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The Chemical PE Thread

DomXZ, my understanding of how BPC157 works is best if injected into specific site. If I do chest I will inject into the pecs themselves, spitting the dose between the two,10 units in each twice a day for a total of 40 units comes of to roughly 350mcg. If I inject legs I stay close to the knees. It can be injected into fat or intramuscular. Avoid tendons.

Apparently its impact is systemic just takes a while, can even be taken orally. Local injection will speed up the process around the site.

I don’t inject into tendons. SubQ is fine for me, not crippled by pain or something.

Peptideweathouse carries pge1

That’s in the US, it’s illegal to import in most EU countries (If not all)

Just set up a PO Box in the US have it sent there and then have it forwarded to your address. Just a thought

Originally Posted by Bigmig1028
Just set up a PO Box in the US have it sent there and then have it forwarded to your address. Just a thought

That’s not a bad idea but I’d still run into a similar problem. Even if I declared the value and content to be different then it is, there’s a good chance it’ll be checked.

Tons of good info in this thread.

I’m staying away from injecting directly into the penis. At this point in my PE career, the risk of fibrosis is not worth the potential gain.

However, I’m very interested in the possibility of certain supplements and chemicals to aid a solid manual PE routine.

I’m currently taking the following (either orally, topically, or sub-q):

MK-677
BPC-157
TB-500
Proviron
11-keto DHT

DHEA
Progesterone
Pregnenolone

Zinc
Creatine
L-Citrulline Malate
ALCAR
LCLT
Taurine
Glycine
Na-R-ALA
Vitamins A, D, E, & K
Selenium
Magnesium
Theanine
B-Complex

DMSO
nascent iodine
POTABA


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Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

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That’s an impressive list Lifestyle. Have you thought about l-carnitine and l-arginine topical dissolved in DMSO?

What does the 11-keto DHT do? I’m well familiar with AAS, and have used other DHT derivatives anavar, proviron and masteron.

Originally Posted by tankmanbob
That’s an impressive list Lifestyle. Have you thought about l-carnitine and l-arginine topical dissolved in DMSO?

What does the 11-keto DHT do? I’m well familiar with AAS, and have used other DHT derivatives anavar, proviron and masteron.

Thanks tankmanbob. I haven’t considered l-arginine dissolved in DMSO. I currently take ALCAR and LCLT (acetyl l-carnitine and l-carnitine-l-tartrate) orally. I plan to mix the LCLT into DMSO in order to increase androgen receptor density:

Androgenic responses to resistance exercise: effects of feeding and L-carnitine.

I’ll probably stop with the POTABA in DMSO and start taking it orally, but I have to do a bit more research first.

11-keto DHT is as potent as DHT but has a much longer half life. I take 50mg/day Proviron orally and apply 2mg/day 11-keto DHT directly to the shaft.

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What is known is that 11-keto DHT has a much longer half-life than DHT and as such has the potential to exert androgenic activity even with very sporadic administration (2-3 times a week) as opposed to the daily administration needed with steroids like T and DHT. The half-life of 11-keto DHT appears to be on the order of 36 hours.

We have since shown that 11KDHT is as potent as DHT, previously considered to be most potent natural androgen

11KDHT is a full AR agonist exhibiting similar activity to DHT at 1nM

The data clearly shows that 11KT and 11KDHT are potent and efficacious androgens, comparable to T and DHT. Most importantly, the findings highlight the fact that not only can 11KT and 11KDHT activate the androgen axis, and in so doing drive cell growth, but that these steroids have the potential to remain active for longer than T and DHT due to a reduced rate of metabolism.

While DHT was completely metabolised after 48 hours, 21% of the 11KDHT remained detectable after 72 hours.


11-keto DHT - Adrenosterone Derivative For Lab/R&D Use | Ray Peat Forum


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Originally Posted by lifestyle
Thanks tankmanbob. I haven’t considered l-arginine dissolved in DMSO. I currently take ALCAR and LCLT (acetyl l-carnitine and l-carnitine-l-tartrate) orally. I plan to mix the LCLT into DMSO in order to increase androgen receptor density:

Androgenic responses to resistance exercise: effects of feeding and L-carnitine.

I’ll probably stop with the POTABA in DMSO and start taking it orally, but I have to do a bit more research first.

11-keto DHT is as potent as DHT but has a much longer half life. I take 50mg/day Proviron orally and apply 2mg/day 11-keto DHT directly to the shaft.

11-keto DHT - Adrenosterone Derivative For Lab/R&D Use | Ray Peat Forum

Would you mind pm me a good source for your dht?

Originally Posted by lifestyle
I’ll probably stop with the POTABA in DMSO and start taking it orally, but I have to do a bit more research first.

If you’re not faint of heart, you could look into DMSO mixed with PABA/POTABA inserted into the urethra through pipette.

Read a few stories of good success in using it as a support for PE.

Originally Posted by lifestyle
Tons of good info in this thread.

I’m staying away from injecting directly into the penis. At this point in my PE career, the risk of fibrosis is not worth the potential gain.

However, I’m very interested in the possibility of certain supplements and chemicals to aid a solid manual PE routine.

I’m currently taking the following (either orally, topically, or sub-q):

MK-677
BPC-157
TB-500
Proviron
11-keto DHT

DHEA
Progesterone
Pregnenolone

Zinc
Creatine
L-Citrulline Malate
ALCAR
LCLT
Taurine
Glycine
Na-R-ALA
Vitamins A, D, E, & K
Selenium
Magnesium
Theanine
B-Complex

DMSO
nascent iodine
POTABA


my friend how long you take these supplements and have you seen any growth ,do you have any side effects ?

Originally Posted by Eimai_Trelos
my friend how long you take these supplements and have you seen any growth ,do you have any side effects ?

I’ve been taking them for various durations - from months to years.

I’m no longer taking MK-677. I’m using ipamorelin and mod-grf instead.

The only negative side effect I have from anything I’m taking is a bit of increased water retention. Aside from that, better sleep, faster recovery, better mood, and sense of wellbeing.

I have no idea if these are contributing to gains. I have no control to reference. I’m pretty happy with my gains, but I don’t know what I would have gained without these supplements.

Either way, I would be taking most of these for reasons other than PE.


Start 11/30/17: 6” BPEL, 4.25" MSEG - My Progress Report

Latest 1/29/20: 7" BPEL, 4.75" MSEG - My Progress Photos

“I have a vision. I have disposable income and time. I will reach my goals. It is inevitable. I will not stop otherwise.” - TG

Can PGE-1 and BP157 be reconstituted with 100% DMSO and injected? Or do you have to dilute the DMSO with bac water or something else?

I’ve been searching for 2 days for straight answers and can’t really find a good/simple guide on recon. If you can point me to a link or know the answer, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks

PGE-1 with DMSO is great. I don’t know if that would work with BPC-157, which I’ve only seen reconstituted with bacteriostatic water.


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