The Chemical PE Thread

Already tried their EU distributor, no luck.

I thought they are a Czech company and that people have had good experiences just going through their direct sales contacts on the website. You can even just ring them up. Did you try that first?

Does anyone know if the “Verapamil cream” is just the pdlabs gel product, or does he custom make his own that has some superior ingredients in it (e.g., DMSO for better delivery)? Any info anyone might have on how we could reproduce the cream that Adams uses would be greatly appreciated.

I haven’t, went straight through their EU/NL sales rep. I’ll try the other route.

The most recent report I could find mentions that it’s still just some manual stretching, the PGE1/Trimix, and the Verapamil cream. He’s able to prescribe those 2 compounds because there’s some ambiguity that allows him to classify the whole thing as ED treatment, but there’s not really any loopholes for the hormonal side of the protocol, unfortunately. I’m surprised that he hasn’t sought out some people that may be able to benefit from that kind of thing, though. There’s bound to be a few candidates, and it would certainly prove, at least partially, the power of his full protocol. I digress…

I searched around, and couldn’t actually find out what the transdermal element is in the PDLabs product. I know there’s a few different recipes for transdermal carriers, and that they’re mostly the same, though. I do also recall hearing that Adam’s Verapamil gel has DMSO in it, though. I’ll try to find the post that mentions this, if at all possible.

It’s unfortunate that Verapamil isn’t easy available, since it’s benefits seem perfect for PE. There was some talk on here a while ago about possible being able to filter the binders out of the pills and be left with just the Verapamil itself, but it seemed like a tedious and imperfect method. Really, the best way would involve a person acquiring the compound in bulk (probably via a foreign lab, I suppose) and making their own gel. Maybe an entrepreneurial “supplement” vendor will see this post and whip something up, haha.

From my understanding, Verapamil alters the regeneration (?) of Collagen. It breaks down the old, excessive Collagen, so that new amounts can form, and everything remains at a normal level - thus, allowing your Collagen to “keep up” with your gains, rather than simply building up and preventing them. Seems like a novel, worthwhile thing to supplement any PE routine with.

Thanks so much for your responses to my questions. Since I wrote that I’ve become skeptical that superficial application of Verapamil can really have significant effect. The fact that Dr. Adams prescribes it is very encouraging, however everything else I find seems to be discouraging. I’ll try to look up the reasons I found earlier if you’re interested. But basically I think I saw a couple studies showing it didn’t do anything and also if you look at peoples’ experiences with Verapamil gel in treating Peyronies the reports are pretty underwhelming (in contrast to injections, for example).

Having done other forms PE before, however, where I seemed to stall out quickly and then not gain no matter what I did, I do think it’s very important to do what you can to avoid tunica toughening. I almost feel like doing that is The Key to getting significant results in the long run. I wonder now more how realistic it might be for me to think of trying to get my hands on injectable verapamil and Relaxin. At least the latter, if it’s the case that verapil injections would be too localized.

Hoping this thread starts picking up more. It’s a big loss that all the big posters from the past seem to be offline these days.

I truly believe injecting yourself with bpc 157 into your stomach while using an all-day stretcher and pumping at night would accelerate gains. And maybe couple that with some pt-141 at night for an erection that would last all night. Just my 2 cents

Tried Cayman Pharma with no success, for those looking for PGE1/Alprostadil.

You mean you wrote them and they never responded, or they told you they don’t sell it directly to consumers, or what? It’s really annoying how hard it is to get Alprostadil.

Don’t sell directly to consumers.

Then I wonder how doubleweener and a couple other guys here got it from them. It’s a big loss that none of the big contributors to this thread are around anymore.

Is there anyone using peptides BPC157 and TB500 to help speed up recovery in PE? I know what they do and I’m currently using them by injecting into fat pad above penis.

I take a 5mg Bottle of BPC157 and put in 3ml of bacteriostatic water in. I inject twice a day at the .20 mark. Which comes out to roughly 350mcg daily.

I take a Bottle 5mg bottle of TB500 and put 1ml of bacteriostatic water in. I inject once a week.

I’ve been using now for a little more than 2 weeks.

I’m using that same concoction bpc 157 and tb500. Today is going to be my first day with an ADS and then some good pumps and stretches at the evening followed injecting right above the fat bad. What source do you like for your RC? The timing of injection is my biggest concern at the moment

I’m in the USA and use purchasepeptides. Net
They have awesome deals through codes sent in emails, I load up when 40 to 55% off. I’m not new to peptides or steroid use.

At the moment 400mg of Test C weekly split into 2 injections 20 weeks.

400mg of Tren E weekly split into 2 injections 20 weeks

800mg of EQ weekly spit into 2 injections 20 weeks.

As for the peptide BPC157 I take 20 units upon waking up 5 to 6am and 20 units before my hanging sessions around 8 to 9pm. I may increase to 30 units on both injections next week.

If your peptides are good you’ll notice improvement by weeks end. How long do you plan on using the compounds? You can use 5mg of TB500 once a week for life so to speak. As for BPC157 8 weeks on followed by 2 weeks off.

Started with BPC157 yesterday. 200mcg to start with, see what the results are. If it helps PE; great. But i’m mainly using it so support my lifting.