then using them to correct a peyronie’s curvature is not a big leap in logic.

Well, lets see.. I don’t think its only about an uneven look, its about scarring, pain and erectile disfunction. I will try to look for the studies but mind you, I have read them a few years ago.

What I understood after all that research is basically this: All kinds of constant injections will lead to higher chances of penile scarring and developing of Peyronie’s disease. Genetics predispositions, wrong technic, injuries can also help it, but it seems that using papaverine alone, or in a mix (bi, tri or quad mix) will increase the chances even more. Also, about doctor Adams procedures, I believe he uses Trimix not because of it safety, but rather because it hurts A HELL LOT LESS than PGE1.

A little background:

I don’t even remember when I came to this forum, but it was at least 6 years ago. I fall in love with the idea of a bigger dick, since mine is thin and all.. Then I bought a book here (can’t remember the name of the author anymore, but it was actually endorsed by the board and all), AND tried the 90 days routine. Well, It seems I am one of the unluck ones, since even doing everything by the book, I injuried myself and got peyronies. Since then, I studied the hell out of the internet, and discarded any type of PE that involves Jelqs. So my focus is on ChemPe, pumps and maybe, clamping (on the VERY SAFE side of it).

I myself, believe that PGE1 by itself is way safer in right conditions, then papaverine will ever be, and also, that the pain of it is a not welcome, but necessary thing. By the way, I know how bad it hurts cause I have done 3 ultrasounds with it to assert my Peyronies, and boy, does it prickles!

So iv been doing research for over a year about chemical PE but never had the money to buy the supplements, if anybody wants to chat on the subject hit me up

So can DHT be bought or what? You don’t have to put in a site on here or anything, just let me know if legit DHT gel can be bought at all so I don’t keep searching

Anything can be bought. Here’s the problem: there’s no such thing as money for gains.

Time and time again, people attempt to use DHT gel to grow. I’ve read dozens of anecdotal reports - none have gained using DHT alone. However, many have inadvertently caused HPTA suppression and suffered the consequences.

At best, DHT may help potentiate gains for someone who has a solid PE routine already. At worst, it will do nothing except drain your bank account and shut down your own natural testosterone production.

Considering your first post here is asking if DHT gel can be purchased, I suggest you reevaluate your strategy. Just my $0.02.

Money 4 gains is just a member name so take it easy. What I had in mind for the DHT was not in the way you might think. The application can be timed properly and I’m well aware of the consequences. We have a 10 person study at the clinic involving intense PE, acoustic arteriole break-up, pendulum hanging, bathmate, TRT, HGH, and a conveniently timed P-shot with DHT after 6 months. If you can’t help than just say so. This could be a very effective study. And worth a shot to test, and all of us here at the clinic agree. For future posts I would drop the “I’m on a need penis help forum for longer so I’m better” act and just be all ears for the aid or failure of this study come april 2019. Either way, like I said, it’s worth the effort.

If your working for clinic and peddling you need a commercial account

Well gents, it looks as if the perfect combo for a supplement stack would be Trimix, DHT, HGH/MK-677, and something for the pain such as kratom. (additionally some BPC mixed with the trimix may help)

I wouldn’t screw around with DHT it will suppress your HPTA and give you limp dick among many other problems.

What do you base this on?

Is taking PABA oral still recommended in folks’ routines? From everything I’ve seen here, it seems like the ideal moderate routine would be PGE1 before bed every 3 days, with PABA oral and manual stretches daily.

Maybe daily Viagra, just because I’ve heard that daily use can increase EQ.