Originally Posted by DomXZ
As far as peptides are concerned; TB500, BPC 157 and GHK-Cu improved collagen synthesis. PGE1 is meant to delink, so I can’t help but think it’s somewhat counterproductive. At least, while you’re still trying to gain. Perhaps after sufficient gains have been made they’re useful for flaccid growth. But that’s just throwing around ideas.Proviron is interesting, the benefits to libido may be worth considering using it. I’ve had my eyes on it for a while, if not for the other benefits.
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And if I recall correctly; the original protocol called for a potentiator. If Proviron isn’t sufficient or useful then testosterone suspension would be an option. No idea how much one for need for injection into the CC, let alone the results.
You bring up a great point about collagen synthesis. This is something I have thought about quite a bit lately. It’s entirely possible that in an attempt to potentiate gains, I’m simply making my dick much stronger and harder to stretch in the process.
However, collagen is a very complex topic. I don’t think collagen synthesis itself is bad. Collagen alignment in the direction in which force is applied, collagen thickening, collagen cross-linking are certainly counterproductive for PE. Scar tissue formation and fibrosis should be avoided at all costs as well. Here’s a great thread on collagen: Collagen Considered
My understanding is that we want to break down collagen in order to stretch the tunica for length and/or girth, then synthesis more collagen to create more tissue and add permanent length and/or girth - but only by lengthening collagen fibers/fibrils, not thickening or increasing cross-linking.
To accomplish this goal, I have used a number of peptides and supplements that may contribute to growth (GHRH/GHRP, MK-677, BPC-157, TB-500, GHK-Cu, etc) as well as a number of supplements to help continue breaking down collagen and preventing cross linking and fibrosis (DMSO, POTABA, ALCAR, L-Carnosine, etc).
All of that said, I’m beginning to think that the risk of using supplements that may dramatically increase collagen synthesis may outweigh the benefits. I’m taking a number of these supplements for overall health benefits, not just PE. However, I may have to reconsider their use and/or timing. For starters, today I dropped my morning dose of GHRH/GHRP. I’m also planning to experiment with PGE-1 in DMSO to see if I can get any of the collagen unlinking benefits.
As for the proviron or other androgens, I don’t think they directly cause growth for PE purposes. However, I believe androgens have a number of other benefits and may help support gains.